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May 22, 2020 16:34:45   #
Rose42
 
ACP45 wrote:
I see. "Respect for their fellow man" is the reason why we must wear masks now. How is it that we survived numerous past flu epidemics, SARS, and H1N1, all without the necessity of wearing masks. If minimizing the air droplets spewed out into the air when the wearer coughs, sneezes and even TALKS, then using that logic, we will all be wearing masks for the rest of our lives. Sorry, but I don't want to live in your version of life as we know it going forward.


Some will never get it. Ever. They prefer to live in an illusion.

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May 22, 2020 17:26:24   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
maryla wrote:
Saltwind. Regarding growing up : I will be 60 on my next birthday so I feel I have aged enough. I don't re,e,ber when you joined but I am one tough cookie. At 15 I was hit by a car and thrown onto the roof of the car I was pushing out of the ditch at the time. I lived the next 30 years with scoliosis as my bone frame collapsed.

I then studied becoming a health coach, Largely for my own benefit and learned to overcome my health deficits. Since that time I have exercised intensely for at least 20 minutes, so my heart rate is at the prescribed rate. I also use a tilit table to give air between the spine.

That said, if the v***s gets me, its my time to go. But during the car wreck incident I was k**led (or frozen) and went to heaven and looked down on myself from heaven or purgatory or something, and God told me to come back to earth. He needed me here. My life is better for that experience.

Have a great day!!!
Saltwind. Regarding growing up : I will be 60 on m... (show quote)


Amen and God bless!!!

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May 23, 2020 06:21:23   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
GoCubs wrote:
Respect for and protecting your fellow man has ALWAYS been the SOLE purpose of wearing a mask. There was never any other reason for wearing one. SARS and H1N1 were not nearly as easily spread as CV-19. Masks undoubtedly lessen the number and also the severity of CV-19 cases. If you don't want to do your part by wearing one, then by all means don't.


I'll do my part by doing all I can to strengthen my i****e s****m so I do not get sick in the first place, and spread the v***s to anyone else. Research as proven that wearing a mask lowers your blood oxygen levels and can cause hypoxia and hypercapnia.

"By wearing a mask, the exhaled v***ses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the olfactory nerves and travel into the brain." Russell Blaylock, MD

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May 23, 2020 08:37:51   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Workinman wrote:
I have had to deal with Silica dust my whole career...what gets me is watching a a stock person and or cashier tugging at an ill fitting mask touching their face constantly then handling product or money with unsanitized hands...it's a joke.

Their are rules for wearing a N95 and better masks:

OSHA has a Respiratory Protection Standard that deals with respirators just as it has a Bloodborne Pathogens Standard that deals with exposure to blood and certain other body fluids. The N95 is the basic workhorse for healthcare applications for airborne biological pathogens. N95s differ from masks, because N95s are designed to seal tightly against the user’s face, while masks are not so designed. The Respiratory Protection Standard requires the following whenever the use of N95s is required:

Written Respiratory Protection Program (RPP)
Qualified Administrator
Medical Clearance for employees to wear an N95
Annual Fit Testing
Annual Training

We were also told that we cannot wear our masks for more than 4 hrs. at a time...

This whole thing like everything demrats do is nothing more than a sick joke...
I have had to deal with Silica dust my whole caree... (show quote)


Thank you, Workinman, for the first FACT-based statement on face- coverings.
Most of the people thinking they are protecting themselves have no clue as to the grades of protection, how to fit them, how to dispose of them etc.
They are mostly a placebo, and under the right circumstances create a greater risk than if not worn at all. ( The parking-lot of my supermarket is strewn with snot-covered masks and gloves).

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May 23, 2020 14:29:26   #
Auntie Dee
 
As this v***s has made us all feel somewhat more vulnerable, wearing a mask gives a false sense of security to some people! I bet the psych guy/gals are having a ball determining personality strengths or weaknesses based on personal protective gear!

Etsy has become the latest place to buy a stylish or cutesy face mask! Pinterest is full of them all organized into categories of style, etc. It's rapidly becoming the new style accessory...which probably tells you something about our society, but I'm not sure I want to try to figure that one out!

Face masks have become virtue-signaling devices; "see what a good person I am", "I care about you" or "I listen to authorities", or maybe a way to separate the sheep from the wolves! I love sneaking secretive smiles at people, like me who refuse to wear masks, if not required, seems we are sort of a different breed!

I am hearing-impaired & mask-wearing has certainly made my life more difficult as I am sure it is for others with this condition. Instinctively we learn to supplement that loss with lip-reading which is now impossible so conversations are almost useless! Needless to say, I will be glad when all this ends! I had a doctor's appointment, he came in with huge cloth-mask underneath large plastic shield, I could not understand anything he said, made the whole appointment useless!

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May 23, 2020 16:05:27   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
lpnmajor wrote:
How many asymptomatic people are around you right now. They have the v***s, and are spreading it everywhere they go. How many people around you right now have the v***s, are spreading it, but have yet to show symptoms? How many have the v***s, only mild symptoms so haven't been tested, yet are still spreading the v***s everywhere they go?

Medical personnel wear masks primarily to protect patients - not themselves, such as personnel in OR. Remembering that one can test negative today, contract the v***s tonight, and begin spreading it everywhere one goes days later.

