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Jul 6, 2020 19:21:10   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Dori1947 wrote:
Good for you and your Christian communities for helping but you missed the whole point, as do many “Christians” who refuse to wear a mask. An atheist would not suggest “do unto others “
Im not Christian or an atheist but i am a lover of peace and good will towards others. Unlike the i***t at the Michigan capital when asked why he wasnt wearing a mask, as 98% of the other i***ts in the protest, his very intelligent answer was “Im Christian, i dont need to” WOW!! Since probably about 90% of Americans are Christians who are all those c***d cases in hospitals or the 130,000. dead ones? By the way, its a free country last i looked, so even an atheist can be intelligent, caring, and a good patriot who cares about his fellow man and his nation. Those are things that have nothing to do with religion.
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I have no idea why people tend to group everyone under the same umbrella I'm a Christian BUT I wear a mask WHY because of my health and age as u know younger people think they will live forever that's who is the cause of this spike all the protesters so I will stand up and tell u I am not an i***t please don't lump everyone in the same basket its really getting crowded due to there being so many DEPLORIBLES in here

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Jul 6, 2020 19:22:10   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
In fact, quite the opposite.

They went out and YELLED in some cases.

Science-schmience they say.

Yes, sad

And very un-Christ-like
Are you a disciple of Christ?

Do you know the difference between C***d the V***s and C***d the Ghost?

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Jul 6, 2020 20:33:34   #
Liberty Tree
 
peg w wrote:
Christians did not love their neighbor enough to wear a mask in public to spare them from a deadly disease. SAD!


You mean like your l*****t r**ting buddies.

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Jul 7, 2020 05:48:20   #
Big Kahuna
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you a disciple of Christ?

Do you know the difference between C***d the V***s and C***d the Ghost?


Well, Casper was the Friendly Ghost bacteria while C****-** is the Unfriendly Ghost v***s that no one can see but everyone can blame on every frightening thing that happens to any person nowadays. Casper was a bacteria ghost with a large body and couldn't pass through a persons face mask so therefore people could keep him at bay by wearing a mask. C***d on the other hand was a real skinny ghost v***s that could slip thru any mask and create havoc so a mask was useless. The demorat politicians loved C***d, the frightening but overrated ghost, because they could shutter businesses, while leaving a******n mills open, let Marxists r**t, l**t, burn and rape (the dem politicians encourage this behavior) while having church doors closed with singing to God banned(demorats h**e God, love Satan). C***d Ghost lives forever and will frighten us for the next 1000 years and k**l a lot of people and keep us locked up in our homes( similar to all marxist societies that live to wipe out 120 million people who h**e marxism and live to keep people in prisons) while Casper Ghost will live a normal lifespan of 70 years. I hope that answers your question.

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Jul 7, 2020 05:55:21   #
Big Kahuna
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You mean like your l*****t r**ting buddies.


I didn't see many face masks on those Heathen, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-liberty thugs but I did see clubs, hammers, saws, screwdrivers, long nails protruding from ball like objects, and refrigerators, t.v's, Nike shoes, designer purses and shoes and baby formula and diapers in their hands and in their duffle bags. I guess the thugs needed these objects to help build things for Habitat for Humanity and were changing their systemic r****t criminality in their dna. It was nice to see the Heathens actually build things up for once instead of destroying everything good and moral in our siciety.

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Jul 7, 2020 06:04:23   #
Big Kahuna
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Yes, no matter what the GREAT OBAMA said, we are a CHRISTIAN nation, always have been, always will be, in spite of Peter and his ilk.


Yes, ovommit said his islamic jihadists built our country. Those 5 muzzies must have been real go-getters and worked 24/7/365. They were hard working devils indeed. Since muzzies live to tear things down, ovommit was pitching us another one of his dastardly lies like he is pitching his f**e concept of s******c r****m is in W***e A******ns dna!! He won't tell us that systemic criminality is in every l*****ts dna starting with 2 of the biggest black r****ts, he and t****y Mooch Ovommit and people like Orca Winfrey, LaBonehead James, Steve curry, Samuel L(loser) Jackson, Sheila Jackass lee, Midget Spike Lee and thousands of other l*****t black r****ts and thugs who promote black supremecy.

