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C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
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Mar 21, 2020 11:22:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You can not be serious...."permanently isolate everyone over 65-70" what...jail time, because that is what you suggest, for being old and unwell? I am 70, there is no way under heaven that anyone is going to lock me away! I will take precautions for the sake of others, but I refuse to curl up and die because someone thinks I may get sick. Newsflash, everyone dies! Case fatality for this (and all v***s) rate increase with age, with 14.8% of cases in people over age 80 resulting in death. Patients ages 70 to 79 had an 8% fatality rate, while those 60 to 69 had a fatality rate of 3.6%. This is LOWER than the death percentage of the run of the mill flu....see this table https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm#table1

So, if someone wants to put me in a bubble....they will have a fight on their hands....quality of life trumps quantity of life!
You can not be serious...."permanently isolat... (show quote)


Yep! Use common sense.

C****a V***s info
Left wants you to believe c****av***s is Trump's fault
The Timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbqZyapMgzY

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Bill Gates and the C****a Conspiracy

https://www.realhistorychannel.org/bill-gates-and-the-c****a-conspiracy

NY Times: Bill Gates Stepping Down From Microsoft’s Board
Mr. Gates, who founded the company with Paul Allen four decades ago, will also step down from the board of Berkshire Hathaway.
REBUTTAL BY
The timing of Bill Gates' unexpected resignations from both the Boards of Microsoft (the company which he co-founded) as well as of Warren Buffoon's Berkshire Hathaway Empire did not come as a shock to the chroniclers of Q Anon -- who has often posted that the unusual number of CEO's and other high executives who have "resigned" these past few years would continue to increase as part of "the plan." But what many have missed is Gate's clear connection to the hyped-up outbreak of this not-so-deadly v***s which the Deep State engineered for geo-political purposes -- but which will soon backfire upon them as already may be the case with Gates.
Gates -- who is also a Global Warmist promoter, has had this odd obsession with v***ses and v*****es. In November of 2019, shortly before the first case of C****-** appeared in China, a Netflix crockumentary featured the "prophet" Gates warning of such p******cs. An excerpt from Netflix's "P******c" (not Gates speaking):


November 7, 2019
“This is a wet market in the Lianghua, China. Unlike markets in much of the West, where animals are already dead when they arrive, this wet market sells meat that’s very fresh. It’s k**led on sight. That’s what makes it a disease factory. ... All the while, their v***ses are mixing and mutating, increasing the odds that one finds its way to humans.” (here)

Just 10 days later (here) -- the very first case (though not known as the first at the time) popped up in China. The subsequent p******c would later be attributed to a "wet market" (™ pending)_ --- How conveeenient -- as the Church Lady of old Saturday Night Live fame used to say!
Flashback to December 20, 2016 -- the interim period between the outgoing Obongo and incoming President-elect Trump -- and G*******t Atlantic Magazine brings us more "prophecy":
Headline: How a P******c Might Play Out Under Trump.
"Bioethicist Art Caplan from the New York University School of Medicine envisages a quick slide towards isolation and authoritarianism. In a blog post that can only be described as p******c fan-fiction, he imagines that a lethal mutant strain of H7N9 flu emerges in China and spreads to America. A hypothetical President Trump responds with a quick succession of moves: He seals the borders with Canada and Mexico; he quarantines sick Americans; he declares martial law, builds detention-style camps for quarantine-defiers, and uses epidemic conspiracies to launch a trade war with China. ... Future years will reveal whether the story is prophetic or far-fetched."..

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Mar 21, 2020 11:27:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
By the way, if you look at the numbers, this v***s favors old with preexisting conditions. Under sixty, the chance of dying is about1%. Over 65, about 22% or more.

The press caused the panic, but the old need to watch out. When we stop the social distancing, they will be just as susseptable. (I can't spell) It will rebound.


CDC says the incubation period is average of 5 days, but could be up to 14 days. The illness averages 5 to 10 days but in extreme cases can last longer. Why does the infected number keep going up and the death and recovered numbers seem to be almost flatlined? Taking the average, a turn should take place about every 24 days. That means that most that are tested never get sick from the v***s but remain "positive" when retested. Or the sick never improve or die, they just linger, perhaps on life support? More than 80 days ago the v***s was seen across borders....statistically, there should be at least twice the number of recovered or dead. The numbers do not add up!

I could be dead wrong, so if you or anyone can put this in focus, it would be appreciated.

In respect to our more seasoned citizens, they need to be very concerned and keep in contact with friends, isolation causes depression, depression is a k**ler. Even after this is over...they will not have developed any immunities in lock up, so death can come from other v***s unrelated to the China version.

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Mar 21, 2020 11:36:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Yep! Use common sense.

