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Jul 15, 2014 11:38:54   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
What many from the Right fail to see is that the Left leaning people on this site are capable of clear thinking & have a clean picture of what is really going on.

I would say most here that lean to the left see that while they do not look to government for hand outs, they see that people who have more than they & those that have less get the hand outs.

It is a big pie out there & those with the most would not suffer if some of that pie went to those that have none.

Many of the us on the left are truly able to fend for our self.

We do not need to have special rules to get by.

We see that the answer to most of our problems stem from The widening gap between the haves & have not.

I have found that there are those that wish others not to think but to do what they say you should do.

Thinking is a sin for the followers of the Right.

Those that lead on the Right wish to do the thinking & their followers should not think but follow blindly.

I think that on this Forum it is quite plain that following blindly is the case.

My thinking is that doing what is best for those in the middle would lead to a smoother run world.

For the most part changes in what we say, do or think would
not need much change.

Call it what you want but those of us on this site can if we wanted find the common ground to set the pace for what is needed to have a better running system.

Many of us are past the age of being active in doing what is needed. But we can look for the answers to how we must get along to provide the solutions needed.

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Jul 15, 2014 11:57:01   #
grace scott
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
What many from the Right fail to see is that the Left leaning people on this site are capable of clear thinking & have a clean picture of what is really going on.

I would say most here that lean to the left see that while they do not look to government for hand outs, they see that people who have more than they & those that have less get the hand outs.

It is a big pie out there & those with the most would not suffer if some of that pie went to those that have none.

Many of the us on the left are truly able to fend for our self.

We do not need to have special rules to get by.

We see that the answer to most of our problems stem from The widening gap between the haves & have not.

I have found that there are those that wish others not to think but to do what they say you should do.

Thinking is a sin for the followers of the Right.

Those that lead on the Right wish to do the thinking & their followers should not think but follow blindly.

I think that on this Forum it is quite plain that following blindly is the case.

My thinking is that doing what is best for those in the middle would lead to a smoother run world.

For the most part changes in what we say, do or think would
not need much change.

Call it what you want but those of us on this site can if we wanted find the common ground to set the pace for what is needed to have a better running system.

Many of us are past the age of being active in doing what is needed. But we can look for the answers to how we must get along to provide the solutions needed.
What many from the Right fail to see is that the L... (show quote)





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Jul 15, 2014 11:58:45   #
robert66
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
What many from the Right fail to see is that the Left leaning people on this site are capable of clear thinking & have a clean picture of what is really going on.

I would say most here that lean to the left see that while they do not look to government for hand outs, they see that people who have more than they & those that have less get the hand outs.

It is a big pie out there & those with the most would not suffer if some of that pie went to those that have none.

Many of the us on the left are truly able to fend for our self.

We do not need to have special rules to get by.

We see that the answer to most of our problems stem from The widening gap between the haves & have not.

I have found that there are those that wish others not to think but to do what they say you should do.

Thinking is a sin for the followers of the Right.

Those that lead on the Right wish to do the thinking & their followers should not think but follow blindly.

I think that on this Forum it is quite plain that following blindly is the case.

My thinking is that doing what is best for those in the middle would lead to a smoother run world.

For the most part changes in what we say, do or think would
not need much change.

Call it what you want but those of us on this site can if we wanted find the common ground to set the pace for what is needed to have a better running system.

Many of us are past the age of being active in doing what is needed. But we can look for the answers to how we must get along to provide the solutions needed.
What many from the Right fail to see is that the L... (show quote)


I strongly support your views in this statement. There is little hope that you will get much more considering the extreme bias of most posters on this site. You're never past the age to try.

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Jul 15, 2014 14:07:17   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
The Left has their hand out for everything the Right can produce. They don't want to earn it, they want it given to them. What will they do when the Right ceases to produce or has nothing left to be taken from them?

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Jul 15, 2014 18:33:25   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
The Left has their hand out for everything the Right can produce. They don't want to earn it, they want it given to them. What will they do when the Right ceases to produce or has nothing left to be taken from them?


You can stick it you know where.

There is no one who knows me that could ever say that I have my hand out to take money from any one.

I have given value for what ever I have gotten.

It is time for old fools like you to look around & get the news that you are struck in the wrong rut when you attack many of us on the Left.

It is not us that are causing you the problems. Most of the problems are coming from those that you support so strongly.

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Jul 15, 2014 18:36:51   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
What many from the Right fail to see is that the Left leaning people on this site are capable of clear thinking & have a clean picture of what is really going on.
Some l*****ts on this site may have some degree of intelligence, and be capable of some thinking, but for the most part, in my opinion, the majority of the l*****ts here are simply parroting the l*****t web sites and l*****t media that they frequent, and have little or no grasp of what is going on.

Floyd Brown wrote:
I would say most here that lean to the left see that while they do not look to government for hand outs, they see that people who have more than they & those that have less get the hand outs.

It is a big pie out there & those with the most would not suffer if some of that pie went to those that have none.
The left, and the l*****t government they want, are like a predatory animal, in that some part is never enough. In the final phase, the socialist beliefs of the l*****t mind feel that all income (or as you say, the pie) must be completely regulated by the government. To what end? Nothing more, nothing less, than buying the v**es of those receiving welfare. The few that are truly needy are only the excuse to allow the government to control the pie.

Floyd Brown wrote:
Many of the us on the left are truly able to fend for our self.

We do not need to have special rules to get by.

