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New postal policies that are slowing delivery may affect 2020 mail in v****g ....Union leader says
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Aug 1, 2020 23:35:54   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Isn't that what you conservatives want...to fuk up the v**e any way you can?


No sir, we do not. As you well know.
Conservatives want a fair debate on the subjects and an honest e******n.

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Aug 1, 2020 23:42:34   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
It's what conservatives have who are deranged enough to defend Trump no matter what he does...


With all due lack of respect, the last couple of posts are utter nonsense. Do you really believe that the President replaced the entire administration of the post office, including the head of it, so that they could implement his nefarious plan to slow down the delivery of mail, all for the purpose of having an excuse to speak out against v**e-by-mail???
And you consider yourself logical and intellegent?????

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Aug 1, 2020 23:43:56   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
With all due lack of respect, the last couple of posts are utter nonsense. Do you really believe that the President replaced the entire administration of the post office, including the head of it, so that they could implement his nefarious plan to slow down the delivery of mail, all for the purpose of having an excuse to speak out against v**e-by-mail???
And you consider yourself logical and intellegent?????


Sorry friend, I did not mean that last remark....I meant to say "And you consider that logical and intellegent???
My apologies.

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Aug 1, 2020 23:54:13   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
marinevet73 wrote:
trump not only has the power and the reason to slow down the post office, but he is actually doing it. trump has replaced all of the board of directors (not their actual title) of the postal system with his own appointees. All previous presidents only appointed replacements as they came up. trump replaced them all. Plus he put one of his personal s**tbirds as the head.

Also, the postal act required the Post Office to put 5 billion into it's pension fund each year until it is fully funded. No business does this. Go read a financial statement for any commercial business and read the footnote on unfunded liabilities. Most businesses only cover their current liability. That is why the Post Office is going broke, and always losing money. Trump is trying to destroy the integrity of the Post Office.
trump not only has the power and the reason to slo... (show quote)


I know that it's a hard concept, but EVERYTHING isn't Trump's fault. The United States Postal Service has been having major problems for many decades. Partially it's Congresses fault, and partially it's a problem with it being a monopoly. The union has not helped it much, either.

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Aug 2, 2020 00:21:52   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
marinevet73 wrote:
trump not only has the power and the reason to slow down the post office, but he is actually doing it. trump has replaced all of the board of directors (not their actual title) of the postal system with his own appointees. All previous presidents only appointed replacements as they came up. trump replaced them all. Plus he put one of his personal s**tbirds as the head.

Also, the postal act required the Post Office to put 5 billion into it's pension fund each year until it is fully funded. No business does this. Go read a financial statement for any commercial business and read the footnote on unfunded liabilities. Most businesses only cover their current liability. That is why the Post Office is going broke, and always losing money. Trump is trying to destroy the integrity of the Post Office.
trump not only has the power and the reason to slo... (show quote)



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Aug 2, 2020 00:25:51   #
marinevet73
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I know that it's a hard concept, but EVERYTHING isn't Trump's fault. The United States Postal Service has been having major problems for many decades. Partially it's Congresses fault, and partially it's a problem with it being a monopoly. The union has not helped it much, either.


I agree100% with what you said. Compound it with the problem that congress has mandated that the Post Office must be able to deliver mail to every person in the US, no matter how much it costs, all at a nationally stated price.

trump did change 100% of the governing body of the Post Office. I think he did it so that he could create problems for Jeff Bezos initially and will try to ruin it further so he can say it can't be used for v**e by mail.

I personally drop my v**e by mail b****t at the County Courthouse. I receive a email when my b****t is received and one when it is counted.

Regarding the Post Office, its problems started about a decade ago when Congress passed the last Postal Act. Prior to that they were normally pretty efficient with only minor problems.

Almost all of the major problems today are either trumps fault, or are exacerbated by trump. His management style is chaos.

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Aug 2, 2020 00:26:13   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I know that it's a hard concept, but EVERYTHING isn't Trump's fault. The United States Postal Service has been having major problems for many decades. Partially it's Congresses fault, and partially it's a problem with it being a monopoly. The union has not helped it much, either.


Excellent post , RandyBrian !!! Our mailman been coming late for maIL for years!! Way before Trump became President!!

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Aug 2, 2020 04:36:34   #
PeterS
 
RandyBrian wrote:
No sir, we do not. As you well know.
Conservatives want a fair debate on the subjects and an honest e******n.

They do? Then why is Trump screwing with the mail is an effort to slow it down? What's honest about that? According to Trump, we have a p******c so dangerous that we have to think about delaying the v**e yes not serious enough that our children need to stay home from school.

So what is it? Do we need to delay the v**e because of the seriousness of the p******c or is the p******c so mild that our children can go to school without fear? My wife is a teacher and she would really like to know...

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Aug 2, 2020 05:00:08   #
PeterS
 
RandyBrian wrote:
With all due lack of respect, the last couple of posts are utter nonsense. Do you really believe that the President replaced the entire administration of the post office, including the head of it, so that they could implement his nefarious plan to slow down the delivery of mail, all for the purpose of having an excuse to speak out against v**e-by-mail???
And you consider yourself logical and intellegent?????

He didn't replace an entire administration. He replaced one person who then implemented a system that slowed down our current mail load by one day and would collapse it under a load of millions of b****ts being mailed. And why else would you replace the head of the post office at this late stage by a complete crony with ZERO experience in mail and delivery systems? (Read the article)

Yes, I consider myself logical and intelligent and we have a president who, rails against v**e by mail because he claims it would be raft with v***r f***d--even though he gave zero proof that it would--only to then come with this scheme in case v**e-by-mail managed to pass. Right now we have 6 states that are going to allow v**e my mail lead by Colorado which has had v**e by mail for years without any problems with v***r f***d.