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Jul 7, 2020 07:52:46   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
"C*******t propaganda?" What year is this? No wonder this country is collectively failing to deal with any of it's problems, it's always someone else's fault. So much for accountability

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Jul 7, 2020 09:46:38   #
SWMBO
 
John Meoff wrote:
I just turned 76 and have never witnessed anything like this; even in the 60s


I am a couple of years older than you and I have never seen this amount of orchestrated and well planned out beforehand "chaos" either. Glad we have few more years but h**e what we are leaving for "our boys" to deal with.

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Jul 8, 2020 12:45:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Well, Casper was the Friendly Ghost bacteria while C****-** is the Unfriendly Ghost v***s that no one can see but everyone can blame on every frightening thing that happens to any person nowadays. Casper was a bacteria ghost with a large body and couldn't pass through a persons face mask so therefore people could keep him at bay by wearing a mask. C***d on the other hand was a real skinny ghost v***s that could slip thru any mask and create havoc so a mask was useless. The demorat politicians loved C***d, the frightening but overrated ghost, because they could shutter businesses, while leaving a******n mills open, let Marxists r**t, l**t, burn and rape (the dem politicians encourage this behavior) while having church doors closed with singing to God banned(demorats h**e God, love Satan). C***d Ghost lives forever and will frighten us for the next 1000 years and k**l a lot of people and keep us locked up in our homes( similar to all marxist societies that live to wipe out 120 million people who h**e marxism and live to keep people in prisons) while Casper Ghost will live a normal lifespan of 70 years. I hope that answers your question.
Well, Casper was the Friendly Ghost bacteria while... (show quote)


Just keep in mind!
C*******t China created and spread C****-**. The Chinese v***s.
Democrats like to ignore their alignment with and protection of the Left/C*******ts.

V**e Republican to turn this mess around.

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Jul 8, 2020 12:55:25   #
promilitary
 
Been reading a book entitled “The K*****g School” by Brandon Webb and John David Mann. I recommend it. It’s a good read. But I have a few comments, and some questions. I know there are a lot of military men on this site but I am directing my questions and comments to the Marines. (Army and Navy are welcome to jump in). Understand, this is in no way meant to criticize or demean anyone wearing or who has worn the uniform. They are open and honest comments and questions.

This is trivial but……There is a line quoted on pp 44: “Anyone who gets up out of his rack to go use the bathroom…….” In my four years in the Army I never heard it called the bathroom……it was the latrine. Or the head for you Navy guys. Of course the book was copyrighted 2017 so that’s a few decades after my service. Still can’t imagine a Marine or any military calling it the bathroom.

It’s pretty commonly accepted that the Marines have prettier uniforms, they like to celebrate their birthday, and they brag a lot. I have had Marines readily concede this.

PP 45 of the book states that Marine basic training is longer than any other branch of the service; 13 weeks. On the Marine Site it refers to 70 training days in 12 weeks. What about the 13th week? And there are 84 days in 12 weeks. There are 14 days, two whole weeks, unaccounted for. We had 8 weeks of “basic” basic then 4 “bonus weeks” and they were ALL training days. Every damn one. Even Sundays.

The book refers to “steadily escalating humps…..2-mile humps, 4-mile humps, 7-miles humps, etc. We walked/marched everywhere we went.
Our first forced march was 20 miles.

The book: “Every Marine is a rifleman.”
The Army: “Every man is an infantryman”……you have to be a riflemanto be an infantryman.

PP 45/46: referring to the rifle range; Marines fired at 300 yards, standing rapid fire and kneeling rapid fire; then on to 400 yards, and then 500 yards….”something no other basic training would attempt.”
We not only attempted it, we HAD to qualify at 500 yards. Using the non-fancy but revered Garand M1 rifle.

