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Jul 5, 2020 22:04:33   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
800,000 in WWI alone. Your data is way off Bozo. Get a clue!!!!!

Nonsense, not that many Americans were k**led in either world war or the civil war. Who pumped you full of sh!t?

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Jul 5, 2020 22:10:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Kevyn wrote:
Nonsense, not that many Americans were k**led in either world war or the civil war. Who pumped you full of sh!t?


Casualties vs mortalities

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Jul 5, 2020 22:55:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
Nonsense, not that many Americans were k**led in either world war or the civil war. Who pumped you full of sh!t?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

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Jul 5, 2020 23:29:45   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Probably for the same reason the number of individuals who survive drug overdoses isn't covered...

Death sells...

In any case... Don't you find those numbers rather disturbing?
10:1 recovery rate...


What I find disturbing is doctors being compelled by hospital admins to write c***d as cause of death even when it's not even remotely related, just to pad their numbers so they get more federal aid or gov't aid.. i guess depending on which country you live in... God forbid, but If I was do die tomorrow of cancer related issues, they'd write it as c***d!.. of course I'd be dead and wouldn't care at that point...but I'm sure my family would wonder..

I'm not saying that the c***d isn't serious.. but I think there has been made more of it than is necessary and the Libtard media using scare tactics.. for a freakin rally, but it's all good to go out to protest and be an ASS Clown!!.. Noooo No spikes here *eye rolling sarcasm*..

Again, More people die of the flu every year..and we don't test everyone on the freakin planet for it, we didnt' for SARS 1, (C****-** being SARS 2) we didn't test everyone for H1N1..Or Swine flu.. we damn sure didn't shut down the country.. "pause" ..we didn't do lock downs and quarantines, and much like c***d **.. the flu and even some colds take out the most vulnerable among us... While sad.. death happens..

I also find it tragic, that with the exception of one GOP (RINO) state, ALL the states with the most issues, be it c***d ** or protests and r**ting and l**ting.. are all taking place in dem run states, who were already over budget from mismanaging their money and now are screaming for more federal aid.. Sadly, the people that reside in those states are going to reap the sorrows of their state gov't.. because even if they were to get more federal funding, I don't believe for one minute that that AID would actually GET to the People!..

Just my opinion!.. my county as of july 2: 2 active cases 9 recovered, 35 tests pending, and 1 death, that didn't happen here, the gentleman had been in the hospital in Reno, NV for something unrelated for 2 weeks before getting and expiring, due to c***d (Allegedly) .. he's counted bc he was from my county.

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Jul 6, 2020 01:32:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
EmilyD wrote:
The recovered number is way too low in your post.

Here are today's numbers for the United States:

Cases (All cases reported to date): 2,976,021

Deaths: 132,545

Recovered: 1,285,134

The difference (Cases minus deaths minus recovered) = 1,558,342 is how many people still have the illness and have not either died or recovered yet.

US population (according to Google): 328,200,000

People with C-19: 1,558,342

People who have not contracted C-19 as of today: 326,641,658

This number changes every half hour or so on the Worldometer. Here's the website: https://www.worldometers.info/c****av***s/country/us/

And here's what I just got:
The recovered number is way too low in your post. ... (show quote)


As of today, best sources show 11.5 million confirmed cases WORLD WIDE, 6.1 million have fully recovered. Just over a half million have died - that's 0.006% of the world population.

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Jul 6, 2020 02:54:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
As of today, best sources show 11.5 million confirmed cases WORLD WIDE, 6.1 million have fully recovered. Just over a half million have died - that's 0.006% of the world population.


So 0.15% of the world's population have so far been confirmed infected...

Just multiply the number of deaths by a factor of 666 (spooky number there) and that's the number of deaths we can expect from c***d if the entire population were to be infected...

540,000 x 666 = 360,000,000

360,000,000 deaths... Meh....

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Jul 6, 2020 06:17:33   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
PeterS wrote:
1,285,134 have recovered. What do you want to say about them? If a million people have heart attacks, do we talk about how many die or how many recover?

https://www.worldometers.info/c****av***s/country/us/


No one cares how many people catch the flu. They care about how many die. BTW, your stats are a bit off. They include those from NY and CA. These states include victims of gunshot wounds, stabbings and car wrecks as C***d deaths if they test positive. The bullet in the head, knife in the heart or head on collision had nothing to do with it.
Even with the artificially inflated numbers, the death rate has been trending downward since May 5th.

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Jul 6, 2020 08:09:52   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
proud republican wrote:
826,632 people recovered from C***d -19 so far !!! Why not ???

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/c****av***s-recovered


Have read an article that suggests people that have had C***D their immunity may last only about 30 days at which time they can be reinfected so until they know everyone needs to be careful also people after C***D are having problems with blood clots which is also a big problem

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Jul 6, 2020 09:03:01   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
proud republican wrote:
826,632 people recovered from C***d -19 so far !!! Why not ???

