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Apr 23, 2020 22:56:45   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You just hit the point....why do I bother to post anything that can or should be discussed? Why don't I just conform to the standards set by others....name calling, snide remarks, or cajoling platitudes? This makes me ponder why I remain on OPP, and lately I am thinking I should just quit.


Several of our better members have left... Badbobby, Slatten, Debeda, Blade... Others are posting less...

It's a tough time and many of us aren't showing our best sides... I'm asking guilty as any...

I hope you don't leave... We've had many good diecussions , even when they got heated... And I like that you put out threads that challenge people to think...

Stay strong and remember you are appreciated by many..

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Apr 23, 2020 23:00:16   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Redangel62 wrote:
Did I put it under your name? See, I'm not so intellect then because I did not mean you. You seem like a very nice American


Thank you, yes American, sixth generation plus I am a military veteran and conservative to my core!!

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Apr 23, 2020 23:08:46   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Thank you, yes American, sixth generation plus I am a military veteran and conservative to my core!!


Ho-rah, Zoomie! My ancestors were here before 1776 also. I love knowing that fact. It's a warm glow and a little p***e though I had no hand it. I just benefitted from it.

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Apr 23, 2020 23:10:35   #
Redangel62
 
Peewee wrote:
Send me your link where it's been proven, please.

The line where you state the false info comment.

Maybe having to bite my lip for twenty years in the military, I really value my free speech even more now.


Peewee no one said he lied about anything. But he is disinformation. That's exactly why hes on a American political forum instead of Canadian or China. He is here to make sure we see what is going on with a Chinese viewpoint. If you cant see that I'm sorry. Like when he said " all the countries except America is bragging how good china delt with the v***s " that is a direct lie. Several natians are sueing china. I am on a international chat room. No one thinks china delt with things good. All feel the regime should be a parking lot. I am smart enough I dont need someone to tell me how to think about anything. If I don't know I'll ask .

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Apr 23, 2020 23:31:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Redangel62 wrote:
Peewee no one said he lied about anything. But he is disinformation. That's exactly why hes on a American political forum instead of Canadian or China. He is here to make sure we see what is going on with a Chinese viewpoint. If you cant see that I'm sorry. Like when he said " all the countries except America is bragging how good china delt with the v***s " that is a direct lie. Several natians are sueing china. I am on a international chat room. No one thinks china delt with things good. All feel the regime should be a parking lot. I am smart enough I dont need someone to tell me how to think about anything. If I don't know I'll ask .
Peewee no one said he lied about anything. But he ... (show quote)


Firstly... How would you know what forums I am on or not on?? That's an absurd statement...

Secondly... I have never tried to shift anyone's viewpoint.. Only offered my own in contrast to that of others...

Thirdly... I never made the above statement you attribute to me... Perhaps you are paraphrasing poorly...

Fourthly... Chatrooms are not news... I'm guessing you treat them the way you treat the OPP... Dismiss the opinions you disagree with and focus on affirmation...

Fifthly... Care to name the nation's suing China? Bet you can't.... But if it's a lie on your part, that would make you guilty of misinformation

Lastly... Peewee and I have interacted long enough that I'm pretty sure he can make up his own mind concerning me

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Apr 23, 2020 23:33:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Peewee wrote:
Send me your link where it's been proven, please.

The line where you state the false info comment.

Maybe having to bite my lip for twenty years in the military, I really value my free speech even more now.


Sorry Peewee... I responded to Penny Lynn and it took me to the second page... Missed your post to me...

Here's a link...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm?fbclid=IwAR3kajSPnNwafNfyMnI7DBDy21nMJrdxzsfj0Mw2-LrzEMXH7s-Om0hv81k


The military doesn't allow freedom of speech?

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Apr 24, 2020 00:52:06   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Peewee wrote:
Ho-rah, Zoomie! My ancestors were here before 1776 also. I love knowing that fact. It's a warm glow and a little p***e though I had no hand it. I just benefitted from it.


I do not have the exact date of arrival, but my farm was settled in 1775. And here I am living on the same farm so many years later. You and I need to share stories one day!

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Apr 24, 2020 01:05:19   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Peewee... I responded to Penny Lynn and it took me to the second page... Missed your post to me...