We see that the answer to most of our problems stem from The widening gap between the haves & have not.
I agree that most of the left are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves, but most of the people who v**e for the left are the deadbeats wanting to have a good life with little or no work, by receiving welfare from those on the right. If you don't need special rules to get by, why do we have affirmative action, special quotas in college admissions, earned income credit, etc.? The widening gap you speak of is mostly caused by government welfare programs that are designed to keep minorities poor and v****g democrat, and some minority resistance to getting an education, instead of relying the democrat promised welfare to support them for life.

Floyd Brown wrote:
I have found that there are those that wish others not to think but to do what they say you should do.
Yes there are, and "they" are called elitist democrats.

Floyd Brown wrote:
Thinking is a sin for the followers of the Right.

Those that lead on the Right wish to do the thinking & their followers should not think but follow blindly.

I think that on this Forum it is quite plain that following blindly is the case.
That's probably more of the l*****t BS you've read. Obviously, you are out of things to say, but not tired of typing yet.

Floyd Brown wrote:
My thinking is that doing what is best for those in the middle would lead to a smoother run world.

For the most part changes in what we say, do or think would not need much change.

Call it what you want but those of us on this site can if we wanted find the common ground to set the pace for what is needed to have a better running system.

Many of us are past the age of being active in doing what is needed. But we can look for the answers to how we must get along to provide the solutions needed.
My thinking is that doing what is best for those i... (show quote)
The solution is smaller government, lower taxes, those who are truly needy being helped by churches, other charitable organizations, and in the case of those who need more help or slip through the cracks, help by the state governments. There should be no corporate taxes, but the federal government should receive, and operate solely on, personal income taxes. Everybody should pay some tax on received income. Most corporate and big farm subsidies and other government help to corporations should be stopped.

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Jul 15, 2014 18:48:19   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Trooper745 wrote:
The solution is smaller government, lower taxes, those who are truly needy being helped by churches, other charitable organizations, and in the case of those who need more help or slip through the cracks, help by the state governments. There should be no corporate taxes, but the federal government should receive, and operate solely on, personal income taxes. Everybody should pay some tax on received income. Most corporate and big farm subsidies and other government help to corporations should be stopped.
color=blue The solution is smaller government, lo... (show quote)


Well you are welcome to you views, But no matter what they are you are going down the tubes with the rest of us.It won't be because of me & my L*****t views but your short sighted support of those that are causing the problems.

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Jul 15, 2014 19:01:23   #
grace scott
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well you are welcome to you views, But no matter what they are you are going down the tubes with the rest of us.It won't be because of me & my L*****t views but your short sighted support of those that are causing the problems.






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Jul 15, 2014 19:54:16   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well you are welcome to you views, But no matter what they are you are going down the tubes with the rest of us.It won't be because of me & my L*****t views but your short sighted support of those that are causing the problems.


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Jul 15, 2014 19:54:41   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
grace scott wrote:
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Jul 15, 2014 20:28:05   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well you are welcome to you views, But no matter what they are you are going down the tubes with the rest of us.It won't be because of me & my L*****t views but your short sighted support of those that are causing the problems.


What? That's your idea of a response???

I don't support those causing the problems. I was very clear that I don't support the l*****t politicians that are presently screwing everything up by failing to cut the spending, or get the deadbeats off welfare, and flooding the country with i******s.

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Jul 16, 2014 10:51:32   #
passerby Loc: Texas
 
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Jul 16, 2014 10:52:32   #
passerby Loc: Texas
 
Trooper745 wrote:
The solution is smaller government, lower taxes, those who are truly needy being helped by churches, other charitable organizations, and in the case of those who need more help or slip through the cracks, help by the state governments. There should be no corporate taxes, but the federal government should receive, and operate solely on, personal income taxes. Everybody should pay some tax on received income. Most corporate and big farm subsidies and other government help to corporations should be stopped.
color=blue The solution is smaller government, lo... (show quote)


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Jul 16, 2014 13:59:47   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
What many from the Right fail to see is that the Left leaning people on this site are capable of clear thinking & have a clean picture of what is really going on.

I would say most here that lean to the left see that while they do not look to government for hand outs, they see that people who have more than they & those that have less get the hand outs.

It is a big pie out there & those with the most would not suffer if some of that pie went to those that have none.

Many of the us on the left are truly able to fend for our self.

We do not need to have special rules to get by.

We see that the answer to most of our problems stem from The widening gap between the haves & have not.

I have found that there are those that wish others not to think but to do what they say you should do.

Thinking is a sin for the followers of the Right.

Those that lead on the Right wish to do the thinking & their followers should not think but follow blindly.

I think that on this Forum it is quite plain that following blindly is the case.

My thinking is that doing what is best for those in the middle would lead to a smoother run world.

For the most part changes in what we say, do or think would
not need much change.

Call it what you want but those of us on this site can if we wanted find the common ground to set the pace for what is needed to have a better running system.

Many of us are past the age of being active in doing what is needed. But we can look for the answers to how we must get along to provide the solutions needed.
What many from the Right fail to see is that the L... (show quote)


very good post but...the right train, wrong track. you got your right and left confused.

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Jul 16, 2014 14:04:59   #
robert66
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
The Left has their hand out for everything the Right can produce. They don't want to earn it, they want it given to them. What will they do when the Right ceases to produce or has nothing left to be taken from them?


If you look at honestly attained statistics the percentage of conservative v**ers and liberal v**ers receiving government assistance is nearly equal with around 5% more on the liberal side. What do you collect? What have you collected? Has your hand been out too?

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