JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Nice try. A president can only commute someone found guilty of something. Stones just an old crazy conspiracy nut. A President can commute any sentence anytime I believe. The entire investigation into the Trump/ Russian collision was a h**x. Stone is no threat to anyone. I don’t care if his sentence was commuted or not. I did care when someone like Bergdahl and or Manning’s sentences were commuted. They were actual t*****rs.

son of witless

" To say you don't care about the why, is like saying you don't care what caused you to be sick, it's senseless...illogical, but expected from the Trumpers. "

That is as bad an analogy as I have heard in the last 5 seconds. Comparing a person being sick to r****rs and the reasons for both, makes zero sense to me. AmeriKa is full of various groups who have grievances about something. Maybe a group is protesting to save the whales, save those snails. Maybe they are protesting G****l W*****g. Maybe it is women's rights. Maybe it is plastic bags or plastic straws. It could be, God forbid W***e S*******y, or Black L***s M****r.

They all have the right to hold public demonstrations in AmeriKa. They all think that what ever they are protesting for is the most important thing at this second. For the rest of of us, not so much. Once they begin breaking the law, tearing down statues, burning down businesses, l**ting, burning, conquering parts of cities, and k*****g Police, I can't tell a Black L***s M****r Criminal from a N**i Skin Head.

That you can tell the difference, and now dare to tell me that because G****e F***d was k**led by one cop, then all of AmeriKa is subject to street Violence, I think your thinking is a tad fuzzy.

" But you align yourself who wheels his own law, and releases men who were Proven guilty on 7 counts, "

I assume you are speaking of the Roger Stone Affair. This is another topic altogether. The prosecution of Roger Stone was a political affair as is his commutation of sentence. Not very much different than Comey giving Hillary a pass instead of prison time for her E-Mail Crimes.

If you wish to go further on this unrelated topic, be prepared, because I will bring in every commutation and pardon that Bill Clinton and Barak Hussein Obama ever thought of doing. Unlike the way you enjoy mixing unrelated things together, my comparisons will have relevance.-----

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I h**e the Republican Party. They’re only half as stupid as the Democrat Party. You just throw crap against a wall and hope something sticks. We have more incarcerations for a number of reasons. One, we believe in Law and Order. Or used to. So now Bush had complete economic failure?It was called the sub prime mortgage meltdown and you can blame Bush but both parties were responsible. Don’t expect you to get it. Seems like you want to define what should be a jail-able offense. I will agree comparing wh**ever Stone did to the two I mentioned as no comparison. Stone didn’t cause anyone else to die.

Cuda2020

Nice try? What are you talking about? Stone WAS found guilty on seven counts and sentenced.

Russia, no h**x, that's for certain, except in the mind of Trumpers.

Manning at least served six years, Stone basically did nothing.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

The most serious charge on Stone was lying to the FBI. Fine, throw the book at him. If you do throw the same book at all the FBI higher ups caught lying about their part in a faux investigation. I look at the proof. No proof at all of any Russian/Collusion. Everyone with a brain knows that was BS. Manning should have gotten life. Once they figured out men or women’s prison.

Cuda2020

No just succeeded in help to corrupt our v****g system and having a usurper in the white house.

As far as Bush yes he was a complete failure and with the help of his party completely tanked our country, sub prime mortgages was only one of the issues but not the main, in my opinion, lets go to a tax cut to the wealthy while engaging in a ten year unfunded war, three big bail outs all of which could have been avoided and probably would have under Gore. Looks to me like you're the one not getting it. Manning by the way did lose a lot militarily/career speaking aside from actually going to jail in a man prison when she had already t***sitioned to womanhood. Very inappropriate and I think vindictive. Tell me, I'm curious do you think Epstein committed suicide? Or did some friends in prison help him along?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I believe Epstein was k**led. Just my opinion but a lot of things had to go wrong at once for him to k**l himself.

Cuda2020

Honestly, both bother me, Obama and Trump, not happy with either of those decisions. But I disagree on Trump and Russia, so many have been proven and gone down, Trump... this is the s**t he knows how to do, he's done it his entire life in business. Just like king pins they make sure nothing ever leads back to them. The testimonials were extremely credible, so I'll just disagree with you there. Putin owns Trump I have know doubts. I wish the Republicans had put Trump behind them and supported another contender.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Bush wasn’t a complete failure at all. Though I’m not a fan. The sub prime is what crashed the economy. I am against tax cuts without reduced govt. spending. All the intelligence agencies have stated that Russia wasn’t on either candidates side. Most of the money spent was spent after the e******n. They were trying to spread discord and it worked. So, he’s no usurper, childish and you’re smarter than that. I no longer support the Republican Party because of Bush’s prolonged wars. As far as Manning’s concerned he’s not a woman except in his screwed up brain. He’s a he biologically. By the way the U.S. taxpayer spent millions training Manning and then more so he could “t***sition”. I’m sure you’re O.K. with that.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Good. I think with Stones age and the p******c his sentence might have been a death sentence. Not sure what he did would justify that. I’m good either way.

Cuda2020

Why would you assume that? No, what we pay for is the exclusive insurance coverage the governmental elite get, that we pay for, meanwhile others go without health coverage. The elite can get all kinds of things done, that should come out of their own damn pocket.

I consider anyone a usurper when he got there by c***ting in any way, that includes unethical campaigning .

Cuda2020

Yes but I think under the conditions, Manning faced the same dangers.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Not really. Apples and oranges. Manning’s much younger and is (was) in better health.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I believe all govt employees should have the same health care I pay for and pensions for them should be things of the past. If 401K’s are good enough for the average workers, should be good enough for them. Plus it really gripes my a$$ that any politicians in Washington can own any securities. They write the rules and regs that govern Wall Street. They are the very definition of insiders.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

Stone requested a delay in reporting to the detention facility because they are experiencing a c***d outbreak and with his age and underlying health issues puts him in a high risk category for contracting and dying of the disease.
Trump did not pardon him, he merely commuted his sentence. State prisons and local jails have released thousands of prisoners, including those convicted of sex offences and violent crimes, because of fear of c***d outbreaks. Roger Stone still stands convicted until he wins on appeal and has the conviction overturned. This all depends on the courts and justice, not hatred for Trump and anyone associated with him.