Here's a link...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm?fbclid=IwAR3kajSPnNwafNfyMnI7DBDy21nMJrdxzsfj0Mw2-LrzEMXH7s-Om0hv81k


The military doesn't allow freedom of speech?


Sure, but reassignments to Timbuktu or a substandard evaluation are how most of the sub-par enlisted and officers handle people who challenge them and work under them. I made E6 at ten years, fast for the AF but a snail's pace for the other branches and never made another strip. I also had three jobs civilianized, which also slowed me down.

My first assignment was to Panama and at the last minute it got changed and I got to visit Turkey for 15 months. Twice I was the #1 non-selectee for MSgt. Unheard of for it to happen to anyone twice. That means they found my name and drew a red line just above it.

I work as well as I can with all people no matter the race or religion. But start shoving me around and I will shove back. I've threatened bodily harm to about three supervisors during my twenty years. One wanted to send me to a shrink because he couldn't mess with me any other way. One forged a document on me so he could escape being called on the carpet. And the third I won't talk about because I'm still ashamed of how I handled it.

He was the one reassigned to HQ Randolph AFB, Personnel, the place where promotions, assignments, and other things are decided AF wide. I believe he got even, in his own way.

In my last assignment, I was diverted from Lackland which was twenty miles from home, perfect, and got diverted to HQ AFTAC to Patrick AFB, FL. which was the worst assignment of my career. Way too much politics. We handled most of the Space Coast and those guys whine and cry about everything. Jocking for their first civilian job after retirement or separation from military service, usually in DC or with a military contractor.

Guess who handled the officer and enlisted annual evaluations? Yours truly. That was when Mount Pinatubo blew up in the PI and those got placed on me. It tripled my two-man office workload for months. Officers can appeal their evaluations to higher HQ's, so most do as a matter of course. You never met a person who loved the AF more than me for the first 15 years and h**ed it most of the last five. It all revolves around the people you work with. The only assignment where I made very few friends. Two that helped me the most were a Jewish guy who left a year before me to Area 51 and a computer programmer who helped me with programs that made my job a lot easier. He was a wunderkind, tell him what you wanted and he could write the computer code, as you spoke. Five years and two friends were kind of like a black hole for me. Especially, if you feel you're working in a gator pit.

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Apr 24, 2020 01:28:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Peewee... I responded to Penny Lynn and it took me to the second page... Missed your post to me...

Here's a link...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm?fbclid=IwAR3kajSPnNwafNfyMnI7DBDy21nMJrdxzsfj0Mw2-LrzEMXH7s-Om0hv81k


The military doesn't allow freedom of speech?


Freedom of speech in the military, for most things, yes. It depends on the job. Most of my jobs were classified and I could not even talk about those jobs with family. Strictly, a need to know. We will not lie to protect the government, we simply will not answer.

So, your source is a newspaper clearing house. Were you aware they do not vet stories, they "lightly' edit and then publish? Their source is cited as Scripps Research Institute, and their source was Nature Medicine. And, Nature Medicine say it is improbable that the v***s was man made. But, there is support for my theory of 2 v***s; "SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh c****av***s known to infect humans; SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 can cause severe disease, whereas HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E are associated with mild symptoms." Indeed, the article goes on to say "Neither the bat betac****av***ses nor the pangolin betac****av***ses sampled thus far have polybasic cleavage sites." I guess they are still looking for the animal that was the progenitor.

And they also have two other theories....but, this is already long, you can read their article at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

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Apr 24, 2020 02:03:21   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Peewee... I responded to Penny Lynn and it took me to the second page... Missed your post to me...

Here's a link...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm?fbclid=IwAR3kajSPnNwafNfyMnI7DBDy21nMJrdxzsfj0Mw2-LrzEMXH7s-Om0hv81k


The military doesn't allow freedom of speech?


Even with a name like Science Daily, I don't believe it. Don't know if you believe in the Swamp or the NWO but I do. I didn't use to, but I do now.

The elite believes they have the right to rule over everyone which makes me think, that they think, they are descendants of the fallen angels or the little "g" gods. Those the Amorites worshipped. Too many occult symbols and other perversions in their lifestyles.