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/c****av***s-recovered


This C19 v***s is not as deadly as the 1918 flu was, but it still nothing to play with. I checked CDC data for flu fatalities from 2010 to 2017. The greatest number of deaths was 61,000 one year and the least was 12,000 but it averaged about 32,000 deaths per year. This C19 has k**led 130,000 so far and it's only early July. It seems to have no 'season.' One of my kids lives in Virginia and he told me of a nursing home with 84 old folks in it, where the v***s k**led forty of them! However, with good medical treatment it seems to have a mortality rate of only about 5 times what flu has. The majority of people will recover. Here in Vermont we've been pretty lucky. The governor took quick action, ordered a shutdown and controlled it pretty well. We are partly opened. I suggested to all three of our congressional delegation that the way to control this was to shut down completely. Right now we are only partly shut down. Banks are still charging interest and rents and other debts are still coming due. Folks can't get funds to pay these and they are desperate. I suggest a sort of bank holiday on steroids. Shut down everything and instead of sending out $1200, (not quite enough for a month's rent in many cases) send out ration stamps like the ones we used during WWII. When a v*****e is available and this problem is under control, merchants who have taken these stamps for essentials, should be reimbursed with dollars at a rate that I would leave to economists to figure out. Since our currency is only printed paper anyway, this might help keep faith in the dollar, as faith is about all that keeps it going. (Are you old enough to remember when it used to say on dollar bills "This certifies that there is, in the treasury of the United States, one dollar in silver, payable to the bearer on demand.") Anyway, from our House Rep, I got no reply at all, not even one of his form letters, from Pat Leahy's office I got one of those "Thank you for contacting the Senator" notes and from Sander's office I got a copy of his latest newsletter. Obviously nobody had read imy suggestion. Stay safe and healthy.

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Jul 6, 2020 09:05:01   #
EmilyD
 
bggamers wrote:
Have read an article that suggests people that have had C***D their immunity may last only about 30 days at which time they can be reinfected so until they know everyone needs to be careful also people after C***D are having problems with blood clots which is also a big problem

What article? I read an article that scientists have not proven the length of immunity after recovering one way or another. And they're not even sure how a v*****e will impact peoples' immunity after their recovery... https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/11/c****av***s-immunity-v*****e-development/

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Jul 6, 2020 09:05:25   #
DASHY
 
Larai wrote:
What I find disturbing is doctors being compelled by hospital admins to write c***d as cause of death even when it's not even remotely related, just to pad their numbers so they get more federal aid or gov't aid.. i guess depending on which country you live in... God forbid, but If I was do die tomorrow of cancer related issues, they'd write it as c***d!.. of course I'd be dead and wouldn't care at that point...but I'm sure my family would wonder..

I'm not saying that the c***d isn't serious.. but I think there has been made more of it than is necessary and the Libtard media using scare tactics.. for a freakin rally, but it's all good to go out to protest and be an ASS Clown!!.. Noooo No spikes here *eye rolling sarcasm*..

Again, More people die of the flu every year..and we don't test everyone on the freakin planet for it, we didnt' for SARS 1, (C****-** being SARS 2) we didn't test everyone for H1N1..Or Swine flu.. we damn sure didn't shut down the country.. "pause" ..we didn't do lock downs and quarantines, and much like c***d **.. the flu and even some colds take out the most vulnerable among us... While sad.. death happens..

I also find it tragic, that with the exception of one GOP (RINO) state, ALL the states with the most issues, be it c***d ** or protests and r**ting and l**ting.. are all taking place in dem run states, who were already over budget from mismanaging their money and now are screaming for more federal aid.. Sadly, the people that reside in those states are going to reap the sorrows of their state gov't.. because even if they were to get more federal funding, I don't believe for one minute that that AID would actually GET to the People!..

Just my opinion!.. my county as of july 2: 2 active cases 9 recovered, 35 tests pending, and 1 death, that didn't happen here, the gentleman had been in the hospital in Reno, NV for something unrelated for 2 weeks before getting and expiring, due to c***d (Allegedly) .. he's counted bc he was from my county.
What I find disturbing is doctors being compelled ... (show quote)


You may have missed this Breaking News: US sets new record for new c****av***s cases, surpassing 55,000 victims. GOP governors in Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia proudly report their states are leading the rest of the country in number of cases. These governors were eager to open their economies early and are now facing the possibility of running out of hospital beds to treat their sick C****-** victims. Do you think government aide will get to the people of these states?

