Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

There is a major problem in the United States, and it is not racial, although many of its forms are racial.
It is not sexist, h********c, etc. What it is, however is best defined by the phrase,r "The Good Ol Boys Club".

We as Americans have a tradition and custom of policing ourselves. But when situations arise that are extreme, then we as Americans try to deal with the situation according to our own individual wisdom the best we can. This is what is playing out right now. On one hand we have the citizens, on the other hand we have the government. As our founding fathers put it, "Society drives the nation, but government restricts the people." With all this being said, let's look at our current situation.

Let's start with Mr. G****e F***d. Mr. Floyd was apprehended by four police officers and in my opinion, one officer tortured and k**led Mr. Floyd. This was played out in a video that all the news networks played over and over again. Then it took the "system" nearly a week to fire and arrest the officer. In the meantime justified outrage ensued. But then to my surprise, the Minnesota Attorney general's office charged the police offer with Manslaughter- 3rd degree murder. That is an uttermost outrage and the citizens of this country are showing their anger for all law enforcement and their anger is justifiable, but their actions of anarchy, r**ting and l**ting is not.

This event coupled with the "Stay at home" orders which our lovely governors invoked, has put an unneeded burden on our community. "Peace on the Left, Justice on the right" is the right way to approach this situation to start with. The people need justice and with that justice, peace will come. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached of this Peace. He ended his "I Dream" Speech with "Peace at last, Peace at last".

Now Dr. King spoke out against the very evil, I today over 60 years later is speaking out against, and that is summed up by the definition of the phrase "The Good Ol' Boys Club"

So what is the "Good Ol Boys Club?" They are known as the extremists, the r****ts, the insiders, the sexists, the homophones, the controlling group that cares only about those who are inside the club, and no one else. They're philosophy usually goes like this, "Us against them," they're anger is usually fueled by fear and emotional decisions. This is how these circumstances happen. It happens with in the Democrats, the Republicans, the media, and every business, profession or trade. You have the insiders and the outsiders and when they clash death is evident.

Now for a responsible American Citizen, who has great faith and p***e with in my fellow Americans, I cannot condone the acts of the Minnesota police. I believe the officer who had his knee on the neck of Mr. Floyd should be charged with first degree murder, because it was just not murder but it was also torture. Frankly stated, the officer tortured and k**led Mr. Floyd. First degree murder should be and ought to be the charge. But the three other officers should also be charged with the same offense because of the simple principle, "If you have the opportunity to do something, you have a duty to do it."

Since the message of Donald Trump is not being heard above the noise of both the media and the r**ts let me use this opportunity to plead with the president right here. My message to Donald Trump is this:

You could have had a Bobby Kennedy moment! Shame on you for not taking the opportunity to show the American people what I know.

G****e F***d and Donald Trump are victims of the same crime! The crime is called, the "Good Ol Boys Club!". In the past three years Donald Trump, his family and friends, his employees and supports have all been attacked by the corrupt members of the Democrat party and the corrupt members of the main stream media. False charges were made against Donald Trump, just like false charges were made against G****e F***d. The difference here is that G****e F***d was being arrested, where they never arrested Donald Trump. And G****e F***d lost his life. Donald Trump did not lose his life, yet impeachment is the death of a president. Therefore, I am justified in making that statement.

How many of you are old enough to remember the rally of Bobby Kennedy in April of 1968 when Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was shot and k**led in Memphis? Do you remember, DO YOU PROTESTER, remember what Robert Francis Kennedy said, "Not too long ago, I had a brother who was shot and k**led by a white man"

Do you remember? Before you, PROTESTER, go out and start protesting, the evils of the "Good Ol Boys Club" remember and keep in your heart the words of Robert Kennedy in April of 1968. Before you r**t and l**t remember Robert Kennedy words. They have not changed. What happened to Donald Trump, with Russian collusion, and impeachment can happen to anyone of us. Just ask G****e F***d! And what happened to G****e F***d, can happen to you and me. This injustice must stop and to stop it we must remove the police chief, mayor and governor in Minnesota as well as any other person of power who is too weak to stand up against the Good Ol Boys Club. That was the reason the Bill of Rights was written and it is up to us, the citizen to enforce the fundamental rule.

Don't just go out and v**e, but recall and fire these leaders that brought fire and destruction to your city. I don't care if its NYC, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis, Houston or DC? Use habeas corpus! Petition the government for the immediate removal of all those people belonging to the Good Ol Boys Club. That's how you win!

