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Jul 6, 2020 10:57:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JW wrote:
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this crap ( I'm not willing to have the site disable my ad blocking) but he really has no comprehension of Christianity or Americanism.

The USA is a Christian nation whether anyone likes it or not. The basic ethos of our government come straight out of Christianity. The fundamentals of social interaction are Christian. It's true that not everyone in the country is a Christian but the national behavioral demands woven into the overarching social fabric are Christian to the core.

The concept of repentance is a Christian concept. Out of that comes the idea of a lighter sentence if a criminal admits his guilt. Out of that comes parole, rehabilitation, and the willingness of society to readmit the offender. That is just one example of just how far-reaching and engrained in American society Christianity really is.

As to Americanism; we are the only nation on the planet that honors the concept of individual liberty to the point that assembling freely, arming and the joining together in front of our seats of government is even a possibility without a fire fight. The uniquely American aspect is the peaceful nature of the protest as mounted by those constrained by their Americanism. Those who brazenly smash, steal and destroy blindly are unfortunates lacking in American idealism. Our institutions of higher education are responsible for that failure.

There is no gulf between Christianity and Americanism and no response to a p******c can define either concept. Being a Christian nation is not about going to church or emulating Christ. It is about gut level social reflexes and intuitive decision-making and in that, Christianity and Americanism are inseparable... for now.
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this cr... (show quote)


"There is no gulf between Christianity and Americanism and no response to a p******c can define either concept. Being a Christian nation is not about going to church or emulating Christ. It is about gut level social reflexes and intuitive decision-making and in that, Christianity and Americanism are inseparable... for now." -JW

Well put, JW
You do not have to be a Christian to be an American; but Christianity and America can't be, and will not be separated.

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Jul 6, 2020 11:21:32   #
Big Kahuna
 
bggamers wrote:
I'll be 70 this coming Jan and have in all those years never seen anything like this and people pulling this country into the ground Obama started it and these ---- are carrying on his BS


So hard to believe that we have so many l*****t t*****rs in our country today.

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Jul 6, 2020 11:29:00   #
Seth
 
drlarrygino wrote:
So hard to believe that we have so many l*****t t*****rs in our country today.


Most of them are clueless fools who have no idea what they're trying to bring not only upon the rest of us, but themselves as well.

If they ever get their wish, they will be more miserable than most because on top of their lost liberty, they will have to live with the fact that they were stupid enough to help make it happen.

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Jul 6, 2020 14:45:51   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
JW wrote:
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this crap ( I'm not willing to have the site disable my ad blocking) but he really has no comprehension of Christianity or Americanism.

The USA is a Christian nation whether anyone likes it or not. The basic ethos of our government come straight out of Christianity. The fundamentals of social interaction are Christian. It's true that not everyone in the country is a Christian but the national behavioral demands woven into the overarching social fabric are Christian to the core.

The concept of repentance is a Christian concept. Out of that comes the idea of a lighter sentence if a criminal admits his guilt. Out of that comes parole, rehabilitation, and the willingness of society to readmit the offender. That is just one example of just how far-reaching and engrained in American society Christianity really is.

As to Americanism; we are the only nation on the planet that honors the concept of individual liberty to the point that assembling freely, arming and the joining together in front of our seats of government is even a possibility without a fire fight. The uniquely American aspect is the peaceful nature of the protest as mounted by those constrained by their Americanism. Those who brazenly smash, steal and destroy blindly are unfortunates lacking in American idealism. Our institutions of higher education are responsible for that failure.

There is no gulf between Christianity and Americanism and no response to a p******c can define either concept. Being a Christian nation is not about going to church or emulating Christ. It is about gut level social reflexes and intuitive decision-making and in that, Christianity and Americanism are inseparable... for now.
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this cr... (show quote)


Here we go again! It has been stated many times on this forum that we are a Christian nation. That is not a fact. The percentage of people professing to be Christians is down to 65% in the latest survey.
We were not founded as a Christian nation. If that were the case, then the First amendment to the Constitution wouldn't be there, and a state religion would have been established. Yes, we are currently a majority Christian nation, but only that. There is no state religion, which would have been the case if we were a confirmed Christian nation. The founders understood that there were too many sects with too many dissenting viewpoints (although professedly Christian) to allow a state religion to be established. In addition, they had just escaped the Anglican theocracy in England, with all the attendant flaws and repressions for those that did not agree with it.
As for Christian principles founding this nation, that is not particularly true either. The basic premises of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are universal among all religions, and most political administrations are founded on these basic social principles, regardless of their predominant religion.
Not k*****g, not stealing, not bonking your neighbor's wife, not lying are universal to all religions and governments. It's a basic social contract without which no society can exist. Many (if not most) of the founders were deists, not Christians, which accounts for the non-mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson even tried to rewrite the Bible to fit his views of the Almighty.
If you choose to believe that we are a "Christian" nation, you discount Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and a host of other denominations from being a part of our society. If this is what you intended, then I feel sorry for you and the tolerance for others that your religion professes to believe in is not present.

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Jul 6, 2020 14:58:18   #
promilitary
 
peg w wrote:
Christians did not love their neighbor enough to wear a mask in public to spare them from a deadly disease. SAD!



You have no basis for that statement.

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Jul 6, 2020 14:59:06   #
promilitary
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Im sad for all those who deny God. May your eyes be opened.



Oh they will be opened, make no mistake about that.