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Jul 6, 2020 09:36:15   #
EmilyD
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
This C19 v***s is not as deadly as the 1918 flu was, but it still nothing to play with. I checked CDC data for flu fatalities from 2010 to 2017. The greatest number of deaths was 61,000 one year and the least was 12,000 but it averaged about 32,000 deaths per year. This C19 has k**led 130,000 so far and it's only early July. It seems to have no 'season.' One of my kids lives in Virginia and he told me of a nursing home with 84 old folks in it, where the v***s k**led forty of them! However, with good medical treatment it seems to have a mortality rate of only about 5 times what flu has. The majority of people will recover. Here in Vermont we've been pretty lucky. The governor took quick action, ordered a shutdown and controlled it pretty well. We are partly opened. I suggested to all three of our congressional delegation that the way to control this was to shut down completely. Right now we are only partly shut down. Banks are still charging interest and rents and other debts are still coming due. Folks can't get funds to pay these and they are desperate. I suggest a sort of bank holiday on steroids. Shut down everything and instead of sending out $1200, (not quite enough for a month's rent in many cases) send out ration stamps like the ones we used during WWII. When a v*****e is available and this problem is under control, merchants who have taken these stamps for essentials, should be reimbursed with dollars at a rate that I would leave to economists to figure out. Since our currency is only printed paper anyway, this might help keep faith in the dollar, as faith is about all that keeps it going. (Are you old enough to remember when it used to say on dollar bills "This certifies that there is, in the treasury of the United States, one dollar in silver, payable to the bearer on demand.") Anyway, from our House Rep, I got no reply at all, not even one of his form letters, from Pat Leahy's office I got one of those "Thank you for contacting the Senator" notes and from Sander's office I got a copy of his latest newsletter. Obviously nobody had read imy suggestion. Stay safe and healthy.
This C19 v***s is not as deadly as the 1918 flu wa... (show quote)


The jury is out on whether the number of C-19 deaths is accurate. It is unclear if patients present to hospitals with C-19 symptoms, but die of underlying conditions, such as heart attacks, or kidney failure or diabetes complications, were recorded as C-19 deaths when they should not have been.

Seasonal influenza death numbers have always been estimated because they are not required to be reported to the CDC. Therefore, those numbers are also inaccurate.

What is suspicious today is that the number of new cases is being reported as increasing, but the number of deaths continues to steadily decrease.

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Jul 6, 2020 09:44:47   #
EmilyD
 
DASHY wrote:
You may have missed this Breaking News: US sets new record for new c****av***s cases, surpassing 55,000 victims. GOP governors in Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia proudly report their states are leading the rest of the country in number of cases. These governors were eager to open their economies early and are now facing the possibility of running out of hospital beds to treat their sick C****-** victims. Do you think government aide will get to the people of these states?


Do you think testing might have an impact on those "new" cases? Do you know that if a person is tested more than once, EACH test is reported as a new case? Do you also realize that testing has increased about as much as the reported "new" cases?

Does it occur to you that the Democrats want to keep C-19 "alive" until the e******n, believing that Americans will think it's Trump that is causing the new cases and won't v**e for him? And hospitals love having "new" cases because they get more grant money for research from the government every time they report more cases. Filling beds with sick people and calling what they are sick with C-19 gets them that grant money.

I bet I could walk into a hospital tomorrow and pretend to be sniffling and sneezing, and they would admit me and call it C-19!

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Jul 6, 2020 09:51:48   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
EmilyD wrote:
Do you think testing might have an impact on those "new" cases? Do you know that if a person is tested more than once, EACH test is reported as a new case? Do you also realize that testing has increased about as much as the reported "new" cases?

Does it occur to you that the Democrats want to keep C-19 "alive" until the e******n, believing that Americans will think it's Trump that is causing the new cases and won't v**e for him? And hospitals love having "new" cases because they get more grant money for research from the government every time they report more cases. Filling beds with sick people and calling what they are sick with C-19 gets them that grant money.

I bet I could walk into a hospital tomorrow and pretend to be sniffling and sneezing, and they would admit me and call it C-19!
Do you think testing might have an impact on those... (show quote)


Or as our leader says, 'If you test more, you find more cases.' That's why he wants to stop or slow down testing. When I was in ADC, if we'd taken that attitude, we would have turned off our AN/FPS-3 any time we had a Soviet Bomber on the scope.

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Jul 6, 2020 09:57:37   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
EmilyD wrote:
What article? I read an article that scientists have not proven the length of immunity after recovering one way or another. And they're not even sure how a v*****e will impact peoples' immunity after their recovery... https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/11/c****av***s-immunity-v*****e-development/


I'm not real computer savvy I ask google questions such as (new information on how long immunity lasts after recovery from infection) my son shakes his head and just walks away smiling BUT I get my answers with multiple reports. The report and I said may only their noticing in china many that had the v***s are ending back in the hospital but because of issues with the testing their not sure. I know here nasal test says one thing throat swab another seems to me a blood test would be better. Also, China is saying they may have a v*****e like anyone in this country would touch it but our own labs say they are already testing a v*****e on people and hope to have one by end of the year. Of all things they are using a rabies v*****e for it to piggyback it on heck I didn't know people could get a rabies v*****e

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