If I'm right and Trump and Q are trustworthy a lot of little kids and some adults will soon be coming up from cages and underground tunnels below LA and NYC. I think the Mercy and Comfort navy hospital ships were positioned strategically to help rescue them.

If it doesn't happen before the e******ns you may call me any name or names you wish and I won't take offense.

But the US just finished training our military on how to fight underground in tunnels, in sewers, and in caves. Not sure if the cost was millions or billions. But it was megabucks. Kids and drugs are the most valuable commodities the cartels deal in today. I think China is called the Red D**gon and Japan the White D**gon but it's worldwide.

I no longer care how much money Trump spends, if he can stop it. He has been after p*******es since he took office. Most of the sealed indictments are for p*******es and politicians. That's why I think it will happen prior to the e******ns.

The military has been trained, the ships are in place, time to blow some doors off their hinges, and bring the children back into the light. 88,000 per year go missing in the US. I don't believe that many run away from home every year. They are being snatched by p*******es and politicians who protect them.

A lot of people we hold in high esteem are about to fall. From priests, pastors, law enforcement, judges, and politicians. Anyway, that's what I believe is going on behind the scenes with Trump and C****-**. The lockdown just keeps civilians out of harm's way. If the pedos k**l them it will be worse than all the school shootings combined. I'm just worried about how many will be snuffed out before they are rescued.

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Apr 24, 2020 02:06:28   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Freedom of speech in the military, for most things, yes. It depends on the job. Most of my jobs were classified and I could not even talk about those jobs with family. Strictly, a need to know. We will not lie to protect the government, we simply will not answer.

So, your source is a newspaper clearing house. Were you aware they do not vet stories, they "lightly' edit and then publish? Their source is cited as Scripps Research Institute, and their source was Nature Medicine. And, Nature Medicine say it is improbable that the v***s was man made. But, there is support for my theory of 2 v***s; "SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh c****av***s known to infect humans; SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 can cause severe disease, whereas HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E are associated with mild symptoms." Indeed, the article goes on to say "Neither the bat betac****av***ses nor the pangolin betac****av***ses sampled thus far have polybasic cleavage sites." I guess they are still looking for the animal that was the progenitor.

And they also have two other theories....but, this is already long, you can read their article at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
Freedom of speech in the military, for most things... (show quote)


I think you are hot on the trail Pennylynn, keep up the good work!

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Apr 24, 2020 02:15:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Peewee wrote:
Even with a name like Science Daily, I don't believe it. Don't know if you believe in the Swamp or the NWO but I do. I didn't use to, but I do now.

The elite believes they have the right to rule over everyone which makes me think, that they think, they are descendants of the fallen angels or the little "g" gods. Those the Amorites worshipped. Too many occult symbols and other perversions in their lifestyles.

If I'm right and Trump and Q are trustworthy a lot of little kids and some adults will soon be coming up from cages and underground tunnels below LA and NYC. I think the Mercy and Comfort navy hospital ships were positioned strategically to help rescue them.

If it doesn't happen before the e******ns you may call me any name or names you wish and I won't take offense.

But the US just finished training our military on how to fight underground in tunnels, in sewers, and in caves. Not sure if the cost was millions or billions. But it was megabucks. Kids and drugs are the most valuable commodities the cartels deal in today. I think China is called the Red D**gon and Japan the White D**gon but it's worldwide.

I no longer care how much money Trump spends, if he can stop it. He has been after p*******es since he took office. Most of the sealed indictments are for p*******es and politicians. That's why I think it will happen prior to the e******ns.

The military has been trained, the ships are in place, time to blow some doors off their hinges, and bring the children back into the light. 88,000 per year go missing in the US. I don't believe that many run away from home every year. They are being snatched by p*******es and politicians who protect them.

A lot of people we hold in high esteem are about to fall. From priests, pastors, law enforcement, judges, and politicians. Anyway, that's what I believe is going on behind the scenes with Trump and C****-**. The lockdown just keeps civilians out of harm's way. If the pedos k**l them it will be worse than all the school shootings combined. I'm just worried about how many will be snuffed out before they are rescued.
Even with a name like Science Daily, I don't belie... (show quote)


For you and Pennylynn...

That was just the first site that came up? on my search engine..

