zillaorange

Not within the States.

zillaorange

FOR ONCE, prove a claim !!!!!! Where'd you get the info Trump hires "hundreds" of i******s ?

okie don

" Papers Please".
Big Brother is watching you Lonewolf. Be careful.
You can get locked up for a speech or thought crime'.
No longer need to be a thief, murderer or rapist. (:-

moldyoldy

Lonewolf

Under current law you can be taken off the streets and end up at a black sight in another country with someone drilling holes in your kneecap, and Most likely never be heard of again!

zillaorange

Thank you, will read them all !

Lonewolf

zillaorange

Liked that did ya lone ? LOL

teabag09

The problem is that it is not mandatory to get the new ID. If you don't plan on flying or going into a Federal Building you won't need it. Mike

Lonewolf

there just getting their foot in the door once in they will expand it to everyone

zillaorange

Gotta go with you on this 1 lone.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

So that's what happened to you? Except the holes were drilled into your head. Black site? Very r****t of you.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Weird....spouting the Democrat playbook.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

I agree,
Five Reasons National is a bad thing
Reason #1: A national ID card system would not solve the problem that is inspiring it.

A national ID card system will not prevent terrorism. It would not have thwarted the September 11 hijackers, for example, many of whom reportedly had identification documents on them, and were in the country legally.

Terrorists and criminals will continue to be able to obtain -- by legal and illegal means -- the documents needed to get a government ID, such as birth certificates. Yes, these new documents will have data like digital fingerprints on them, but that won't prove real identity - just that the carrier has obtained what could easily be a fraudulent document.

And their creation would not justify the cost to American taxpayers, which according to the Social Security Administration would be at least $4 billion.It is an impractical and ineffective proposal - a simplistic and naïve attempt to use gee-whiz technology to solve complex social and economic problems.

Reason #2: An ID card system will lead to a slippery slope of surveillance and monitoring of citizens.

A national ID card system would not protect us from terrorism, but it would create a system of internal passports that would significantly diminish the freedom and privacy of law-abiding citizens.Once put in place, it is exceedingly unlikely that such a system would be restricted to its original purpose. Social Security numbers, for example, were originally intended to be used only to administer the retirement program. But that limit has been routinely ignored and steadily abandoned over the past 50 years. A national ID system would threaten the privacy that Americans have always enjoyed and gradually increase the control that government and business wields over everyday citizens.

Reason #3: A national ID card system would require creation of a database of all Americans

What happens when an ID card is stolen? What proof is used to decide who gets a card? A national ID would require a governmental database of every person in the U.S. containing continually updated identifying information. It would likely contain many errors, any one of which could render someone unemployable and possibly much worse until they get their ""file"" straightened out.And once that database was created, its use would almost certainly expand. Law enforcement and other government agencies would soon ask to link into it, while employers, landlords, credit agencies, mortgage brokers, direct mailers, landlords, private investigators, civil litigants, and a long list of other parties would begin seeking access, further eroding the privacy that Americans have always expected in their personal lives.

Reason #4: ID cards would function as "internal passports" that monitor citizens' movements

Americans have long had a visceral aversion to building a society in which the authorities could act like totalitarian sentries and demand ""your papers please!"" And that everyday intrusiveness would be conjoined with the full power of modern computer and database technology. When a police officer or security guard scans your ID card with his pocket bar-code reader, for example, will a permanent record be created of that check, including the time and your location? How long before office buildings, doctors' offices, gas stations, highway tolls, subways and buses incorporate the ID card into their security or payment systems for greater efficiency? The end result could be a nation where citizens' movements inside their own country are monitored and recorded through these ""internal passports.""

Reason #5: ID cards would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment

Rather than eliminating discrimination, as some have claimed, a national identity card would foster new forms of discrimination and harassment of anyone perceived as looking or sounding "foreign."That is what happened after Congress passed the Employer Sanctions provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1985: widespread discrimination against foreign-looking American workers, especially Asians and Hispanics. A 1990 General Accounting Office study found almost 20 percent of employers engaged in such practices. A national ID card would have the same effect on a massive scale, as Latinos, Asians, Caribbeans and other minorities became subject to ceaseless status and identity checks from police, banks, merchants and others. Failure to carry a national I.D. card would likely come to be viewed as a reason for search, detention or arrest of minorities. The stigma and humiliation of constantly having to prove that they are Americans or legal immigrants would weigh heavily on such groups.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Good points Jack.... More for us all to fume about and work to remove at the first sign that it is more bad, than any kind of remedy..