C****a V***s info
Left wants you to believe c****av***s is Trump's fault
The Timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbqZyapMgzY

****************************************************
Bill Gates and the C****a Conspiracy

https://www.realhistorychannel.org/bill-gates-and-the-c****a-conspiracy

NY Times: Bill Gates Stepping Down From Microsoft’s Board
Mr. Gates, who founded the company with Paul Allen four decades ago, will also step down from the board of Berkshire Hathaway.
REBUTTAL BY
The timing of Bill Gates' unexpected resignations from both the Boards of Microsoft (the company which he co-founded) as well as of Warren Buffoon's Berkshire Hathaway Empire did not come as a shock to the chroniclers of Q Anon -- who has often posted that the unusual number of CEO's and other high executives who have "resigned" these past few years would continue to increase as part of "the plan." But what many have missed is Gate's clear connection to the hyped-up outbreak of this not-so-deadly v***s which the Deep State engineered for geo-political purposes -- but which will soon backfire upon them as already may be the case with Gates.
Gates -- who is also a Global Warmist promoter, has had this odd obsession with v***ses and v*****es. In November of 2019, shortly before the first case of C****-** appeared in China, a Netflix crockumentary featured the "prophet" Gates warning of such p******cs. An excerpt from Netflix's "P******c" (not Gates speaking):


November 7, 2019
“This is a wet market in the Lianghua, China. Unlike markets in much of the West, where animals are already dead when they arrive, this wet market sells meat that’s very fresh. It’s k**led on sight. That’s what makes it a disease factory. ... All the while, their v***ses are mixing and mutating, increasing the odds that one finds its way to humans.” (here)

Just 10 days later (here) -- the very first case (though not known as the first at the time) popped up in China. The subsequent p******c would later be attributed to a "wet market" (™ pending)_ --- How conveeenient -- as the Church Lady of old Saturday Night Live fame used to say!
Flashback to December 20, 2016 -- the interim period between the outgoing Obongo and incoming President-elect Trump -- and G*******t Atlantic Magazine brings us more "prophecy":
Headline: How a P******c Might Play Out Under Trump.
"Bioethicist Art Caplan from the New York University School of Medicine envisages a quick slide towards isolation and authoritarianism. In a blog post that can only be described as p******c fan-fiction, he imagines that a lethal mutant strain of H7N9 flu emerges in China and spreads to America. A hypothetical President Trump responds with a quick succession of moves: He seals the borders with Canada and Mexico; he quarantines sick Americans; he declares martial law, builds detention-style camps for quarantine-defiers, and uses epidemic conspiracies to launch a trade war with China. ... Future years will reveal whether the story is prophetic or far-fetched."..
Yep! Use common sense. br br C****a V***s info br... (show quote)


Interesting. I know that Gates was at the last "p******c" conference, but I had no reason, until now, to link him to this world wide panic.

Thank you for the info.

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Mar 21, 2020 11:44:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
CDC says the incubation period is average of 5 days, but could be up to 14 days. The illness averages 5 to 10 days but in extreme cases can last longer. Why does the infected number keep going up and the death and recovered numbers seem to be almost flatlined? Taking the average, a turn should take place about every 24 days. That means that most that are tested never get sick from the v***s but remain "positive" when retested. Or the sick never improve or die, they just linger, perhaps on life support? More than 80 days ago the v***s was seen across borders....statistically, there should be at least twice the number of recovered or dead. The numbers do not add up!

I could be dead wrong, so if you or anyone can put this in focus, it would be appreciated.

In respect to our more seasoned citizens, they need to be very concerned and keep in contact with friends, isolation causes depression, depression is a k**ler. Even after this is over...they will not have developed any immunities in lock up, so death can come from other v***s unrelated to the China version.
CDC says the incubation period is average of 5 day... (show quote)


A part of what you're seeing is the effects of more testing. It seems they are calling a positive test an infected person. This was to be expected since testing only reveals who has the v***s and is not a treatment. In creased testing of those under 60 would inevitably change the numbers as you are seeing.

I agree with you on the elderly. It is a tough call for them especially if they have a preexisting condition. They are going to be high risk until there is an effective treatment or a v*****e. They can hide out or not. But these numbers do prove we should not be shutting down businesses and especially schools.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:11:57   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
A part of what you're seeing is the effects of more testing. It seems they are calling a positive test an infected person. This was to be expected since testing only reveals who has the v***s and is not a treatment. In creased testing of those under 60 would inevitably change the numbers as you are seeing.

I agree with you on the elderly. It is a tough call for them especially if they have a preexisting condition. They are going to be high risk until there is an effective treatment or a v*****e. They can hide out or not. But these numbers do prove we should not be shutting down businesses and especially schools.
A part of what you're seeing is the effects of mor... (show quote)


Thank you...so, it is a retest of those who were tested and not necessarily "new" infections.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:34:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Thank you...so, it is a retest of those who were tested and not necessarily "new" infections.


Just a greater number of people getting tested, mainly. This just changes the percentages, not the absolute numbers of ill people or deaths.

This is a great website for crunching numbers: http://www.worldometers.info/c****av***s/

You can look at each individual country as well. It's undated periodically.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:36:12   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Thank you...so, it is a retest of those who were tested and not necessarily "new" infections.


Again, I think they are calling positive test results as equal to ill.

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Mar 25, 2020 13:59:36   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I agree with that prediction...

I agree to an extant that infected nations should take more responsibility concerning flights than others.... But I haven't seen too many nations banning flights... With any epidemic...

I would think that stronger border security would be key...

I like that China is automatically quarantining anyone entering the nation for fourteen days... It will be effective...
I agree with that prediction... img src="https:... (show quote)



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