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Mar 19, 2020 23:56:02   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.

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Mar 20, 2020 00:37:06   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
dtucker300 wrote:
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.
They must be running these C****-** infection mode... (show quote)




Finally! Thank you! Everyone on OPP disagrees with me, it is refreshing to see that I am not alone!!!! From the start, the numbers did not add up for me!!!!

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Mar 20, 2020 00:37:47   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
dtucker300 wrote:
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.
They must be running these C****-** infection mode... (show quote)


Apparently you are not woke to Obama math!

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Mar 20, 2020 00:51:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.
They must be running these C****-** infection mode... (show quote)


What stopped the spread in China

Seriously...

A complete lockdown of the nation...

No travel between cities or provinces...

No open businesses other than essential services...

Numerous checks anytime an individual left their apartment with a requirement that any individual showing any symptoms report to a quarantine center for testing...

1.4 billion people Selfquarantining on their homes for the past few months...

I missed where that was mentioned above...

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Mar 20, 2020 00:51:31   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
It looks like the Messiah is getting ready to present himself to the world. The C****av***s is pestilence. Next will come famine, which has already started. It will end with a sword, or war. Probably world war. Only the Messiah can save us. Those who truly convert to the religion of the Messiah will be saved and healed. Isaiah 6:10. "...lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed".

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Mar 20, 2020 03:18:13   #
Trumpnotthestormiestpres Loc: L.A.
 
I live in Los Angeles. No bread and eggs in the stores. Not allowed to go to stores. Can't drive after curfew without police pullover.

But not seeing the bodies piling up in the streets. Hearing the media b***h about testing kit shortage.

So you know how many people wouldn't go to a doctor if you paid them two months ago? Demanding a test won't help. Because the that only works if they are trying to detect where you got it.

Ventilators ventilators. People who wouldn't tune up their car or upgrade their computer now demand a ventilator for every human being?

I know people who have been gathering in family groups and so forth blithely unaware for weeks it connected to c***d **.

While the media beats the panic drum and hammers the chaos Vibe it doesn't feel that bad.

The media wants 54 questions answered for every step forward the government can make.

Worst case scenario with swoosh graphics and trace Gallagher heaping fears and scenarios and what then, what then, what then

I didn't watch the news today because the panic beat was on heavy rotation. I watch fox news and trace Gallagher keeps insistently hammering about how bad things are.

The problem is in Los Angeles a lot of people are living without a one day saFety net. They don't want to be accountable to a shelter program.

They come for the nice weather and the easy life.

They won't file papers or keep receipts..instead of solving their problems they followed the yellow brick road. Now the news keeps bleating about how crowded the streets are in the Emerald City.

Maybe this is the time for "refugees" from the third world country of choice to revisit their default destination of the u.s

This country is over over over whelmed with what's going on now.

Time to cut the stragglers loose. If you live in Los Angeles you meet 5 people a day who live here but don't speak read or write the language.

But they want all the goodies. They live in households that get govt checks from 5 different sources . And they all have side gigs.

They won't get a check if they didn't file a tax return.

Trace Gallagher is now talking about another whole worry tree of havoc. What happens if every fear every question every angle of every thing isn't closed off instantly.

Enough.

Can't these people write any other filler than heightened panic 24 by 7?

For chrissakes I watched morning Joe last night for the first time in 6 months because the roto-panic auto-panic programming on Fox news was such a turnoff.

isnt there one single thing to watch on TV that tells positive news or has a hopeful spin?

I actually am watching Chris Mathews. A show I despise. But it's actually better than the havoc float foaming up at the fox news panic panic panic cafe.

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Mar 20, 2020 03:36:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Trumpnotthestormiestpres wrote:
I live in Los Angeles. No bread and eggs in the stores. Not allowed to go to stores. Can't drive after curfew without police pullover.

But not seeing the bodies piling up in the streets. Hearing the media b***h about testing kit shortage.

So you know how many people wouldn't go to a doctor if you paid them two months ago? Demanding a test won't help. Because the that only works if they are trying to detect where you got it.

Ventilators ventilators. People who wouldn't tune up their car or upgrade their computer now demand a ventilator for every human being?

I know people who have been gathering in family groups and so forth blithely unaware for weeks it connected to c***d **.

While the media beats the panic drum and hammers the chaos Vibe it doesn't feel that bad.

The media wants 54 questions answered for every step forward the government can make.

Worst case scenario with swoosh graphics and trace Gallagher heaping fears and scenarios and what then, what then, what then

I didn't watch the news today because the panic beat was on heavy rotation. I watch fox news and trace Gallagher keeps insistently hammering about how bad things are.

The problem is in Los Angeles a lot of people are living without a one day saFety net. They don't want to be accountable to a shelter program.

They come for the nice weather and the easy life.

They won't file papers or keep receipts..instead of solving their problems they followed the yellow brick road. Now the news keeps bleating about how crowded the streets are in the Emerald City.

Maybe this is the time for "refugees" from the third world country of choice to revisit their default destination of the u.s

This country is over over over whelmed with what's going on now.