Marines have to qualify as “marksman.” That is the lowest qualification rating and it was unacceptable in my time. We HAD to qualify as sharpshooters. Expert was a bonus. I never attained it.

I should point out that I’m one of the old guys. We still had the draft from WWII. Our training was still on a wartime footing. We still referred to the enemy as the Germans and the Japs. That’s Japs, not Japanese. Japs was a dirty word and we never dignified the race by calling them Japanese.

It was customary to either join right off, or a lot of guys waited till they got the big brown envelope in the mail from The Selective Service, didn’t open it, and went to volunteer. It’s the way it was back then. I turned 18 in November and joined the Army on the following January 5th. Smartest decision I ever made.

I liked soldering and I was good at it. I made sergeant at 19.
I don’t know if I’d made it to be a SEAL but I wish I’d had the chance to try. But SEALs was well after my time.

I KNOW I wouldn’t have been a good paratrooper. I’m one of those guys who never saw the need to go jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.

And KNOW that I have the highest respect for our fighting men today.
They are smarter and they are deadlier, and I sleep well at night knowing they are out there keeping the wolf from my door.

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Jul 8, 2020 22:00:37   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
promilitary wrote:
Been reading a book entitled “The K*****g School” by Brandon Webb and John David Mann. I recommend it. It’s a good read. But I have a few comments, and some questions. I know there are a lot of military men on this site but I am directing my questions and comments to the Marines. (Army and Navy are welcome to jump in). Understand, this is in no way meant to criticize or demean anyone wearing or who has worn the uniform. They are open and honest comments and questions.

This is trivial but……There is a line quoted on pp 44: “Anyone who gets up out of his rack to go use the bathroom…….” In my four years in the Army I never heard it called the bathroom……it was the latrine. Or the head for you Navy guys. Of course the book was copyrighted 2017 so that’s a few decades after my service. Still can’t imagine a Marine or any military calling it the bathroom.

It’s pretty commonly accepted that the Marines have prettier uniforms, they like to celebrate their birthday, and they brag a lot. I have had Marines readily concede this.

PP 45 of the book states that Marine basic training is longer than any other branch of the service; 13 weeks. On the Marine Site it refers to 70 training days in 12 weeks. What about the 13th week? And there are 84 days in 12 weeks. There are 14 days, two whole weeks, unaccounted for. We had 8 weeks of “basic” basic then 4 “bonus weeks” and they were ALL training days. Every damn one. Even Sundays.

The book refers to “steadily escalating humps…..2-mile humps, 4-mile humps, 7-miles humps, etc. We walked/marched everywhere we went.
Our first forced march was 20 miles.

The book: “Every Marine is a rifleman.”
The Army: “Every man is an infantryman”……you have to be a riflemanto be an infantryman.

PP 45/46: referring to the rifle range; Marines fired at 300 yards, standing rapid fire and kneeling rapid fire; then on to 400 yards, and then 500 yards….”something no other basic training would attempt.”
We not only attempted it, we HAD to qualify at 500 yards. Using the non-fancy but revered Garand M1 rifle.

Marines have to qualify as “marksman.” That is the lowest qualification rating and it was unacceptable in my time. We HAD to qualify as sharpshooters. Expert was a bonus. I never attained it.

I should point out that I’m one of the old guys. We still had the draft from WWII. Our training was still on a wartime footing. We still referred to the enemy as the Germans and the Japs. That’s Japs, not Japanese. Japs was a dirty word and we never dignified the race by calling them Japanese.

It was customary to either join right off, or a lot of guys waited till they got the big brown envelope in the mail from The Selective Service, didn’t open it, and went to volunteer. It’s the way it was back then. I turned 18 in November and joined the Army on the following January 5th. Smartest decision I ever made.

I liked soldering and I was good at it. I made sergeant at 19.
I don’t know if I’d made it to be a SEAL but I wish I’d had the chance to try. But SEALs was well after my time.

