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Feb 19, 2020 11:50:49   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Do you believe a child with no money should have their food taken from them in the lunch line at school? Is that the right thing to do? Would you do that?




What is the core of the problem? don't bleeding heart me with some child that has no money....the parents Tom...it's the parents who should be having the money....no excuses on why they do not, we all have the same chances in life...saying that is not so is a lie.

and no, no it is not....they did that to my youngest over a dime..a freaking dime...they are the ones that did not send the account balance when it was low, I would toss a hundred bucks at it to spend as she wishes as an 8 yr old......they pulled her from line, told her she didn't have enough money in her account..and gave her a plain cheese sammich......my third daughter passing through that school, they have never been screwed out of that dime....what really pisses me off is...a paying lunch student gets a plain cheese sammich over a dime short......but free lunchers get the full on meal and seconds....cheese should be good enough for them....but it's not.

luckily my mother went and tore the lunch lady a new ass before I got there, she knows what I would have done in front of the entire school body...I would have had her job over that.

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Feb 19, 2020 11:52:33   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
You might as well suport the genocide of the poor and disabled and homeless amongst us because that's ware your thinkig will get us.
Especially with a f*****t like trump in power.
We actuality let employers like wal Mart pay workers so little they need food stamps,
1trillion spent in Afghanistan k*****g people and I doubt we even reamember why!




you created the beast that is walmart, so take that responsibilty........

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Feb 19, 2020 11:54:42   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Only a conservative could think that the poorest of Americans are taking food off the middle class table! When they v**e to send their Money to the top 1% hopeing it will create jobs. Might be faster keeping it at the bottom .
We can't take of our own but we spent a trillion k*****g people in Afghanistan for what.



nobody said they are taking food off my table......I am tired of going to work every day so I can put food on their table....cannot feed em'...don't breed em'

Not my job

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Feb 19, 2020 12:02:44   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Everybody has the capacity to help others in need. We always feel better when it is our choice to do so. We get fed a lot of propaganda that tells us the poor are stealing from us so that they become despised burdons. Children cannot find work and feed themselves. When I was a kid I was the oldest of 8 and I went hunting just about every day after school. I could buy a box of 22 shells for 50 cents then. We ate a lot of rabbits and quail.I was 4'11" and 102 lbs went I went into the service. The one thing that amazed me most was all the food and all the milk that was available. I am now 5'10" and weigh 240. ---
Everybody has the capacity to help others in need.... (show quote)


You didn't clarify what you meant by your " cork soaker " remark.

And I still don't feel responsible for feeding the kids of irresponsible parents.

I pay my taxes and that's all I'm obligated to do.

Any one who asks me for sustenance of any kind will surely receive what I can give.

But I don't feel obligated to go out and look for the hungry children of irresponsible parents.

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Feb 19, 2020 12:04:50   #
Lonewolf
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
nobody said they are taking food off my table......I am tired of going to work every day so I can put food on their table....cannot feed em'...don't breed em'

Not my job


Well let's starve them to death then

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Feb 19, 2020 12:10:52   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Well let's starve them to death then


Looks like your mammy starved you so bad that your brain didn't get a chance to develop.



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Feb 19, 2020 12:15:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Only a conservative could think that the poorest of Americans are taking food off the middle class table! When they v**e to send their Money to the top 1% hopeing it will create jobs. Might be faster keeping it at the bottom .
We can't take of our own but we spent a trillion k*****g people in Afghanistan for what.


I do not know any Conservative that believe the "poorest of Americans are taking food off the middle class table!" I laid out some of the issues associated with welfare and as yet, no one has addressed any of those concerns. Now we are into job creation. Interesting, how many poor people you know hire workers or loan money for start up businesses? Lastly, we can take care of our own, we can not take care of everyone who thinks they are entitled.

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Feb 19, 2020 12:20:10   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Well let's starve them to death then


This is beyond unsound thinking. Most Americans are heavier than they should be, but a U.S. Department of Agriculture study delving into National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey data from 2007 through 2010 found Americans on food stamps were more likely to be obese than other groups — including people who didn’t receive benefits even though they were poor enough to qualify.

Forty percent of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program beneficiaries were obese during those years, the study found, compared with 32 percent of poor people who didn’t get SNAP benefits and 30 percent of higher-income Americans.

So starving.....?????



