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Can we REALLY trust all the statistics coming out about C***d?
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Jul 14, 2020 15:05:00   #
woodguru
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statistics...we can NO LONGER trust polls! Why do you think we can trust all these statistics coming out about the wuflu???

Dr. Birk early on was the one who alerted us to the fact that they were definitely inflating the numbers of deaths & how they were doing it! We've all heard the stories of inflated numbers that the CDC and MSM were putting out! So, why do we believe them? Should we?? The American people are much too GULLIBLE,we tend to believe anything we see in print or hear on the media as T***H! It is a rich tradition that died a long time ago! 50 years ago or more! Many of us still DO NOT see it!

Political polls have not been trustworthy for probably 20 years or so, it would seem that anyone would realize that after the crooked Hillary polls in 2016! Polls today are constructed so as to SHAPE the e*****rate, not MEASURE IT! Our politicians are suppose to govern according to the wishes of their e*****rate and polls were designed to help them gauge that...but they have been so distorted now as to be practically useless as an actual tool of honest measure! The numbers presented in almost ANY poll are only meant to convince the public of which way for them to make up their minds!!

They are not our statistics, but everyone should know by now that the Chinese have NEVER been honest with their reporting on this v***s, they are a country of over 8 BILLION people, yet their C***d numbers are reported as lower than ours, a country of only 344 MILLON people! Something is very stinky there and it isn't Helsinki!
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Nothing like a serious dose of obfuscation, it's rather obvious to anyone doing any thinking that numbers are way under what is reported for many reasons...the first being that there are way fewer tests being done than need to be, which is proved out by very high positives among the tests that are being done. General testing is the needed proof to a degree that positives are well under 10%, not 20% and higher.

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Jul 14, 2020 15:19:06   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
woodguru wrote:
Nothing like a serious dose of obfuscation, it's rather obvious to anyone doing any thinking that numbers are way under what is reported for many reasons...the first being that there are way fewer tests being done than need to be, which is proved out by very high positives among the tests that are being done. General testing is the needed proof to a degree that positives are well under 10%, not 20% and higher.


They don't want info out. When did you last read a real number on the daily mortality rate in the US say for any day in the past 20 years? I'm sure you could find it but the point is they are damn sure not going to do it for you so you might find out what a s**m this thing stands to be.

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Jul 14, 2020 15:29:35   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
MStem wrote:
I was just discussing this with my husband. I really would like to have actual doctors and scientists on a news show, after being given a chance to prepare for a round table discussion on the topic.
Iā€™d like the infotainment people to simply be quiet and let the experts talk about the science involved, and what the numbers are really telling us about the progression and the true danger of the v***s.


I think your local health officials might do this rather than on a national level.

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Jul 14, 2020 15:30:19   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
JoyV wrote:
There is no way for anyone, including the experts, to know how many deaths have been from SARS CoV-2. All the deaths would have to be individually reevaluated and new death certificates issued which did NOT lump several causes into one. A Herculean task.


I suspect coroner's are able to so this easily.

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Jul 14, 2020 15:33:13   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Tug484 wrote:
They don't report everything.
You have to research things on your own.


Oh come on, how are you going to "research things"?

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Jul 14, 2020 15:59:41   #
Tug484
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Oh come on, how are you going to "research things"?


You look it up on the computer.
If you hear something, research it.

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Jul 14, 2020 16:14:18   #
MStem
 
JoyV wrote:
There is a national hospital database which each hospital must submit various documentation to. The entries are legal documentation, so falsifying data is a crime. When the news shows stories saying one thing, and the database reveals a contradiction with the media, or mayors, or governors; I will accept the database over them.

So no matter how many refrigerator units the media has portrayed as being brought in by the hospitals, most hospitals have far more empty beds than under normal circumstances, and more ICU beds available than usual. The norm is for a hospital to have the ICU at 95% or more in use. Now the average nationwide is 85% in use.
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A rational response. Thank you

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Jul 14, 2020 18:14:22   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Oh come on, how are you going to "research things"?



Just like I did the day it broke of NY deaths from "C****-**). Just simply Googled 'what is the death rate of NYC in one day?" Answer was 179 before anyone could inflate the numbers with phony s**m numbers.

No matter what, we have no way of knowing how many actually die from v***l infection. I suspect nobody knows and they sure as hell aren't talking. Just Google 'What was the national daily mortality on some date before the v***s hit?' I did the work. Go here: https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/25/mortality-in-the-united-states-past-present-and-future

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Jul 14, 2020 18:23:13   #
peg w
 
The problem with the statistics about C***d19 is that they are currently only guesses. They are eductsted guesses. For example, when C***d19 first hit America, the confirmed cases death rate was about 4%. Now we have better treatments, so the death rate is going down. We don't know what it is now becsuse there are people in hospitals and we don't know if they will survive or not. How about the amount of people who have perminent damage, like lung damage. This has been seen even in people who were asymmetric. We jus5 don't know.

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Jul 15, 2020 06:45:10   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statistics...we can NO LONGER trust polls! Why do you think we can trust all these statistics coming out about the wuflu???

Dr. Birk early on was the one who alerted us to the fact that they were definitely inflating the numbers of deaths & how they were doing it! We've all heard the stories of inflated numbers that the CDC and MSM were putting out! So, why do we believe them? Should we?? The American people are much too GULLIBLE,we tend to believe anything we see in print or hear on the media as T***H! It is a rich tradition that died a long time ago! 50 years ago or more! Many of us still DO NOT see it!

Political polls have not been trustworthy for probably 20 years or so, it would seem that anyone would realize that after the crooked Hillary polls in 2016! Polls today are constructed so as to SHAPE the e*****rate, not MEASURE IT! Our politicians are suppose to govern according to the wishes of their e*****rate and polls were designed to help them gauge that...but they have been so distorted now as to be practically useless as an actual tool of honest measure! The numbers presented in almost ANY poll are only meant to convince the public of which way for them to make up their minds!!

They are not our statistics, but everyone should know by now that the Chinese have NEVER been honest with their reporting on this v***s, they are a country of over 8 BILLION people, yet their C***d numbers are reported as lower than ours, a country of only 344 MILLON people! Something is very stinky there and it isn't Helsinki!
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statisti... (show quote)


So agree!

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Jul 15, 2020 06:45:41   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Forkbassman wrote:
This v***s is ALL ABOUT POLITICS: TAKING OUT TRUMP


Yep!

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Jul 15, 2020 06:49:37   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
debeda wrote:
My ex mother in law just got out of the hospital (4 days) because her wuflu exhibited pneumonia like symptoms. Shes on the mend. She's 97. Her 72 year old daughter also tested positive. She says it's like a case of bronchitis (she has chronic bronchitis). They live in Las Vegas. A local friend's husband (64) was supposed to go in for heart surgery Thursday the 1st. As part of pre op he was tested for C***d. He tested positive. So now instead of his needed surgery they are in quarantine until this Friday. No symptoms at all. Something is rotten in Denmark, my friend.
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