I KNOW I wouldn’t have been a good paratrooper. I’m one of those guys who never saw the need to go jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.

And KNOW that I have the highest respect for our fighting men today.
They are smarter and they are deadlier, and I sleep well at night knowing they are out there keeping the wolf from my door.
Been reading a book entitled “The K*****g School” ... (show quote)


Thank you for your service all good questions. But I have never been in service have no answers as a mother and wife of servicemen you're right about different language ex-husband -Marine,oldest son- Army, brother-Marine,cousin-Airforce makes me wonder is the book an autobiography written by the person who experienced these events or ghost writer OR fiction curious mind wants to know

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Jul 9, 2020 05:55:05   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Just keep in mind!
C*******t China created and spread C****-**. The Chinese v***s.
Democrats like to ignore their alignment with and protection of the Left/C*******ts.

V**e Republican to turn this mess around.


This happened under the Republicans' watch. They have no excuse. Democrats are unlikely to do much better, but since when are those our only 3 choices?

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Jul 9, 2020 10:11:36   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
J Anthony wrote:
This happened under the Republicans' watch. They have no excuse. Democrats are unlikely to do much better, but since when are those our only 3 choices?


What do political parties have to do with anything as for Dems doing better Pelosi was in china town encouraging people to go shopping accusing Trump of trying to cause a panic they condemned Trump for shutting travel from china they are standing arm and arm with china JUST to slap Trump for doing anything. I feel he has done well. Without any co-operation from the Democratic party, they are the party of h**e and r****m and do nothing for this country

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Jul 9, 2020 11:38:57   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
J Anthony wrote:
This happened under the Republicans' watch. They have no excuse. Democrats are unlikely to do much better, but since when are those our only 3 choices?


Anthony, you were corrected by someone that can read and watches TV!

"What do political parties have to do with anything as for Dems doing better Pelosi was in china town encouraging people to go shopping accusing Trump of trying to cause a panic they condemned Trump for shutting travel from china they are standing arm and arm with china JUST to slap Trump for doing anything. I feel he has done well. Without any co-operation from the Democratic party, they are the party of h**e and r****m and do nothing for this country." - bggamers

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Jul 9, 2020 11:51:51   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
Actually, the myth had been exposed long before this, but hey, I'll welcome anyone--even if they are playing catch up.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jaysondbradley/2020/05/how-a-plague-exposed-the-christian-nation-myth/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=share_bar&utm_campaign=share_bar_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1UYAxEUYRbGuWIJ5A8T19XzHqjpKPNZW7E9GxGIMK-H8uGlrrhZkYmu64

The evidence is in. The United States can finally abandon the pretense that it is a Christian nation. For most of us, this isn’t news. Since its inception, America has demonstrated many of the same strengths and character flaws as other colonial western nations.

But if C****-** has done anything, it’s revealed that the U.S. brand of Christianity doesn’t look anything like Jesus.

Take up your cross

There’s a point in the gospels when Jesus reveals he’s going to die. Peter promptly rebukes him. After all, Jesus can’t die. They’ve put all their hope in him as the Messiah and they expect him to deliver them from Roman oppression.

Jesus tells Peter to can it, but then follows it up with these words, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it” (Matt. 16:24–25).

Christians sum up Jesus’ words here with the phrase “dying to self.” They love the term and use it often. But for the most part, it’s a poetic abstraction, a form of spiritual idealism. It’s a difficult conviction to hold when your cultural ethos focuses on your individual right to pursue happiness.

In the Incarnation, Jesus laid aside his deity to identify with humanity (Philippians 2). And at Calvary, he laid down his human life to make reconciliation possible. In both actions—laying aside his deity and taking up his cross—he renounced his rights.

In a culture and economy that operates on consumption and acquisition, it’s difficult to convince Christians to renounce anything. In fact, quite often when American Christians are asked to give up something for the sake of others, it’s interpreted as persecution.

One doesn’t have to search hard for stories about churches who continued to meet against the recommendation of authorities, even when it put people at risk.