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Jul 6, 2020 16:33:45   #
Dori1947
 
Good for you and your Christian communities for helping but you missed the whole point, as do many “Christians” who refuse to wear a mask. An atheist would not suggest “do unto others “
Im not Christian or an atheist but i am a lover of peace and good will towards others. Unlike the i***t at the Michigan capital when asked why he wasnt wearing a mask, as 98% of the other i***ts in the protest, his very intelligent answer was “Im Christian, i dont need to” WOW!! Since probably about 90% of Americans are Christians who are all those c***d cases in hospitals or the 130,000. dead ones? By the way, its a free country last i looked, so even an atheist can be intelligent, caring, and a good patriot who cares about his fellow man and his nation. Those are things that have nothing to do with religion.

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Jul 6, 2020 16:48:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Dori1947 wrote:
Good for you and your Christian communities for helping but you missed the whole point, as do many “Christians” who refuse to wear a mask. An atheist would not suggest “do unto others “
Im not Christian or an atheist but i am a lover of peace and good will towards others. Unlike the i***t at the Michigan capital when asked why he wasnt wearing a mask, as 98% of the other i***ts in the protest, his very intelligent answer was “Im Christian, i dont need to” WOW!! Since probably about 90% of Americans are Christians who are all those c***d cases in hospitals or the 130,000. dead ones? By the way, its a free country last i looked, so even an atheist can be intelligent, caring, and a good patriot who cares about his fellow man and his nation. Those are things that have nothing to do with religion.
Good for you and your Christian communities for he... (show quote)



Who was this directed to.?

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Jul 6, 2020 17:19:42   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
peg w wrote:
Christians did not love their neighbor enough to wear a mask in public to spare them from a deadly disease. SAD!


In fact, quite the opposite.

They went out and YELLED in some cases.

Science-schmience they say.

Yes, sad

And very un-Christ-like

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Jul 6, 2020 17:23:57   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
rk wrote:
a little sacrifice by wearing a mask?
Wrong big sacrifice - sacrifice the health
of all humans on the planet rebreathing germs, rebreathing CO2, isolated indoors and living in fear. ..for a world wide s**m training humans to live under c*******m. Never before have healthy people been self quarantined
for a flu.
Not a Christian nation is valid our country has turned from God.
Maybe it is turning back - US troops
are only fighting overseas in one war,
Afghanistan fewest troops at war in the past half decade.
a little sacrifice by wearing a mask? br Wrong big... (show quote)


You are just plain wrong about wearing a mask.

Sorry, try again.

Oh, and thanks for mentioning Afghanistan. Drumph should be protecting EVERY AMERICAN SOLDIER. Not Putin

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Jul 6, 2020 18:14:39   #
Big Kahuna
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
You are just plain wrong about wearing a mask.

Sorry, try again.

Oh, and thanks for mentioning Afghanistan. Drumph should be protecting EVERY AMERICAN SOLDIER. Not Putin


Our demonic demorat mayors and governors refuse to protect their own citizens and you want to rag on Trump?? In fact the stupified demorat politicians want to defund the police to add to the unprotected citizens of their cities and states a greater measure of criminality foisted upon them by the demorat reprobates.

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Jul 6, 2020 18:28:46   #
Carol Kelly
 
JW wrote:
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this crap ( I'm not willing to have the site disable my ad blocking) but he really has no comprehension of Christianity or Americanism.

The USA is a Christian nation whether anyone likes it or not. The basic ethos of our government come straight out of Christianity. The fundamentals of social interaction are Christian. It's true that not everyone in the country is a Christian but the national behavioral demands woven into the overarching social fabric are Christian to the core.

The concept of repentance is a Christian concept. Out of that comes the idea of a lighter sentence if a criminal admits his guilt. Out of that comes parole, rehabilitation, and the willingness of society to readmit the offender. That is just one example of just how far-reaching and engrained in American society Christianity really is.

As to Americanism; we are the only nation on the planet that honors the concept of individual liberty to the point that assembling freely, arming and the joining together in front of our seats of government is even a possibility without a fire fight. The uniquely American aspect is the peaceful nature of the protest as mounted by those constrained by their Americanism. Those who brazenly smash, steal and destroy blindly are unfortunates lacking in American idealism. Our institutions of higher education are responsible for that failure.

There is no gulf between Christianity and Americanism and no response to a p******c can define either concept. Being a Christian nation is not about going to church or emulating Christ. It is about gut level social reflexes and intuitive decision-making and in that, Christianity and Americanism are inseparable... for now.
Pete, Pete, Pete... I don't know who wrote this cr... (show quote)


Yes, no matter what the GREAT OBAMA said, we are a CHRISTIAN nation, always have been, always will be, in spite of Peter and his ilk.

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Jul 6, 2020 18:41:55   #
gaconservative74
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh, come now, simply because I realize that CC's behavior is anything but Christian doesn't mean I h**e the religion. Anything but liberty tree, I believe Christ to be one of the world's greatest prophets. You CC's just mangled the meaning of what he tried to say...


That’s classic Pete. You deny God but say that Jesus was a great prophet? If He is not God as He said he was, then you are calling a liar and a fraud great. Is that how you see it, because that’s what you’re saying. But that would also be prophesied by Paul. The “wise” would become foolish and call good bad and bad good.

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Jul 6, 2020 18:52:30   #
John Meoff
 
bggamers wrote:
I'll be 70 this coming Jan and have in all those years never seen anything like this and people pulling this country into the ground Obama started it and these ---- are carrying on his BS



I just turned 76 and have never witnessed anything like this; even in the 60s

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Jul 6, 2020 19:16:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
drlarrygino wrote:
So hard to believe that we have so many l*****t t*****rs in our country today.


"So hard to believe that we have so many l*****t t*****rs in our country today." - drlarrygino

A lot can be attributed on our L*****t "educators"

Carl Marx knew what he was doing.

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