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Jun 24, 2020 20:40:55   #
Navigator
 
Bebida wrote:
I UNDERSTAND all of that. I was asking Proud republican if SHE thought it was fair that all DACA Children should be allowed to stay, just because her Daughter in Law to be was a DACA person. Even though they were all here ILLEGALLY and WHY had she NOT applied for Citizenship. I KNOW what the LAW is, and really do not need it explained to me. And especially not by so many people!! But, THANK YOU ANYWAY!!


At the risk of incurring your wrath, I am pretty sure i*****l a***ns, even DACA i*****l a***ns, are not eligible to apply for US citizenship.

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Jun 25, 2020 10:16:01   #
Radiance3
 
Navigator wrote:
At the risk of incurring your wrath, I am pretty sure i*****l a***ns, even DACA i*****l a***ns, are not eligible to apply for US citizenship.

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The law must be consistent to all. No DACA, no illegal pregnant women coming to lay their eggs and claim citizenship. Then they'll complain, it's not the kids' fault, so they must be excused. Then all the kids family stay in the US.

Millions of i*****l a***ns cross the borders, baiting their kids and dumping them inside the US. Then US picks them up, feed them and care for them. Then those i******s come later and claim, that's their kids, and justify for them to join. Claim that it is not the kids's fault.

If we do all these chaotic life they brought here, we have no country left and the justice system is broken. Currently there are now more than 700,000 DACA's. They breed so many and pretty soon in millions more. DACA must go home, apply and wait for the process that all have done. That is the law with justice for all.

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Jun 25, 2020 10:20:07   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The law must be consistent to all. No DACA, no illegal pregnant women coming to lay their eggs and claim citizenship. Then they'll complain, it's not the kids' fault, so they must be excused. Then all the kids family stay in the US.

Millions of i*****l a***ns cross the borders, baiting their kids and dumping them inside the US. Then US picks them up, feed them and care for them. Then those i******s come later and claim, that's their kids, and justify for them to join. Claim that it is not the kids's fault.

If we do all these chaotic life they brought here, we have no country left and the justice system is broken. Currently there are now more than 700,000 DACA's. They breed so many and pretty soon in millions more. DACA must go home, apply and wait for the process that all have done. That is the law with justice for all.
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10,000 Kudos to you! That is JUSTICE for ALL UNITED STATES Citizens. Which does NOT mean we HAVE to ACCEPT Feeding and HOUSING all I******S that come here. AND if they come and CLAIM that is my child, we need to say HERE TAKE HIM HOME with you and LEAVE!!
They need to LEARN there is a RIGHT way to come here, and just crossing the border IS NOT IT!!!

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Jun 25, 2020 10:26:50   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
Navigator wrote:
At the risk of incurring your wrath, I am pretty sure i*****l a***ns, even DACA i*****l a***ns, are not eligible to apply for US citizenship.


Then, they should GO "HOME" and come in the RIGHT WAY!! DACA children would not be considered the CRIMINALS there Parents are, as long as they have never committed a crime. And I would THINK "THEY" would be allowed to apply!!

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Jun 29, 2020 01:39:42   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I know lots of Russians who are grandma's in their 40s


Canuckus deploracus,

I know lots of Chinese expats who are the PRC bots early in life, just to keep safe from an undue scrutiny.

Even marrying a well connected geisha, that's an ultimate trick.

Opening a "wechat" is a non starter, just keep calling me a "troll", that will unmask your role on the OPP.

There are a lot of friends of Canuckus here, who are ready to defend Canuckus, so you are safe, for now.

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Jun 29, 2020 01:56:25   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
newbear wrote:
Canuckus deploracus,

I know lots of Chinese expats who are the PRC bots early in life, just to keep safe from an undue scrutiny.

Even marrying a well connected geisha, that's an ultimate trick.

Opening a "wechat" is a non starter, just keep calling me a "troll", that will unmask your role on the OPP.

There are a lot of friends of Canuckus here, who are ready to defend Canuckus, so you are safe, for now.


Canuckus is a good guy. We don't always agree, but he doesn't resort to the name calling and insults and usually has a pretty good sense of humor. He also is well educated. Challenge him on facts or tell him his jokes are bad. I will defend any who need it, whether we share the same beliefs or not, from scurrilous personal attacks. As for attacks on their opinions or their facts, their on their own.

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Jun 29, 2020 02:04:32   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Abel wrote:
IMHO: Resident aliens??? There shouldn't be any. You're either a legal citizen or you're a visitor with a visa that expires! This half-assed policy of dual or multiple citizenships should be terminated.

Deep State Progressive Socialist Democrat FOG and CONFUSION (their Agitprop, Obstructionism, and Resistance) are the principal reasons for our immigration and most other political problems in the USA, and it's mostly due to their insatiable mentally disturbed fetish (their insanity) to conjure up (buy) enough v**es, legal or illegal, to take over this country by fouling the waters and swamping our e******ns with uneducated sheeple that will v**e democrat for freebies (the something for nothing freeloaders) and political distress financing by the likes of George Soros, Bill Gates, and about 110 more Billionaire elites who want to rule the world. Human greed is running amok!

