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Can we REALLY trust all the statistics coming out about C***d?
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Jul 13, 2020 14:10:17   #
MStem
 
I was just discussing this with my husband. I really would like to have actual doctors and scientists on a news show, after being given a chance to prepare for a round table discussion on the topic.
I’d like the infotainment people to simply be quiet and let the experts talk about the science involved, and what the numbers are really telling us about the progression and the true danger of the v***s.

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Jul 13, 2020 18:17:48   #
Rose42
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statistics...we can NO LONGER trust polls! Why do you think we can trust all these statistics coming out about the wuflu???

Dr. Birk early on was the one who alerted us to the fact that they were definitely inflating the numbers of deaths & how they were doing it! We've all heard the stories of inflated numbers that the CDC and MSM were putting out! So, why do we believe them? Should we?? The American people are much too GULLIBLE,we tend to believe anything we see in print or hear on the media as T***H! It is a rich tradition that died a long time ago! 50 years ago or more! Many of us still DO NOT see it!

Political polls have not been trustworthy for probably 20 years or so, it would seem that anyone would realize that after the crooked Hillary polls in 2016! Polls today are constructed so as to SHAPE the e*****rate, not MEASURE IT! Our politicians are suppose to govern according to the wishes of their e*****rate and polls were designed to help them gauge that...but they have been so distorted now as to be practically useless as an actual tool of honest measure! The numbers presented in almost ANY poll are only meant to convince the public of which way for them to make up their minds!!

They are not our statistics, but everyone should know by now that the Chinese have NEVER been honest with their reporting on this v***s, they are a country of over 8 BILLION people, yet their C***d numbers are reported as lower than ours, a country of only 344 MILLON people! Something is very stinky there and it isn't Helsinki!
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statisti... (show quote)


Control speech and you’ll control the people.

These ‘experts’ have been giving us conflicting information and the media isn’t doing its job. Why trust them at face value? That makes no sense.

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Jul 13, 2020 18:46:41   #
JoyV
 
MStem wrote:
I was just discussing this with my husband. I really would like to have actual doctors and scientists on a news show, after being given a chance to prepare for a round table discussion on the topic.
I’d like the infotainment people to simply be quiet and let the experts talk about the science involved, and what the numbers are really telling us about the progression and the true danger of the v***s.


There is no way for anyone, including the experts, to know how many deaths have been from SARS CoV-2. All the deaths would have to be individually reevaluated and new death certificates issued which did NOT lump several causes into one. A Herculean task.

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Jul 14, 2020 00:53:54   #
debeda
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statistics...we can NO LONGER trust polls! Why do you think we can trust all these statistics coming out about the wuflu???

Dr. Birk early on was the one who alerted us to the fact that they were definitely inflating the numbers of deaths & how they were doing it! We've all heard the stories of inflated numbers that the CDC and MSM were putting out! So, why do we believe them? Should we?? The American people are much too GULLIBLE,we tend to believe anything we see in print or hear on the media as T***H! It is a rich tradition that died a long time ago! 50 years ago or more! Many of us still DO NOT see it!

Political polls have not been trustworthy for probably 20 years or so, it would seem that anyone would realize that after the crooked Hillary polls in 2016! Polls today are constructed so as to SHAPE the e*****rate, not MEASURE IT! Our politicians are suppose to govern according to the wishes of their e*****rate and polls were designed to help them gauge that...but they have been so distorted now as to be practically useless as an actual tool of honest measure! The numbers presented in almost ANY poll are only meant to convince the public of which way for them to make up their minds!!

They are not our statistics, but everyone should know by now that the Chinese have NEVER been honest with their reporting on this v***s, they are a country of over 8 BILLION people, yet their C***d numbers are reported as lower than ours, a country of only 344 MILLON people! Something is very stinky there and it isn't Helsinki!
They always say you can prove ANYTHING by statisti... (show quote)


My ex mother in law just got out of the hospital (4 days) because her wuflu exhibited pneumonia like symptoms. Shes on the mend. She's 97. Her 72 year old daughter also tested positive. She says it's like a case of bronchitis (she has chronic bronchitis). They live in Las Vegas. A local friend's husband (64) was supposed to go in for heart surgery Thursday the 1st. As part of pre op he was tested for C***d. He tested positive. So now instead of his needed surgery they are in quarantine until this Friday. No symptoms at all. Something is rotten in Denmark, my friend.

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Jul 14, 2020 00:55:00   #
debeda
 
Forkbassman wrote:
This v***s is ALL ABOUT POLITICS: TAKING OUT TRUMP



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Jul 14, 2020 00:56:30   #
debeda
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
ANSWER: https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2020/07/10/new-refrigerated-containers-at-hillsborough-medical-examiner-bought-for-hurricanes-not-c****av***s/


TAMPA BAY TIMES — Drivers who pass by the Hillsborough Medical Examiner’s Office recently might have noticed a new — and potentially ominous — addition.

Six white refrigerated containers were delivered to the facility at 11025 N 46th St. late last month and now sit in a grassy area on the north side of the building. As c****av***s cases continue to rise in Florida, the timing raises questions: Are they expecting an influx of C****-** casualties, or maybe already seeing one?

In fact, the Hillsborough office decided to purchase the containers back in March as a contingency plan for hurricane season, said manager of operations Harrison Cowan.

The office wants to be ready if a big storm blows through the area and causes a sizable death count beyond the building’s 200-body capacity, he said. When the county got the chance back in March to buy the containers at a reduced price, Cowan decided to go for it.

“I’d rather do it up front than during a hurricane and having issues trying to get them there,” he said. “So when the possibility came up, I thought we might as well jump on these.”