Wearing masks isn't to protect one's self from the v***s.......................it's to protect others from one's self and wh**ever one may have been exposed to unawares.

As a matter of common decency and for the greater good, wear a damn mask. What's the big deal, it clashes with one's wardrobe?
How many asymptomatic people are around you right ... (show quote)


No, it clashes with my ideology "live free or die."

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May 23, 2020 16:06:57   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Rose42 wrote:
Some will never get it. Ever. They prefer to live in an illusion.


I agree with you Rose

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May 23, 2020 16:07:38   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Workinman wrote:
Amen and God bless!!!



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May 23, 2020 16:10:25   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
ACP45 wrote:
I'll do my part by doing all I can to strengthen my i****e s****m so I do not get sick in the first place, and spread the v***s to anyone else. Research as proven that wearing a mask lowers your blood oxygen levels and can cause hypoxia and hypercapnia.

"By wearing a mask, the exhaled v***ses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the olfactory nerves and travel into the brain." Russell Blaylock, MD


Another thing masks can do is trap a CV germ so you reactivate a CV germ. Then God help you that's from Dr. Mikovits

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May 23, 2020 16:13:24   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
As this v***s has made us all feel somewhat more vulnerable, wearing a mask gives a false sense of security to some people! I bet the psych guy/gals are having a ball determining personality strengths or weaknesses based on personal protective gear!

Etsy has become the latest place to buy a stylish or cutesy face mask! Pinterest is full of them all organized into categories of style, etc. It's rapidly becoming the new style accessory...which probably tells you something about our society, but I'm not sure I want to try to figure that one out!

Face masks have become virtue-signaling devices; "see what a good person I am", "I care about you" or "I listen to authorities", or maybe a way to separate the sheep from the wolves! I love sneaking secretive smiles at people, like me who refuse to wear masks, if not required, seems we are sort of a different breed!

I am hearing-impaired & mask-wearing has certainly made my life more difficult as I am sure it is for others with this condition. Instinctively we learn to supplement that loss with lip-reading which is now impossible so conversations are almost useless! Needless to say, I will be glad when all this ends! I had a doctor's appointment, he came in with huge cloth-mask underneath large plastic shield, I could not understand anything he said, made the whole appointment useless!
As this v***s has made us all feel somewhat more v... (show quote)


I'll go with "it separates the sheep from the wolves."

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May 23, 2020 18:18:54   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Another thing masks can do is trap a CV germ so you reactivate a CV germ. Then God help you that's from Dr. Mikovits


FYI.... Dr. Mikovits is a discredited wack-job.

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May 23, 2020 18:36:28   #
maureenthannon
 
Workman, A JOKE? Jokes are supposed to be funny! There's NOTHING FUNNYwith what these jerks are doing!

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May 24, 2020 00:30:37   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Workinman wrote:
I have had to deal with Silica dust my whole career...what gets me is watching a a stock person and or cashier tugging at an ill fitting mask touching their face constantly then handling product or money with unsanitized hands...it's a joke.

Their are rules for wearing a N95 and better masks:

OSHA has a Respiratory Protection Standard that deals with respirators just as it has a Bloodborne Pathogens Standard that deals with exposure to blood and certain other body fluids. The N95 is the basic workhorse for healthcare applications for airborne biological pathogens. N95s differ from masks, because N95s are designed to seal tightly against the user’s face, while masks are not so designed. The Respiratory Protection Standard requires the following whenever the use of N95s is required:

Written Respiratory Protection Program (RPP)
Qualified Administrator
Medical Clearance for employees to wear an N95
Annual Fit Testing
Annual Training

We were also told that we cannot wear our masks for more than 4 hrs. at a time...

This whole thing like everything demrats do is nothing more than a sick joke...
I have had to deal with Silica dust my whole caree... (show quote)

I've had to wear a mask for my job in the past and you're right about what is required. One thing to mention, as common as beards (and the stubble look) are today, you cannot achieve a proper fit of the mask without being clean shaved.

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May 25, 2020 06:19:08   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Abstract
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be t***smitted by droplets and aerosol particles. Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about v***l respiratory diseases: The main t***smission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose is smaller than one aerosol particle. The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340570735_Masks_Don't_Work_A_review_of_science_relevant_to_C****-**_social_policy

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May 25, 2020 22:42:47   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
ACP45 wrote:
Abstract
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be t***smitted by droplets and aerosol particles. Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about v***l respiratory diseases: The main t***smission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose is smaller than one aerosol particle. The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340570735_Masks_Don't_Work_A_review_of_science_relevant_to_C****-**_social_policy
Abstract br Masks and respirators do not work. The... (show quote)


I'm sure the relevant studies also included the wearers wearing properly fitted masks. The reason I see for the government's pushing for the wearing of masks is to easy the fears of the public. I wear one when required. As far as social distancing is concerned, what is the distance we need to maintain? It all seems arbitrary. In Europe, they say maintain 1 meter distance. The US say keep 6 feet apart. Why not say ten feet, 5 meters, or 1 foot? I've always tried to maintain a little space between me and others (except for some women, but that's another story) just for general personal safety reasons.

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