Don’t tread on me

Christianity in America is so entangled with patriotism and exceptionalism. When asked to shelter in place, Christians don’t think it’s odd to deck themselves out in G.I. Joe cosplay complete with AR-15s to storm a government building and demand their rights.

But at the same time, they’re unflinching in their support of authority being misused against others.

When an unarmed black man or woman is shot and k**led on camera, they instantly make excuses on behalf of authorities. That can look like trotting out an old mugshot to prove that person’s terrible character, or simply pointing out that they got themselves k**led by not being obedient enough.

But when asked to stay home, patriots have no problem grabbing their guns and defying orders. The mixture of Christianity and Americanism is a troubling tincture, enabling people to cite Romans 13 to get others to obey authority while they stock up weapons to fight off a potentially tyrannical government.

Any religion that demands that others take up their cross while we take up our sword is not Christianity.

Failing the mask test

It’s strange, but nothing reveals the rot at the center of American Christianity like the response people have had to wearing masks. It requires zero sacrifice to put a mask on—but that’s still too much of an ask for many Americans.
Mask wearing is really the perfect litmus test for self-denial. It’s something we do for others. My mask protects you, and your mask protects me. It’s not only a legitimate way to stop the spread of germs, but it also communicates our care for others.

So when a store like Costco or Trader Joe’s refuses to allow someone in without a mask, it’s to protect their employees (who aren’t getting paid what they deserve) and other shoppers. They’re asking people to take the health of others seriously. Because the choice not to wear a mask doesn’t communicate that you’re OK with getting sick; it communicates that you’re OK with getting others sick.

It’s such a low bar for denying one’s self. And yet, there are people all over the country who refuse this small act of solidarity. Their discomfort and inconvenience is too big of an ask.

Following Jesus requires sacrifice

Jesus asked us to take up our cross and follow him. Following him looks like self-sacrifice. He is our model and we are his followers insofar as we follow him.

I can imagine many American Christians reading this and saying, “Jesus chose to make a sacrifice. I’m being expected to. I should have the freedom to choose how to carry my cross.”

Let’s not forget that Jesus suffered the indignity of an unfair trial in a kangaroo court. The Sanhedrin was looking for any excuse to k**l him. His life was taken from him. His attitude of self-sacrifice was a pr********n for a final act of genuine sacrifice he was prepared to make–but it wasn’t like he walked into Pilate’s office, slammed three nails on the desk, and asked to be crucified.

He was ready for the ultimate sacrifice, but he didn’t want it. He prayed for God to spare him this fate (Matthew 26:38-40).

Following his example, every one of the disciples stoically endured horrible treatment from officials and their countrymen. But they had renounced the expectation to be treated fairly. They didn’t take up swords and demand their rights. They modeled themselves after their king.

American Christianity makes salvation a personal commodity. It’s something you acquire through invocation–say the right prayer and you’re in. It places certain social and moral expectations on us, but it doesn’t infringe upon our liberty. No one can place expectations upon us. It’s an insurance policy we purchase that allows us to pursue the American dream without fear of our eternal future.

We like to identify ourselves as a Christian nation, a city on a hill. But think about it a minute. What is it that separates America from every other nation on earth? We’ve become an epicenter for a disease that has k**led more than 80,000 of our fellow citizens. And we’re the only country that would rather go to war with our local government to protect our individual freedom than make sacrifices for the greater good.

It’s taken a p******c to see the gulf between historic Christianity and its American counterpart. All it took was an expectation of community responsibility to tear off the mask and reveal its true face.
Actually, the myth had been exposed long before th... (show quote)


*** C****av***s update***

According to the CDC and California Department of Health they are encouraging everyone to get tested asap!!! The US is taking the C****a V***s very seriously. New testing methods are being done without having to leave your house.

No hospital visit necessary!

All you have to do is mail a stool sample to:

Nancy Pelosi

1326 Longworth H.O.B.
Washington, DC 20125

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