Time to cut the stragglers loose. If you live in Los Angeles you meet 5 people a day who live here but don't speak read or write the language.

But they want all the goodies. They live in households that get govt checks from 5 different sources . And they all have side gigs.

They won't get a check if they didn't file a tax return.

Trace Gallagher is now talking about another whole worry tree of havoc. What happens if every fear every question every angle of every thing isn't closed off instantly.

Enough.

Can't these people write any other filler than heightened panic 24 by 7?

For chrissakes I watched morning Joe last night for the first time in 6 months because the roto-panic auto-panic programming on Fox news was such a turnoff.

isnt there one single thing to watch on TV that tells positive news or has a hopeful spin?

I actually am watching Chris Mathews. A show I despise. But it's actually better than the havoc float foaming up at the fox news panic panic panic cafe.
I live in Los Angeles. No bread and eggs in the st... (show quote)


FOX has been wretched this week...


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Mar 20, 2020 03:51:54   #
EmilyD
 
Pennylynn wrote:


Finally! Thank you! Everyone on OPP disagrees with me, it is refreshing to see that I am not alone!!!! From the start, the numbers did not add up for me!!!!
img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/ima... (show quote)


Me too, Pennylynn. I received pretty harsh criticism for my view that "following the money" is part (if not most) of what is behind the exaggerated numbers. So far the cookie jar has $100 billion in it with (as F***i stated at the last press briefing) at least 10,000 "organizers and researchers, etc." hands in that cookie jar. When the jar is empty, the v***s will dwindle down to a memory. That is my opinion, but it's not out of thin air - I read about past p******c "crises" and that was what it all boiled down to in the end was how much $$ the "organizers and researchers" (read: Governors and other "scientific grant applicants") could obtain before it all dried up. The MSM, which is definitely a part of this whole s**m, hypes the "crisis" and more and more $$ is thrown at it.

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Mar 20, 2020 04:01:07   #
Trumpnotthestormiestpres Loc: L.A.
 
And Gavin Newsom loves Trump suddenly and needs more more more from the Fed.

How come fox news doesn't reveal that California is sitting on a HUGE piggy bank of money for Medicaid and Medicare and medi Cal the state could use?

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Mar 20, 2020 04:02:04   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Trumpnotthestormiestpres wrote:
And Gavin Newsom loves Trump suddenly and needs more more more from the Fed.

How come fox news doesn't reveal that California is sitting on a HUGE piggy bank of money for Medicaid and Medicare and medi Cal the state could use?


Thought California was one of the richest places in the world?

Fifth largest economy or something like that?

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Mar 20, 2020 04:07:57   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
What stopped the spread in China

Seriously...

A complete lockdown of the nation...

No travel between cities or provinces...

No open businesses other than essential services...

Numerous checks anytime an individual left their apartment with a requirement that any individual showing any symptoms report to a quarantine center for testing...

1.4 billion people Selfquarantining on their homes for the past few months...

I missed where that was mentioned above...
What stopped the spread in China img src="https:/... (show quote)


If you consider the "other end of the world flu" that came directly from china, all was needed was a rinse and repeat of precautions from the 2013 Bird Flu. That end of the world v***s had a 40 percent mortality rate. Before that, in 2002 was SARS.

The world was warned in 2013. China is a hotbed for creation of the next p******c. Flu v***ses can mutate anywhere. In 2015, an H5N2 flu strain broke out in the United States and spread throughout the country, requiring the slaughter of 48 million poultry. As described in Smithsonian Magazine; "But China is uniquely positioned to create a novel flu v***s that k**ls people. On Chinese farms, people, poultry and other livestock often live in close proximity. Pigs can be infected by both bird flu and human flu v***ses, becoming potent “mixing vessels” that allow genetic material from each to combine and possibly form new and deadly strains. The public’s taste for freshly k**led meat, and the conditions at live markets, create ample opportunity for humans to come in contact with these new mutations. In an effort to contain these infections and keep the poultry industry alive, Chinese officials have developed flu v*****es specifically for birds. The program first rolled out on a large scale in 2005 and has gotten mixed reviews ever since. Birds often spread new v***ses without showing signs of illness themselves, and as Guan notes, “You can’t v******te every chicken in every area where bird flu is likely to emerge.” In July, after H7N9 was found to be lethal to chickens, Chinese authorities rolled out H7N9 poultry v*****es; it’s still too early to assess their impact." I guess their v*****e did not work.

“V***ses don’t need visas or passports. They just travel.”

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Mar 20, 2020 04:44:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If you consider the "other end of the world flu" that came directly from china, all was needed was a rinse and repeat of precautions from the 2013 Bird Flu. That end of the world v***s had a 40 percent mortality rate. Before that, in 2002 was SARS.