Each of the 20-foot-long Conex containers has room for 20 bodies. They’re easier to access than wheeled trailers and more stable, especially if a big storm hits, Cowan said. The county purchased the containers in for $8,500 each; they were first delivered to the county’s public safety complex on East Columbus Drive, then moved to the Medical Examiner’s Office around June 19.

Peter, I don't watch CNN or MSNBS so I have NO idea what they may be saying, but it seems like the local newspaper might have vetted the story a bit more closely!!

All of the other stories shown on Google pertaining to refrigerated containers date back to March or early April, old stories, no longer valid! PLEASE PLEASE do your homework before posting!

It is so much fun to catch you in these lies, but it does make you seem untrustworthy!
ANSWER: https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2020/07... (show quote)


Sadly, he does see this crap on the "news"...

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Jul 14, 2020 00:57:48   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
There is a national hospital database which each hospital must submit various documentation to. The entries are legal documentation, so falsifying data is a crime. When the news shows stories saying one thing, and the database reveals a contradiction with the media, or mayors, or governors; I will accept the database over them.

So no matter how many refrigerator units the media has portrayed as being brought in by the hospitals, most hospitals have far more empty beds than under normal circumstances, and more ICU beds available than usual. The norm is for a hospital to have the ICU at 95% or more in use. Now the average nationwide is 85% in use.
There is a national hospital database which each h... (show quote)


Or less.....

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Jul 14, 2020 00:59:35   #
debeda
 
MStem wrote:
I was just discussing this with my husband. I really would like to have actual doctors and scientists on a news show, after being given a chance to prepare for a round table discussion on the topic.
I’d like the infotainment people to simply be quiet and let the experts talk about the science involved, and what the numbers are really telling us about the progression and the true danger of the v***s.


Yes, THAT would be refreshing. Unfortunately, when doctors on the front lines speak up, it generally doesn't fit the narrative so they're hushed up tout suite

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Jul 14, 2020 00:59:58   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Forkbassman wrote:
This v***s is ALL ABOUT POLITICS: TAKING OUT TRUMP


Not true

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Jul 14, 2020 01:01:45   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Tug484 wrote:
I agree. I think if you get k**led in a wreck, they write c***d.
I know they get a lot of money for saying patients have c***d.


And you know this because you've examined the bodies or the death certificates or even better, you have a friend with inside info? Don't you think Fox & Friends or Tucker would be all over this like white on rice if it was true?

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Jul 14, 2020 02:47:47   #
Tug484
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
And you know this because you've examined the bodies or the death certificates or even better, you have a friend with inside info? Don't you think Fox & Friends or Tucker would be all over this like white on rice if it was true?


They don't report everything.
You have to research things on your own.

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Jul 14, 2020 06:21:14   #
JoyV
 
debeda wrote:
My ex mother in law just got out of the hospital (4 days) because her wuflu exhibited pneumonia like symptoms. Shes on the mend. She's 97. Her 72 year old daughter also tested positive. She says it's like a case of bronchitis (she has chronic bronchitis). They live in Las Vegas. A local friend's husband (64) was supposed to go in for heart surgery Thursday the 1st. As part of pre op he was tested for C***d. He tested positive. So now instead of his needed surgery they are in quarantine until this Friday. No symptoms at all. Something is rotten in Denmark, my friend.
My ex mother in law just got out of the hospital (... (show quote)


A nurse friend of mine told me that much of the nursing staff in the hospital she worked in became concerned when starting a couple of weeks ago every patient began testing positive. There was not a single negative result for nearly two weeks. Then a swab test was accidentally sent out without the swab. It came back positive. The staff and a doctor sent out a dozen blank tests, and all came back positive, as well as swabbing a mango and a hamster which also both came back positive.

Does anyone know someone in the past week who had a negative test result?

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Jul 14, 2020 06:50:59   #
JoyV
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
And you know this because you've examined the bodies or the death certificates or even better, you have a friend with inside info? Don't you think Fox & Friends or Tucker would be all over this like white on rice if it was true?


I think the story of a car accident fatality victim being listed as a C***D death may have started because of the CDC explanation given out in March of how C***D deaths were to be determined. They have since changed and are including far more as C***D. But in any case I read on the CDC website in March a PDF outlining how to list C***D cause of deaths vs C***D contributing to death. Fatal vehicle accident victim testing positive was used as an example of the latter. But now there is no longer a space to put C***D as a contributing cause or a secondary cause. Either a death is a C***D death, which includes any testing positive or those testing negative but which had experienced at least on symptom associated with C***D.

{I still dislike that the CDC is using the name C***D which the WHO decided would be the official name instead of SARS CoV-2. C***D simply means c****a v***s disease. There are hundreds of c****a v***ses. The WHO stated the name SARS CoV-2 might result in a negative image for China due to the public knowledge that the SARS CoV-1 come out of China. They didn't mention that so did the current SARS CoV-2. Not only were both v***ses from China, but both were from W***n.}

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Jul 14, 2020 10:01:21   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
A nurse friend of mine told me that much of the nursing staff in the hospital she worked in became concerned when starting a couple of weeks ago every patient began testing positive. There was not a single negative result for nearly two weeks. Then a swab test was accidentally sent out without the swab. It came back positive. The staff and a doctor sent out a dozen blank tests, and all came back positive, as well as swabbing a mango and a hamster which also both came back positive.

Does anyone know someone in the past week who had a negative test result?
A nurse friend of mine told me that much of the nu... (show quote)


Sounds about right....

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Jul 14, 2020 15:01:01   #
the J man Loc: California
 
Forkbassman wrote:
This v***s is ALL ABOUT POLITICS: TAKING OUT TRUMP


Trump is making all about politics, he is taking himself out if you think about it. when he is v**ed out in November it will be by his own making.

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