There are plenty of others...

I'll take a look at Pennylynns site in a bit here as well... I'm grabbing a quick coffee break then back to figuring out this online teaching app that I'll be using starting May... I h**e that the quality of my classes I almost certainly going to suffer... But I am getting lots of good advice from my colleagues.. And it will be an interesting challenge...

I doubt that the v***s was manmade... The actions of the government wouldn't fit for it... If they had prior knowledge I would have expected them to shut down W***n much earlier...

Still... Always fun to discuss and learn....

You both stay safe....

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Apr 24, 2020 02:42:26   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
For you and Pennylynn...

That was just the first site that came up? on my search engine..

There are plenty of others...

I'll take a look at Pennylynns site in a bit here as well... I'm grabbing a quick coffee break then back to figuring out this online teaching app that I'll be using starting May... I h**e that the quality of my classes I almost certainly going to suffer... But I am getting lots of good advice from my colleagues.. And it will be an interesting challenge...

I doubt that the v***s was manmade... The actions of the government wouldn't fit for it... If they had prior knowledge I would have expected them to shut down W***n much earlier...

Still... Always fun to discuss and learn....

You both stay safe....
For you and Pennylynn... br br That was just the... (show quote)


Yes, there are plenty of sites that come up in search engines. But, the vast majority use the same source. You have to be a data miner, but each one will provide their source.

Let us assume that you are right, this was not artificially created because an "easy backbone" was not used. So, what about the second "conspiracy theory", that it was released....accidentally(???) from the lab. Remember the "Russian Flu" aka, H1N1 of 1977, according to a few, was released by China. Records also show Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) was a accident, and since the original epidemic, there have been six escapes of the v***s from laboratories — four in Beijing, and an additional one each in Singapore and Taiwan. China is not the only place that has allowed v***s and disease escape; the US with Amtrak (sp?), Hoof and Mouth in UK, 1995 Venezuelan equine encephalitis (VEE), among others. Any thoughts?

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Apr 24, 2020 03:04:58   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
For you and Pennylynn...

That was just the first site that came up? on my search engine..

There are plenty of others...

I'll take a look at Pennylynns site in a bit here as well... I'm grabbing a quick coffee break then back to figuring out this online teaching app that I'll be using starting May... I h**e that the quality of my classes I almost certainly going to suffer... But I am getting lots of good advice from my colleagues.. And it will be an interesting challenge...

I doubt that the v***s was manmade... The actions of the government wouldn't fit for it... If they had prior knowledge I would have expected them to shut down W***n much earlier...

Still... Always fun to discuss and learn....

You both stay safe....
For you and Pennylynn... br br That was just the... (show quote)


Eventually, the t***h will come out. Good luck with your classes.

Man, if you could have seen me three weeks ago. You would have thought I'd been jumped by a gang. Took too much insulin before bed. Insulin went too low, woke up in a sweat. I got up to turn the light on and did a face plant, legs refused to hold me up. Concrete under the carpet. A big knot on my right cheekbone, two black eyes, banged my left knee, knocked hide off three places, even my throat was black and blue. The only thing that saved me was my hard head and my ability to low crawl to the kitchen, open the fridge, and the honey jar. Took a big ole sip and in thirty minutes was fine again. I think if I had headed for the bathroom first I might not be here today. The second time this has happened, no more insulin before bed. That's the new rule, I live by.

I used to ride bulls and break horses and never got this banged up. But, I'm way past 19 now and my body just won't mind me anymore. She was a beaut while she lasted but I think her best days are behind her. Dang, all I have left are my looks and my strong right arm. If they fail me, first I'll cry in private, second, I'll ask someone to give me a swift kick in my backside. Know I'm not unique, but I really h**e getting old. Maybe it's not being able to do what I used to be able to do. Same difference I guess.

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Apr 24, 2020 07:38:44   #
American Vet
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Freedom of speech in the military, for most things, yes.


I have to question you on this. The military does not have 'free speech'. Or at least it didn't when I served.

That statement is not a condemnation. The military should not have free speech. The military is a very unique culture with the basic requirement that you might be sent to die. That requires a system that has a unified goal without dissention.

If you want free speech, you need to be a civilian.

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