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Feb 19, 2020 12:30:18   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
People have kids and mistreat them, treating them even worse than their dogs. It's wrong and a constant battle to help them. Never deny a hungry child a meal. In fact, feed the hungry as much as you can. But don't go thinking your better than anyone else because you did. It is just what we are supposed to do. I support free meals at schools although, there is nothing preventing us from intervening with the parents, in fact, it is an obligation if the parents are abusive. We can also admit that we need to stop having kids when we can't be responsible for them. Complicated issues which frustrate responsible adults the world over.

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Feb 19, 2020 13:18:14   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
There are times when everyone may need a hand up, a hand out, or support. I do not know anyone who will turn their backs on anyone, be it child, man, woman, or beast when they are in need. Having said that, there also comes a point when good intentions of simply providing temporary help becomes a way of life, expected, or even demanded. And there comes a time to stop promoting women who give birth to litters of children with the expectations that society is responsible for those babies and by extension the man who simply supplied sperm and the woman who took no precautions or preplanning in the event of pregnancy. Expecting to abort the baby is not an acceptable form of birth control. Living on charity affords no future.

Hand outs/up or support have to be temporary, but there are some who would rather relax with their X-box or engaging in other distractions than finding a job and keeping said job. If assistance becomes the past, present, and future expectation, the "provider" has to stop and consider whether they are solving the problem or are saps and enablers. Whether welfare strips people of p***e and self-respect. That raises interesting problems; how many years should the public be responsible for providing for adults or children, should the assistance be for our own citizens or be inclusive of the world, should there be a maximum on the number of life long dependent children and what to do about over reproduction in a family, if we are to expect some individuals to always live on charity, should we consider opening spay and neuter clinics to control that over population....and that opens a new can of worms.

I have no idea of what Jesus would do, he lived in another time under different circumstances. As far as I can determine, he never worked and lived off of charity. However, there is no place where it is implied that he was promiscuous or produced children with the expectation that they too should live on welfare. Same goes for his cousin, John the Baptizer, his brother John, or any of his disciples.
There are times when everyone may need a hand up, ... (show quote)


I have no idea of what Jesus would do, he lived in another time under different circumstances. As far as I can determine, he never worked and lived off of charity

Jesus was a carpenter
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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Feb 19, 2020 16:24:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Fodaoson wrote:
I have no idea of what Jesus would do, he lived in another time under different circumstances. As far as I can determine, he never worked and lived off of charity

Jesus was a carpenter
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.


Actually, Matthew 13 also reports the same story: 53 "When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54 Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. 55 “Isn’t this the tektōn’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” 57 And they took offense at him." Tektōn does not t***slate to "carpenter" but a more diverse laborer that includes stone work and carpenter. Notice, the verses are identical except the inclusion of the word "son". Which version is correct? If you study the "New" testament, there is no indication that he used his training to make or repair anything.

Yes, I have read those verses before, and still maintain that he did not work at a job, although he was probably trained as a tektōn.

Now that you tried to embarrass me, do you wish to discuss the other parts of the "New" testament that differ?

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Feb 19, 2020 16:28:41   #
American Vet
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Actually, Matthew 13 also reports the same story: 53 "When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54 Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. 55 “Isn’t this the tektōn’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” 57 And they took offense at him." Tektōn does not t***slate to "carpenter" but a more diverse laborer that includes stone work and carpenter. Notice, the verses are identical except the inclusion of the word "son". Which version is correct? If you study the "New" testament, there is no indication that he used his training to make or repair anything.

Yes, I have read those verses before, and still maintain that he did not work at a job, although he was probably trained as a tektōn.

Now that you tried to embarrass me, do you wish to discuss the other parts of the "New" testament that differ?
Actually, Matthew 13 also reports the same story: ... (show quote)


So what do you think He did till He began his ministry (at about ag 30 - 33)?

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Feb 19, 2020 16:31:14   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
American Vet wrote:
So what do you think He did till He began his ministry (at about ag 30 - 33)?


I have no idea......nor do I care.

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Feb 19, 2020 16:33:31   #
American Vet
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I have no idea......nor do I care.

"Yes, I have read those verses before, and still maintain that he did not work at a job"

Apparently you care enough to make a comment about it. It appears you didn't think it thru - but you made the comment.

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Feb 19, 2020 16:47:03   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Well let's starve them to death then




I see, you v**e to k**l them via a******n, is your way better?

You v**e Dem, so you are all for importing more i******s by the 10s of thousands a year that cannot feed the chidren they drop like gunny sacks at the water trough

I assure you, those 50lb overweight fat kids, with their Iphone10s are not starving to death.

And you have a problem with me not wanting to support your endless wave of children. ....the insanity you display is appalling at best.

I never had a problem with it.......then you and your ilkish liberals took it way out of bounds.......this is your fault, at every level.

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