PeterS

I thought I answered the question. I have no guns and the last thing I k**led was a deer when I was 17 years of age. If I had to k**l I would soon be dead. What is a human life worth--more than my own.

But that isn't the question because each ideology places a different value on life. It was you conservatives who proposed sacrificing the aged so as not to harm the economy by C***D. What's a human life worth? I find it incredibly ironic that a conservative would ask that.

And what is i***tic about you using Levins and the Limbaughs to form your view of the world? You didn't sit down and rationally form your view on your own. Your logic wouldn't be strewn with as many fallacies as it is if you had the ability to think for yourself. And I am surprised that nowhere in your journey towards a master's degree in English that no professor told you that the consistent use of fallacies would destroy your ability to think for yourself. That's why they are frowned upon when one is getting a liberal arts degree because if you come away with nothing else you should at least come away with the ability to think for yourself which sadly you clearly didn't...

Big Dolly

Thank you. I've been waiting at least half a century to get that of my chest.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

I agree with much of what you are saying, as far as freedom is concerned. I am all for maximizing personal freedom. However, as an earlier post says, my personal freedom, and yours, stops when it harms another person. Where we disagree is that I know that a preborn child is a person. You believe it is a tissue mass belonging to the mother. So, yes, I will do anything I legally can to prevent an a******n. I regret interfering with a woman's choice, but I will not stand by and accept the murder of a child.

Rose42

In other words, human life matters very little to you unless they share your political views. You've shown that many times.

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

You’re right! A******n has been around since the beginning of human civilization, just like MURDER has when Cain murdered Able! Murder is the taking of another’s life........Christians believe that life begins at the moment of conception because the Bible teaches this.......a******n is murder because life is ended!

Navigator

Using your logic, President Trump is in like flint as a result of all the v**es the r**ts eliminated.

Navigator

Of course we have a right, as a civilization, to interfere in the lives of people unconnected to us. We insist that those who k**l or rob people we have no connections to are apprehended and tried for their crimes. The same should apply to women who make the choice to have their unborn children murdered and those providers who actually commit those murders.

PeterS

Touché. Nicely done...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

No, you did not answer the question.

However, maybe you can explain the logic, reasoning and critical thought you applied in assuming a false premise about people you know nothing about then expanding on that with a string of presumptuous bulls**t about how I formed my world view, what professors taught in my college courses, and my ability to think for myself.

Out of thin air, with absolutely nothing more than fallacious fabrications, you make brazen, arrogant, and ignorant accusations like "You didn't sit down and rationally form your view on your own".

Or how about this little gem, you are "surprised that nowhere in your journey towards a master's degree in English that no professor told you that the consistent use of fallacies would destroy your ability to think for yourself."

I've seen some outrageous lies manufactured to attack another "human life", but you win the blue ribbon. Your personal attack on me is a fine example of postmodern philosophy in action. Suspend logic and reason and just make words mean what you want them to mean.

Nothing you have said about me is true.

So, once again, Peter, How much is a human life worth?

JW

OK, exactly what is a person? The following is an unimpeachable and generally acknowledged description.

“We are the sum total of our experiences. Those experiences – be they positive or negative – make us the person we are, at any given point in our lives."
Quote by B.J. Neblett

Since a fetus has no minimally functioning brain until the second trimester and no neural function at all for the first six weeks, its experiences are not even knowable by itself... if being confined in a fluid filled sack with nothing to contrast that with can constitute experience. Personhood isn't even a rational assessment.

Devolve this discussion to an argument about DNA and cutting your fingernails can become part of the considerations.

The bottom line is a religious argument and all religious arguments are between the individual and his/her deity. Your religious beliefs have no relevance to anyone not a co-subscriber, and your interference is totally unwarranted.

JW

How do Christian values have any relevance to non-Christians or people who understand life processes as a natural occurrences as defined by science?

JW

We, as a civilized society, have ceded to society the authority to regulate murder and robbery. A******n has not been so regulated at this time. You appear to stand your absolutist view on a religious basis... religion is the only absolute foundation for any thought process. Your religious views are irrelevant to anyone rejecting them.

Navigator

You denounce religious reasons for condemning a******n then give a metaphysical definition of life to support it. Opposition to a******n is at its basic level is a condemnation of the termination of a scientifically defined life as a human, not religious, morality violation.

JW

I do not 'denounce' religious reasons for anything. You may base your views on any basis you choose. What I denounce is your presumption that your religious reasons have any bearing on any non-subscriber.

I have not given any definition of life. What I have offered is a description of personhood that it universally acceptable and is undeniably a truism.

You really owe it to both of us to make a real effort to understand what I've written. Enough with attributions based on nothing more than your own internal gases.

PeterS

Oh bull, everything I've said about you is true. I know how you formed your world view because one by one I've waded through the fallacies you've used to create it. Do you think you are too aloof for someone to understand the complexities of a 'Blade-Runner'? You are one of the easiest to understand Blade. You are a conservatives conservative, a regressive macho-man who continually reinforces your ideology via the Levins, the Limbaughs, and all the other RW talking heads that you use to do your thinking for you. Your world is one of propaganda where Trump hires Rosenstein and Rosenstein hires Mueller and Mueller is a patsy of the Clintons and Obama yet for that logic to hold Trump would have to be in on it too. Oops how did that one slip in?

And who fed you that little conspiracy theory Blade...Levin, Limbaugh, one of Fox's talking heads? You never were able to figure out why it didn't work, did you! That's the problem with being breastfed on logical fallacies all your life--you lose the ability to think for yourself. That's why wh**ever education you've received you've wasted because you prefer a world of make-believe to one of reality. I don't know what your professors taught--all I know is that no one who is as married to logical fallacies as you are could get a master's degree in English from an accredited liberal arts college. I say that because I know no English professor would tolerate a student who could only communicate through the use of fallacies. So, if you got a masters as you say you did, it was through a religious school or on-line university--someplace where critical thinking sk**ls weren't expected and you could bull s**t your way to a 3.57.

And you are once again using projection Blade. "Make words mean what you want them to mean" is the whole reason that you use logical fallacies. You spend your days creating the world as you want it with liberals as the e-vile bad boys and you CC's so saintly the sweet smell of your turds smells of lilacs and rose water. And if I'm the one who's used fallacies to create my world view then show me how I've done it. I've certainly spent enough of my time showing you where your love of fallacies lies. If I am guilty of the same then show me where I am doing it...okay!