jeff smith

what is a decent wage wolf ?

jeff smith

as I asked wolf . what is a decent wage ? for a janitor , burger preparer , a waitress or any menial job ?

bggamers Loc: georgia

There is a big difference and I'm not buying the s***ery BS if you don't like your job YOU can quit if you want more money further your education don't tell me you cant I did worked double shifts on the weekends and went to school Mon/Fri did that when I was 40 got tired of me and my kid's barely sliding by. The big difference between s***ery and today's job market CHOICE and you can walk away. Most people choose to be a victim that is a s***ery of sorts but its chosen if your poor single with children there are lots of programs to help right now they are offering retraining programs through the government if one does not choose to move up with more education that's a choice there for your not a victim. When I went to school I was making 2000 below poverty level government paid for my schooling 100% even though I worked it paid for uniforms every 3 months got a check to help with gas if I had needed would have paid for child care. I know some women that have gone to school to be a teacher earned their masters and decided not to get a job at that time but continued on to get their bachelors degree these young women wanted to show their kid's education counts one was going to school while 2 of her kids were also in college I finely realized why they did it this way. My son explained it. If the government is paying once you graduate if u get a job in your chosen field you can't get any more government assistance but if u get your masters and go on to your bachelors they will.

jeff smith

another thing . why should I start a business to hopefully support me , my family and get a decent auto to drive and a nice place to live ? IF you think that it is wrong for me to do this ? then start your own business and give your money to whoever you want . pay out what ever your employees demand . but don't tell me I have to live in a way that I don't deserve . I start the business , it is my capital investment to begin with . it is another person that wants a job that comes by and applies . I let them know what I will pay and if things are good in 30 or 60 days they get a raise . after that it is based on merit . some will get a raise sooner than others . you work you get paid . if your a loafer , don't expect a raise , and a lot of the younger people I have seen at a job , well , I would not hire them . they expect to be paid just for showing up , do as little as possible and want that pay check on Friday . and so many want at least $15 an hour . well there are some that aren't worth that much . there are a lot that are . but to many that aren't .

Seth

Exactly.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

Miss Milosia's comments are those of a 'demo' shill...Not even worth a cup of yesterdays coffee and a cigarette butt

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

The very minute you start a business the government is there to help you get this business off the ground.
A worker expecting a decent wage has a whole different set of problems.
As in the bare minimum wage hadn’t been raised since oh uh 1970?
This was a because people like you think your labor should be free. Along with your own personal decision how much people should make per hour.
How much is rent, food, t***sportation , health insurance, at insurance,
gasoline, Nothing has gone down that the know about, everything only goes up.
So a worker today needs to work two or more of your jobs and if married his needs 2 or more jobs , because, why again????

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

What planet do you live on...I've never met anyone from the gubmint except
politicos wanting campaign contributions or fat inspectors wanting a payoff

Seth

The government is there to "help you" what?

Sure, local government is there to collect from you for permits and hit you with a variety of local regulations, then collect taxes while you're also paying overhead, utilities, insurance on your business and on your employees, rent unless you own the premises... And as we've seen lately, if your business is in a Democrat run city and there's r**ting, arson and l**ting, the local taxes you pay for police protection don't buy squat... Now there's the federal government, what do they do for you?

Income tax on you, income tax on your business, you have to match your employees' Social Security payroll deductions as well. And in many cases, still more regulation.

Now that we've cleared that up, you have to purchase your merchandise, the components or ingredients thereof depending on the nature of your business as well as cover all your merchandising and logistics, and then there's your employee compensation.

Meanwhile, the only person taking any risk is you, the person laying out all the money and probably incurring a lot of debt at the same time.

You obviously have never run a business, or you'd have at least some vague idea what the hell you're talking about, which you plainly don't.

So... It's not worth all that hassle, stress and risk to end up with barely what you'd earn working for someone else, is it?

This is why you pay your employees what you can afford to pay them, and why you don't pay those who just "show up" as much as you pay those more sk**led and harder working employees who are most instrumental in helping your business prosper.

From your posts, I'm actually wondering if you've ever even had a job as a means to supporting yourself, or if you're one of those parasites who s**m disability incomes for non-disabilities just to get a free ride off the back of the taxpayer.

You certainly don't seem to know anything about what most Americans who work for a living call "the real world."

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

I’ve already forgotten more about running a business than you’ll ever know.
I know until you start marking money you pay very little in taxes and may actually get money back for the first years. You can write off everything,
Housing ,insurance, telephone, heat , electric, Lunches , vehicles, boats included with your logo, tools, office equipment, and just about anything else you can think of.
Workers on the other hand are not treated as well.
This is where unions are beneficial to balance out the lopsided effect of business benefits.
There are decent employers out there but, you don’t sound like one of them.
Look at Bezos. Richest man in the world won’t pay a decent wage without a fight.
He could afford it but won’t. He flies the American F**g over Amazon but runs the inner workings like a soviet republic.
So, leave you’re rights as an American at the door before you go to work.
Why would you think that’s ok?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Why should the American F**g only represent Amazon or companies only?
It almost seems the people who do the most for this country ,
Get the least respect.
More fries?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

A thought just came to me,
Maybe we should all live in Mexico and sneak across the border for work?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

$15.00 /hour????????
Once you figure in inflation and productivity gains the real minimum wage hovers around
$22.50 / hour.
If people like you are going to continue raising prices on EVERYTHING then what should you expect?
Eventually, there’s no good reason to work.
When , now knowing at the end When it’s time to collect on your hard work it will be stolen right out from under you in broad daylight with no consequences to the thieves.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Work is for fools and Horses
And
Horses turn their asses to it.

Seth

Actually, when I have had employees, I paid them better than the marketplace averages -- but I also didn't tolerate laziness or undependability. The more asset value, the bigger the paycheck.

And I always enjoyed high morale and loyalty, which I view as a two-way street.

I doubt you have "forgotten" more than I ever knew, in fact with your posted POVs I can't even see you making it running a lemonade stand.