jeff smith wrote:
as I asked wolf . what is a decent wage ? for a janitor , burger preparer , a waitress or any menial job ?
What is a decent price for gas?
Today we shipping boatloads of oil around the planet unable to dock and offload it because of lowest price in history.
It’s so low they would need to pay the receivers to take it.
When one person owns the entire refining operation from wells to distilleries to gas stations adding prices onto to it each time it’s moved.
Can’t lose situation.
One person owns it all.
Lonewolf wrote:
People are geting rich by modern day s***ery, by not paying their employees a decent wage
So then are we all s***es ?
Crayons wrote:
Miss Milosia's comments are those of a 'demo' shill...Not even worth a cup of yesterdays coffee and a cigarette butt
That's why I didn't reply to her. Mike
Milosia2 wrote:
$15.00 /hour????????
Once you figure in inflation and productivity gains the real minimum wage hovers around
$22.50 / hour.
If people like you are going to continue raising prices on EVERYTHING then what should you expect?
Eventually, there’s no good reason to work.
When , now knowing at the end When it’s time to collect on your hard work it will be stolen right out from under you in broad daylight with no consequences to the thieves.
$22.50=$180.00 per day=$900.00 per week=$ 3600.00 per month=$43200.00 per year. That's computed on an eight hour day, 5 day week, 4 week month and 12 month year. My wife and I live well on less than that. Our house and car are payed for with the exception of taxes and utilities.
Lonewolf wrote:
People are geting rich by modern day s***ery, by not paying their employees a decent wage
No. Many of the truly wealthy, got and stay that way by buying and selling futures and stocks, or buying and gutting companies that they never even ran.
“The richer you are, the more likely your riches come from stocks, not salary. For the three groups graphed above—1 percent, 0.1 percent, and 0.01 percent—capital gains account for 22, 33 and 42 percent (respectively) of their average income. At the very tippy-top of the economy, the 400 richest tax returns analyzed by the IRS take home about 50 percent of their income from capital gains.
Practically all the growth in average income at the top comes from stocks. Between 1992 and 2007, the average salary of a top-400 tax return doubled, but average capital gains haul increased 13X. Wages are for normal people. The richest get richer from their investments.“
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/the-rise-and-rise-and-rise-of-the-001-percent-in-america/283793/
son of witless wrote:
So then are we all s***es ?
Do you have credit cards???
They are nothing more than sophisticated s***ery.
When will you figure out Debt is not your friend.?
It’s the reason wages are stagnant. Who doesn’t want you to pay off your debts?????
The absolute one?
Big money.
the system is r****d against you.
When 7% of the GDP is debt where will the growth come from ?
All money printed is paying debt or interest on debt.
Manufacturing nothing.
Big money supply side economics.
Just collect money and hoard it.
Go ahead protect them and call good economic value and practice.
MStem wrote:
No. Many of the truly wealthy, got and stay that way by buying and selling futures and stocks, or buying and gutting companies that they never even ran.
“The richer you are, the more likely your riches come from stocks, not salary. For the three groups graphed above—1 percent, 0.1 percent, and 0.01 percent—capital gains account for 22, 33 and 42 percent (respectively) of their average income. At the very tippy-top of the economy, the 400 richest tax returns analyzed by the IRS take home about 50 percent of their income from capital gains.
Practically all the growth in average income at the top comes from stocks. Between 1992 and 2007, the average salary of a top-400 tax return doubled, but average capital gains haul increased 13X. Wages are for normal people. The richest get richer from their investments.“
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/the-rise-and-rise-and-rise-of-the-001-percent-in-america/283793/No. Many of the truly wealthy, got and stay that w... (
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Whose money are they getting rich from?
They go to bed millionaires and wake up Billionaires.
Slept through the whole process. No work at all.
Change a few laws and watch the money roll in.
Reaganomics
Trickle up theory.
No free markets, they aren’t good for wealth.
You might lose.
Milosia2 wrote:
Do you have credit cards???
They are nothing more than sophisticated s***ery.
I am a knuckle d**gging Republican Neanderthal. I have credit cards for emergencies and internet purchases, but I use CASH for 99.99% of what I buy. If I ain't got no cash, I go hungry, bow bow bow. Does that mean I can't be a victim ? Damn, now I cannot be a token White S***e.
Milosia2 wrote:
Do you have credit cards???
They are nothing more than sophisticated s***ery.
You really have an issue with s***ery credit cards are a CHOICE you don't have to use them therefore they do not ens***e. You want to fight s***ery fight the s***ery that exists today sex trafficking/they still sell people in India/CHINA/Arabic countries/ Africa grown healthy male 400 dollars. There is no s***ery in this country except in your head having a job is a choice having a credit card is a choice as long as you have a CHOICE to walk away there is no s***ery
Time and gravity gets us all.
bggamers wrote:
You really have an issue with s***ery credit cards are a CHOICE you don't have to use them therefore they do not ens***e. You want to fight s***ery fight the s***ery that exists today sex trafficking/they still sell people in India/CHINA/Arabic countries/ Africa grown healthy male 400 dollars. There is no s***ery in this country except in your head having a job is a choice having a credit card is a choice as long as you have a CHOICE to walk away there is no s***ery
Some people are addicted to credit cards. Some to drugs and booze. For me it is food.
Milosia2 wrote:
Whose money are they getting rich from?
They go to bed millionaires and wake up Billionaires.
Slept through the whole process. No work at all.
Change a few laws and watch the money roll in.
Reaganomics
Trickle up theory.
No free markets, they aren’t good for wealth.
You might lose.
In other words, these are people who either had vision or good ideas, worked hard, made themselves rich and invested wisely -- or perhaps their parent, grandparent or other descendant did, but somewhere along the line the initial fortune was earned, and whoever earned it then had every right to bequeath it to whomever they wished -- the point is, whoever currently has that fortune, if he or she has the money invested wisely and it's making money on its own, that's none of your business.
If there are loopholes in the tax system that allow write-offs and this person can afford a good CPA who knows how to find them, more power to them. Again, wh**ever this fortunate individual pays is between him/her and the IRS -- it's none of your damn business.
If you're jealous, then go make your own fortune.
Your ilk is always yelling about the rich paying their "fair share," yet it somehow seems to work out that "the rich," loopholes, deductions, write-offs and all, pay something like 90% of all income tax collected.
It must be miserable to spend your life, or wh**ever you call it, steeped in jealousy and forever minding other people's business.
You wouldn't be related to Gladys Kravitz, by any chance?
son of witless wrote:
Some people are addicted to credit cards. Some to drugs and booze. For me it is food.
BUT it is a choice one can break the the chains that bind THAT IS A CHOICE
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