All that need be done is for the remainder of states to emulate what Colorado has done and this could have gone off without a hitch--save for the fact that Trump has done everything in his power to slow things down and fuk things up.

And Trump doesn't need an excuse to speak out about anything. He does so even though he generally is telling a lie which is what he was doing when talking about v**e-by-mail...

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Aug 2, 2020 05:16:12   #
PeterS
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I know that it's a hard concept, but EVERYTHING isn't Trump's fault. The United States Postal Service has been having major problems for many decades. Partially it's Congresses fault, and partially it's a problem with it being a monopoly. The union has not helped it much, either.

It isn't a monopoly--there are probably a dozen carriers out there with the largest of them unionized. So if unions are a problem with the post office then they would be a problem with UPS and others too wouldn't they? So are they?

And this is Trump's fault because he's the one who hired Louis DeJoy and put him in charge in June where the first thing he does is to implement a system to slow the delivery of mail down. So if that's not Donald Trump's fault than who's fault is it?

It's like I said, TDS goes both ways. When your head is so far up Trump's ass that you will defend him no matter what he does then you have Trump Derangement Syndrom. If Trump was worried about the Post Office he's had over three years to address it. So when he waits until June of 2020 to do anything, with V**e-by-Mail a hot button issue, thereby making the reliability of the postal service critical, well, if you didn't have TDS then you would be able to see that he was deliberately trying to slow the mail down...

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Aug 2, 2020 05:46:40   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
Excellent post , RandyBrian !!! Our mailman been coming late for maIL for years!! Way before Trump became President!!

Nearly 6,190 USPS employees, deemed essential workers, have tested positive for C****-**, and more than 60 have died. Add to that nearly 40,000 workers have had to quarantine for two weeks after exposure to the v***s, and then ask if more overtime isn't to be expected for mail carrier during a p******c?

Have you read any of the articles written about this PR? Did you even read the article that you posted to start this thread? Making the mail carriers the fall guy for Trump's use of the Post Office to eliminate the possibility of v**e-by-mail is about as petty as you can get. The post office is run on a shoestring and deemed essential during a p******c so what is it that you are expecting from them? How is it beneficial to add procedures that can only slow, and delay, our mail further at this point in time?

And I know you and your fellow cons will walk through a sea of C***D to cast your b****t but it's up to our government to 1) ensure our v**e and 2) eliminate any unnecessary danger to us when casting out b****ts. So if you want to avoid health problems why shouldn't it be the same?

In every state, if you have health problems you can v**e by mail. If you are a citizen and out of the country you can v**e by mail. Trump and his fellow politicians are allowed to v**e by mail. Our military is given the opportunity to v**e by mail. This is a lot of people who have been allowed to v**e by mail and have done so without any kind of fraud. So why would we expect it now simply because Trump is on the b****t?

Trump is one of the most unpopular presidents in our history. So v****g him out of office is going to be a simple thing to do with no need for v***r f***d...

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Aug 2, 2020 07:33:17   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
They do? Then why is Trump screwing with the mail is an effort to slow it down?...

Gee Pete, I thought you weren't a conspiracy theorist?

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Aug 2, 2020 09:31:45   #
Lonewolf
 
PeterS wrote:
It isn't a monopoly--there are probably a dozen carriers out there with the largest of them unionized. So if unions are a problem with the post office then they would be a problem with UPS and others too wouldn't they? So are they?

And this is Trump's fault because he's the one who hired Louis DeJoy and put him in charge in June where the first thing he does is to implement a system to slow the delivery of mail down. So if that's not Donald Trump's fault than who's fault is it?

It's like I said, TDS goes both ways. When your head is so far up Trump's ass that you will defend him no matter what he does then you have Trump Derangement Syndrom. If Trump was worried about the Post Office he's had over three years to address it. So when he waits until June of 2020 to do anything, with V**e-by-Mail a hot button issue, thereby making the reliability of the postal service critical, well, if you didn't have TDS then you would be able to see that he was deliberately trying to slow the mail down...
It isn't a monopoly--there are probably a dozen ca... (show quote)



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Aug 2, 2020 09:35:59   #
Lonewolf
 
Trump picked Betsy devious to destroy our school system why not the post office.
He wants to hurt Amazon by raising their rates vengeance is mine says trump.

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Aug 2, 2020 09:51:34   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
It isn't a monopoly--there are probably a dozen carriers out there with the largest of them unionized. So if unions are a problem with the post office then they would be a problem with UPS and others too wouldn't they? So are they?

And this is Trump's fault because he's the one who hired Louis DeJoy and put him in charge in June where the first thing he does is to implement a system to slow the delivery of mail down. So if that's not Donald Trump's fault than who's fault is it?

It's like I said, TDS goes both ways. When your head is so far up Trump's ass that you will defend him no matter what he does then you have Trump Derangement Syndrom. If Trump was worried about the Post Office he's had over three years to address it. So when he waits until June of 2020 to do anything, with V**e-by-Mail a hot button issue, thereby making the reliability of the postal service critical, well, if you didn't have TDS then you would be able to see that he was deliberately trying to slow the mail down...
It isn't a monopoly--there are probably a dozen ca... (show quote)


You are incorrect again. We are talking about delivering mail....not packages. Congress has always and is continuing to refuse any competition the right to deliver mail, making the USPS a monopoly.

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