Under the old common law the citizenship of a child, no matter where born, followed the citizen of the father, and that's what I think it should be now. However, one would be hard pressed in this day and age to even be able to locate the true father for an anchor baby or a welfare baby. Anchor babies should be strictly prohibited from obtaining citizenship status in the USA unless both the father and the mother are at least registered into the immigration program to become US citizens. Welfare support for bastard children should be limited to no more than one bastard as an incentive against having bastards to increase welfare income. President Trump really needs to get much busier on his southern border wall project!!!!

You're right about needing to have a national official language in this country. Your thoughts concerning a date certain to end DACA protections is a good one, and so are your ideas about ending chain migration. Legal migration is the only good way to approach this problem. I*****l m*****ts should not be tolerated.
IMHO: Resident aliens??? There shouldn't be any. Y... (show quote)


Abel,

the children born in the U.S.A. are not "bastards", the recent discovery of Chinese baby mills in the Queens, NYCity, and other places, places Chinese mothers who can afford it, in the late pregnancy on a flight to the US destinations.

They then give birth to a baby who is automatically an US citizen being born in the US territory.

Nothing to do with DACA, mind you, everything takes place in the "ajourdhui"- the present day.

If the Chinese can do it, then everyone can, with enough funds, no?

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Jun 29, 2020 02:40:13   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
newbear wrote:
Abel,

the children born in the U.S.A. are not "bastards", the recent discovery of Chinese baby mills in the Queens, NYCity, and other places, places Chinese mothers who can afford it, in the late pregnancy on a flight to the US destinations.

They then give birth to a baby who is automatically an US citizen being born in the US territory.

Nothing to do with DACA, mind you, everything takes place in the "ajourdhui"- the present day.

If the Chinese can do it, then everyone can, with enough funds, no?
Abel, br br the children born in the U.S.A. are n... (show quote)


That has nothing to to with being a resident alien. A resident alien is someone legally in the country not on a path to citizenship, i.e. someone here on a work visa. Congress has failed to act on the birthright citizenship and the Supreme Court has not ruled on it either. The best thing would be for Congress to pass an i*********n l*w establishing what situations qualify for the birthright citizenship. Currently the children of diplomats do not get citizenship even if they were born in the United States. That should be extended to any children born to foreign nationals in the United States. That would put an end to the problem of 'anchor babies' born to i*****l a***ns and the birth tourism used primarily by the Chinese.

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Jun 29, 2020 16:06:49   #
Abel
 
proud republican wrote:
Where is your state???


Missouri

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Jun 29, 2020 16:14:59   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Abel wrote:
Missouri


Ah yes, Misery. Show me that Misery loves company and I show you someone who is miserable and also wants everyone to be miserable. I keed! I have cousins in Missouri and I love it there. Except for St Louis.

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Jun 29, 2020 16:23:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kickaha wrote:
That has nothing to to with being a resident alien. A resident alien is someone legally in the country not on a path to citizenship, i.e. someone here on a work visa. Congress has failed to act on the birthright citizenship and the Supreme Court has not ruled on it either. The best thing would be for Congress to pass an i*********n l*w establishing what situations qualify for the birthright citizenship. Currently the children of diplomats do not get citizenship even if they were born in the United States. That should be extended to any children born to foreign nationals in the United States. That would put an end to the problem of 'anchor babies' born to i*****l a***ns and the birth tourism used primarily by the Chinese.
That has nothing to to with being a resident alien... (show quote)



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Jun 29, 2020 17:21:50   #
Abel
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Ah yes, Misery. Show me that Misery loves company and I show you someone who is miserable and also wants everyone to be miserable. I keed! I have cousins in Missouri and I love it there. Except for St Louis.
Ah yes, Misery. Show me that Misery loves company... (show quote)


Saint Louis is one hell of a place to be FROM, not there.

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Jun 29, 2020 17:33:38   #
Carol Kelly
 
Crayons wrote:
the problem with the majority of the DACA kids, is they are quickly indoctrinated by
border state demolitionists and introduced to the criminal cartel lifestyle


Too true.

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Jun 30, 2020 13:52:18   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
newbear wrote:
Abel,

the children born in the U.S.A. are not "bastards", the recent discovery of Chinese baby mills in the Queens, NYCity, and other places, places Chinese mothers who can afford it, in the late pregnancy on a flight to the US destinations.

They then give birth to a baby who is automatically an US citizen being born in the US territory.

Nothing to do with DACA, mind you, everything takes place in the "ajourdhui"- the present day.

If the Chinese can do it, then everyone can, with enough funds, no?
Abel, br br the children born in the U.S.A. are n... (show quote)


They should NOT be allowed either. The LAW should be CHANGED!! It should apply to ONLY AMERICAN CITIZENS, and ones that have APPLIED for Citizenship!!!

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Jun 30, 2020 14:07:02   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
Navigator wrote:
At the risk of incurring your wrath, I am pretty sure i*****l a***ns, even DACA i*****l a***ns, are not eligible to apply for US citizenship.


WHY would they not be able to apply for Citizenship? WHY can they not go the way of so many other Immigrants IF they wish to remain here??

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