Remember what the brother of Floyd said, "I'm not destroying my community, What are you doing?" What are you doing?

America if you want to win, remember at all levels of the citizentry of this great nation, the Good Ol Boys Club seems to be the problem. Destroy that and Peace will come. It is in the Media, the political parties, all levels of government, all businesses and all groups in this nation. We as a people are being required to change we don't need the network of the Good Ol Boys Club, destroy it. Not the cities.

God Bless You all!

Patriot1

Thank you. Well 'said.'

EL Loc: Massachusetts

Navigator

If you had a greater familiarity with legal procedures you would understand that, with serious crimes like murder involving a police officer, it takes time to assemble the required information and evidence to level charges. If this is done too quickly, the case may be lost. To make a charge as quickly as possible without jeopardizing the case, the lowest applicable charge is applied, in this case 3rd degree murder. It appears that 2nd degree murder and other additional lesser charges will eventually be applied as evidence is analyzed, but the 3rd degree murder charge is sufficient to keep the officer incarcerated as this process is gone through. One charge that will never be applied is first degree murder. Regardless of how gruesomely the person is k**led, first degree murder requires prior intent and planning, something that did not occur in this case.

Capt-jack Loc: Home

The difference in your scenario is today we have protesters that have been to our government-run school system most of there young lives. None of them were alive when King or Bobby Kennedy were k**led.
The crap we are dealing with today has been formulated to take down this country are break it badly.
Socialists of today have a very good education, many have been to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia.
As far as I can see we are going to lose to them. All they need is time.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

So then charge the officer with aggravated murder plus torture. The worst and most appalling form of death is suffocation. This was brought upon by eight minutes of pressure on the neck of the victim. Therefore first degree murder.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Then it is OUR responsibility to teach them about MLK and RFK. It is our responsibility as a nation to reeducate these fools. This education may be done through force or peaceful conversation. Force is not the way to go, unless the subject is so far closed minded that the only thing they know is force. However, if force is chosen then know this violence begets violence. Therefore conversation is the answer.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Murder with torture is 1st degree murder.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

I disagree. Protestors have nothing to do with it. This man was murdered. The police officer should have been fired long ago. He didn't wake up that day & decide to murder someone. This type of attitude becomes infringed in some Depts. Only a top to bottom shake out will rid the police of the mentality that you can test suspects as less than human. This will end up costing that city millions.

Navigator

1st degree murder requires prior planning and intent which this murder didn't have. BTW just b/c you consider this death to have involved torture doesn't make it so or any murder that didn't involve instantaneous death would be classified as murder with torture and most usually are not.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

So according to you, per your argument, the murder of Jesus Christ by the Romans is man slaughter? Based upon your definition that is.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Look murder is bad enough, but torture then murder holds a greater crime. I could compromise with 2nd degree murder but 3rd degree is too lienant because of the torture involved. If a Navy Seal gets into an altercation while drunk in a bar and k**ls the person he got into a brawl with, the death penalty is on the table because he was trained in the art of lethal combat. The same law that is applied to former special forces should also apply to cops for the same reason. Ergo the other officers at the scene also should be brought up on charges of conspiracy because they failed to protect the accused.

EmilyD

First degree murder involves a specific intent to k**l, premeditation and deliberation. Torture would require those three things - intent, planning with forethought (premeditation) and long and careful consideration and/or discussion (deliberation). Chauvin was very stupid in the way he handled detaining Mr. Floyd....unfortunately, stupidity is not one of those criteria for first degree murder. I believe Chauvin unintentionally k**led Mr. Floyd by not checking how Floyd was doing during the time he was being restrained - even though many people who were paying attention were shouting at him to stop....not to mention Floyd himself begging for breath....and THEN becoming unconscious!! That's where Chauvin's stupidity comes to play. Stupid, stupid man...I hope he has nightmares about Floyd begging to breathe for the rest of his life.

Navigator

Just how thick is your skull? First degree murder has nothing to do with torture or the amount of pain inflicted in the murder, it is classified as such based upon the murderous act being planned beforehand with the sole purpose of causing death. Sorry, maybe you are just completely ignorant of Christian history. The murder of JC was preplanned, pre-meditated and conducted with only one end point in mind; death. If anyone was so inclined to prosecute, this would definitely qualify as first degree murder.