The world was warned in 2013. China is a hotbed for creation of the next p******c. Flu v***ses can mutate anywhere. In 2015, an H5N2 flu strain broke out in the United States and spread throughout the country, requiring the slaughter of 48 million poultry. As described in Smithsonian Magazine; "But China is uniquely positioned to create a novel flu v***s that k**ls people. On Chinese farms, people, poultry and other livestock often live in close proximity. Pigs can be infected by both bird flu and human flu v***ses, becoming potent “mixing vessels” that allow genetic material from each to combine and possibly form new and deadly strains. The public’s taste for freshly k**led meat, and the conditions at live markets, create ample opportunity for humans to come in contact with these new mutations. In an effort to contain these infections and keep the poultry industry alive, Chinese officials have developed flu v*****es specifically for birds. The program first rolled out on a large scale in 2005 and has gotten mixed reviews ever since. Birds often spread new v***ses without showing signs of illness themselves, and as Guan notes, “You can’t v******te every chicken in every area where bird flu is likely to emerge.” In July, after H7N9 was found to be lethal to chickens, Chinese authorities rolled out H7N9 poultry v*****es; it’s still too early to assess their impact." I guess their v*****e did not work.

“V***ses don’t need visas or passports. They just travel.”
If you consider the "other end of the world f... (show quote)


I was here for those... Except SARS...

Precautions were taken...

None of them were as infectious as this variation...

It was only a matter of time, I agree... Which argues for a bit more pr********n... If anything the messaging could have been better... Though the MSM takes the lion's share of blame for that

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Mar 20, 2020 06:25:05   #
Gatsby
 
dtucker300 wrote:
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.
They must be running these C****-** infection mode... (show quote)


MATH CHECK

If there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s in Hubei province,

and If there are 60 million people living in Hubei province; then the infection rate is 0.135%, not 11%.

By the way: 11% of 60 million is 6.6 million

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Mar 20, 2020 08:30:34   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
dtucker300 wrote:
They must be running these C****-** infection models on the same computer they use to predict G****l W*****g.

CURL: C****-** In The U.S.: Doomsday Numbers Just Don’t Add Up
By Joseph Curl

Last week, when people in America used to leave their homes (remember that?), I was finishing up a big household project and stopped off at Lowe’s (every project I do requires at least 17 trips to the hardware store).


I walked in, wearing some scuzzy jeans and a paint-splotched CNN shirt (which I only wear for painting), grabbed a cart and then stopped to pick up a sanitizing wipe. I swabbed off my filthy hands and the cart handle (following a stern directive from my wife), and was getting ready to pick up my supplies.

Just then a realllly filthy workman rolled in. He saw me swabbing away, hesitated, then walked over and grabbed his own wipe. Now, this guy probably never even knew there was a sanitation station in the hardware store and certainly didn’t look like the kind of guy who’d ever used one before, but there he was — there we were.

And therein lies my point (I knew I’d get to one eventually): This ain’t China. We don’t eat bats. And even a grubby day laborer and a guy in a shirt Jackson Pollock might’ve worn will take a moment to clean their hands (and make sure, in this dangerous day, that he doesn’t pick up — or put down — any germs).

So for me, the numbers being bandied around just don’t make any sense.


The latest c****av***s, C****-**, is bad, but 150 million Americans infected? That is what Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting last week.

A recent projection from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had even more alarming numbers. Worst-case scenario, C****-** could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and k**l as many as 1.7 million Americans.


The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead.

Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.


C****-** was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1.

On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the v***s, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died, at least according to statistics released by China (figures that could well be cooked by officials there). The remainder were still active cases.

But if the numbers are accurate, that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected?

Again, look at the numbers. The v***s pounded China from December 1 through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the c*******t leaders’ claim).

In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero.

The spread of C****-** in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened.

But let’s go to Dr. Anthony F***i, the director of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for the final word.

“I think we really need to be careful with those kinds of predictions, because that’s based on a model,” Dr. F***i said at a congressional hearing last week of the projection that 150 million will be infected in the U.S. “All models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model … it’s unpredictable. So, testing now is not going to tell me how many cases you are going to have. What will tell you what you’re going to have will be how you respond to it with containment and mitigation,” he said.

Dr. F***i also said the breathless media tends to report on the higher end of ranges predicted by models. “Remember the model during the Ebola outbreak said you could have as many as a million [cases]. We didn’t have a million,” he said.

No, instead, two people died in the United States from Ebola in 2014. Both contracted the disease overseas. Two more contracted the disease in the United States — and both survived.

On Tuesday, the United States had 5,702 confirmed cases of C****-**, with 94 deaths (48 of those in Washington state alone). The numbers will undoubtedly go up — likely by a lot. But President Trump has taken swift action to cut off the influx of travelers from countries teeming with infection and on Monday laid out stringent new guidelines to halt the upward curve.

Americans appear to be taking the directives seriously. So, time will tell if it all works.

But 150 million infected? A million dead? Right now, those numbers just don’t seem to add up.

Let’s hope they never do.
They must be running these C****-** infection mode... (show quote)


Our lovely liberal media at work!

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Mar 20, 2020 08:31:13   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
susanblange wrote:
It looks like the Messiah is getting ready to present himself to the world. The C****av***s is pestilence. Next will come famine, which has already started. It will end with a sword, or war. Probably world war. Only the Messiah can save us. Those who truly convert to the religion of the Messiah will be saved and healed. Isaiah 6:10. "...lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed".


Amen, and amen!

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