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Feb 18, 2020 14:23:44   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
Um... What? Cognosco?

You allegedly spent years in seminary and don't know what ginosko means?

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Feb 18, 2020 14:24:59   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Maybe so, however, the "Word of God" might actually be contained within it's pages and within the pages of many "holy" books/writtings/oral histories/etc. However, accepted homosexuality is a part of none of their beginnings and has only recently become something that only a few of them accept.

Maybe the fact that homosexuality wasn’t even defined as a thing until the end of the 19th century, ya think?
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A Hindu writer once claimed that same sex lovers had loved each other in the past when they were of the opposite sex in previous lives. I found that one to be rather unique but fitting right in with the idea of reincarnation.

Christianity doesn’t believe in reincarnation, so there’s that.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:32:37   #
kemmer
 
Parky60 wrote:
You allegedly spent years in seminary and don't know what ginosko means?

I used the Latin which means almost the same thing.
We used the concordat, Greek/Latin. It was in “the old days” when our texts were in Latin or Koine.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:33:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Christianity doesn’t believe in reincarnation, so there’s that.


Taken as fact or not, homosexuality was well defined in the Dead Sea scrolls from WAY earlier than that. In the story of Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot offered his daughters to the men of the city to spare the male strangers he had taken in. They were angels according to the story. The men of the city declined the girls, preferring the men. Homosexuality was, indeed, well defined at least a few thousand years ago and rejected as wrong by virtually all religions.

And why center on Christianity?

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Feb 18, 2020 14:34:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Christianity doesn’t believe in reincarnation, so there’s that.


You really are missing the point kemmer.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:40:03   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Trump appears to have repented from any serial adultery as far as can be seen, but Mayor Pete remains in a gay marriage/gay relationship with no visible effort to repent or get forgiveness for it or to even try to avoid the homosexual relationship or marriage.

We don't really know about Trump now but Mayor Pete's ongoing life as a gay man in a gay marriage appears to be ongoing.


There are lots of people who have denounced the "gay lifestyle" and stopped behaving that way. Many have sought and gained Gods help to become opposite sex attracted, others have decided that they could not do that, so they have stopped having sex with anyone, since their attraction is against GOD's COMMANDMENTS. The kind of love God supports and celebrates with same sex people is the brotherly love which is NOT sexual attraction, but the love of friends who will sacrifice their lives for their friends.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:44:36   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
kemmer wrote:
Sure it does. How can anyone say how one is born is NOT OK?


No one is born same sex attracted any more than one is born attracted to sex with children, even though apparently the pagans considered that fine, and also believed that children should be murdered to appease their pagan gods.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:49:28   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Taken as fact or not, homosexuality was well defined in the Dead Sea scrolls from WAY earlier than that. In the story of Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot offered his daughters to the men of the city to spare the male strangers he had taken in. They were angels according to the story. The men of the city declined the girls, preferring the men. Homosexuality was, indeed, well defined at least a few thousand years ago and rejected as wrong by virtually all religions.

And why center on Christianity?
Taken as fact or not, homosexuality was well defin... (show quote)

Oh right! Good old Lot who pimped and then screwed his daughters, which was allegedly fine with God. Hogwash. All of it.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:53:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
There are lots of people who have denounced the "gay lifestyle" and stopped behaving that way. Many have sought and gained Gods help to become opposite sex attracted, others have decided that they could not do that, so they have stopped having sex with anyone, since their attraction is against GOD's COMMANDMENTS. The kind of love God supports and celebrates with same sex people is the brotherly love which is NOT sexual attraction, but the love of friends who will sacrifice their lives for their friends.
There are lots of people who have denounced the &q... (show quote)



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Feb 18, 2020 14:53:34   #
kemmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No one is born same sex attracted any more than one is born attracted to sex with children

I don’t think newborns are particularly attracted to anything but their mothers.

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Feb 18, 2020 14:54:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Oh right! Good old Lot who pimped and then screwed his daughters, which was allegedly fine with God. Hogwash. All of it.


Maybe so but it was clear about homosexuality. You claimed it wasn't even defined until when? 19th century?? LOL!

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Feb 18, 2020 14:56:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
I don’t think newborns are particularly attracted to anything but their mothers.


Your arguments are losing wt kemmer. Are you trying to justify that which you instinctively know is wrong??

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Feb 18, 2020 15:02:34   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Maybe so but it was clear about homosexuality. You claimed it wasn't even defined until when? 19th century?? LOL!

So you believe the whole male population of S&G were gay and were hot to get it on with a couple angels, so loving daddy Lot tossed his daughters out to them?
If they were all gay, what the hell would the crowd want with Lot’s daughters?
Jeez! That fable needs a rewrite.
The scripture scribes knew nothing of an immutable homosexual orientation—which was indeed defined in the 19th century.

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Feb 18, 2020 15:04:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
So you believe the whole male population of S&G were gay and were hot to get it on with a couple angels, so loving daddy Lot tossed his daughters out to them?
If they were all gay, what the hell would the crowd want with Lot’s daughters?
Jeez! That fable needs a rewrite.


Did I even IMPLY that the entire population of guys in S and G were gay? No, I don't think so. See kemmer, you can't think straight you are so filled with guilt!

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Feb 18, 2020 15:06:53   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Are you trying to justify that which you instinctively know is wrong??

I know nothing of the sort. I’m very happy with who I am and my gifts.

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