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Apr 13, 2020 19:44:41   #
Ybliku
 
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.

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Apr 13, 2020 19:48:33   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Ybliku wrote:
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surr... (show quote)


Welcome. I live in Chicago so I have the same State leaders as you and I feel about them like you apparently do about our President. Looking forward to lively debates.

Logically Right

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Apr 13, 2020 19:49:42   #
Ybliku
 
I don’t care for our state leaders anymore than I do our country’s leader.
Thanks for the welcome and I am sure we will have a lot in common along the way. Lol

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Apr 13, 2020 20:07:39   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Ybliku wrote:
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surr... (show quote)


Welcome...

Speaking for myself, I tend to support platforms more than individuals...

Helps if the politics aren't personal...

Stay strong

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Apr 13, 2020 20:25:20   #
Hug
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Welcome...

Speaking for myself, I tend to support platforms more than individuals...

Helps if the politics aren't personal...

Stay strong


I certainly agree with Canuckus. I believe it is important to know what the platforms stand for and vote for the individual that will support your platform. An individual not connected to a platform will not be able to get anything done. Such an individual in Congress is just a straw blowing in the wind. Also, an Independent does not stand for anything. There are a lot of Independents because there a lot of voters who do not know what they stand for. I look upon Independents as confused voters.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:39:49   #
son of witless
 
Ybliku wrote:
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surr... (show quote)


Stick around and we ever Trumpers will give you our side. This is a place where all sides can say their peace. I hope you have a thick skin. However, if you truly want a constructive discussion, we can do that. If you are courteous you will be treated with courtesy back.

I wish you well with your medical problems.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:41:33   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Ybliku wrote:
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surr... (show quote)


You wanna talk deceitful.

How about the media.

Obviously, they have deceived you thoroughly.

Trump is the best president in recent history.

The reason you can't see that is because you been duped by the media.

Wake up and smell the coffee..............Goober.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:42:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
son of witless wrote:
Stick around and we ever Trumpers will give you our side. This is a place where all sides can say their peace. I hope you have a thick skin. However, if you truly want a constructive discussion, we can do that. If you are courteous you will be treated with courtesy back.

I wish you well with your medical problems.


Seems like this site is becoming more and more liberal every single day!

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Apr 13, 2020 20:43:12   #
American Vet
 
Ybliku wrote:
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surrounded by beautiful scenery, but unfortunately we are taxed to death. People are leaving at an astounding rate. Jobs in rural America are not easy to find, especially for a person unable to work away from their home, as I am.
I have Fibromyalgia. I just did the bloodtest and was categorized as Strongly Confirmable. I am going to participate in a Clinical Trial as soon as COVID19 is under control.
I am going to give this a try, as I have never participated in this type of forum before.
My main issue is our country’s leader. I have no use for that person. I try to understand what his supporters see in him. Why they support such a deceitful person. Do they allow their family members to be deceitful to them, or their co-workers, their clergy???? If they do, God really needs to help us. If they don’t, what makes them accept it from him.
I live in beautiful southern Illinois. We are surr... (show quote)


Do you pick a mechanic because of their friendly manner and personal lifestyle? Or do you pick a mechanic who can do the job?

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Apr 13, 2020 20:45:55   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Hug wrote:
I certainly agree with Canuckus. I believe it is important to know what the platforms stand for and vote for the individual that will support your platform. An individual not connected to a platform will not be able to get anything done. Such an individual in Congress is just a straw blowing in the wind. Also, an Independent does not stand for anything. There are a lot of Independents because there a lot of voters who do not know what they stand for. I look upon Independents as confused voters.
I certainly agree with Canuckus. I believe it is ... (show quote)


I disagree with you that Independent Voters are confused. I don't belong to what I consider the ONE-PARTY voters. To me that is the Rep/Dem or the Dem/Rep party. I tried that when I first voted sixty some years ago and learned quickly that they only want you to give them money. Independents think about, ponder, and opt for the best candidate. I don't believe we have a two party system but we actually have a dog and pony show to keep us pacified into believing that we do.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:47:14   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
Seems like this site is becoming more and more liberal every single day!


Yep, it's a sad fact that a remarkable percentage of Americans are just plain stupid.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:51:46   #
Ybliku
 
I will just agree to disagree with you. I have watched and heard him speak and the untruths that come from his mouth don’t come through the media first. So, I will just have to agree that we disagree on that one.
Also, it doesn’t matter what the platform is it seems anymore in the political arena. Every side strong arms the other. Laws are changed to make it right for the time or side or set of people wanting it. Seems like this world just gets more and more jacked up by the day.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:53:10   #
Ybliku
 
I want to look around here a little bit it seems interesting so far.

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Apr 13, 2020 20:53:21   #
son of witless
 
proud republican wrote:
Seems like this site is becoming more and more liberal every single day!


That is okay by me. As much as I enjoy present company, I do not enjoy echo chambers. I only hope that any new liberals who join will follow some basic rules and be a tad more smart than the old barnacles we have now.


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Apr 13, 2020 20:57:27   #
Michael10
 
Hug wrote:
I certainly agree with Canuckus. I believe it is important to know what the platforms stand for and vote for the individual that will support your platform. An individual not connected to a platform will not be able to get anything done. Such an individual in Congress is just a straw blowing in the wind. Also, an Independent does not stand for anything. There are a lot of Independents because there a lot of voters who do not know what they stand for. I look upon Independents as confused voters.
I certainly agree with Canuckus. I believe it is ... (show quote)


While I can agree a platform can give focus and get some things done, truth and fairness sometimes outweigh platform. Truth means more to me personally than any political opinion. Honesty should be the platform all political decisions are based on and if there is no truth there is no foundation. No foundation leaves any platform on shaky legs those legs at some point will collapse. Truth is something lacking in our government that should be restored for without truth, our governments word is worthless and leaves the people without trust. Many apparently don't associate truth with politics and take a hard look where that has go us as a country.

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