What the Political Leaders Dare Not Say About Pete Buttigieg (Page 10): I have a clue. Many boys who have been sexually abused by men go through a period when they believe that the...

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

kemmer wrote:

People cannot change their sexuality any more than they can change their blood type.
It's common for some men to finally accept the fact that they are gay; practically zero chance that gay men finally come to realize they are straight. Get a clue.

I have a clue. Many boys who have been sexually abused by men go through a period when they believe that the molester some how knew that the boy was same sex attracted, and there for was trying to help the boy accept that was his correct attraction. After healing from the sexual abuse the boys began to understand what the t***h was, not that the boy was same sex attracted but that he was manipulated into sex by a man who assaulted him. The healing often takes years as the boy is ashamed that he accepted the assaults.Anyone who works with sexual abuse victims understands how painful the healing can be and how long it can take to fully heal.

Singularity

no propaganda please wrote:

I have a clue. Many boys who have been sexually ab... (show quote)

I have learned that my childhood sexual abuse experience says more about the abuser than about myself. And that my life and achievement is more about me than anyone else. As a psychiatrist I learned my experience was a double edged sword. That I could not afford to fall into a possible trap of thinking my experience with victims and victimhood was all there was to relationships and sexuality. As our culture moves into a world where safe, self controlled gay men can mentor young boys (without " special benefits,") in a healthy way for all concerned perhaps young boys can explore without undue commitment and sort themselves out with less confusion.

And we can relax knowing the children are safer.

Singularity

Singularity wrote:

I haven't been aware that he talks about it much, if at all. Cetainly less than some! I'm not aware of his husbands name, for instance. I know all three of the Trump wives' names and much about his other sexual exploits that I'd like to not have to be privy too. If Mr and Mr Buttigieg just stay calm, maybe the rest of the folks could too. Maybe things are calming down and its become just an unremarkable fact. The way you want it.

Went searching. Wow!

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-anchor-says-not-discuss-trumps-personal-relationships-during-panel-discussion-pete-1487684

The news anchor claims we can't talk about Trump personal relationship in the same discussion as Buttegieg.

Apologies to your fee-fee-feelings, but. . . . No. It doesn't work like that!

Basically, implies that criticizing a homosexual spouse is nowhere near the same category as heterosexual personal relationships????

I gotta get some sleep. Night folks.

bggamers Loc: georgia

whitnebrat wrote:

It may surprise many of you, but I agree with everything in this quote. It's the people that quote Scripture as being the basis for their intolerance that I have the most problem with. They're entitled to their opinion, but when they force their beliefs down my throat that we have a problem. That includes legislating 'moral' behavior as well.

To each his own I say while we all go out and eat and be friends. One of my sons asked me when they were teens what I would do if they were gay told him I would love him anyway it was not a life style I approved of so please don't be to touchy touchy around me they all laughed but I feel one needs to be upfront with their kids it would just make me uncomfortable

Cuda2020

kemmer wrote:

Rich and famous is a lifestyle; gay and straight are immutable states of being, and we live the best we can accordingly. It's ridiculous to scream "sin, sin" because of what some people think God actually said. Leviticus wrote his stuff, but interestingly omitted the form: "This is what the Lord says...".
Leviticus also said shellfish and crustaceans were "a*********ns". Clam chowder? Crab louie? Hellbait.

I personally agree with you as a state of being, and in that context I have many times argued that exact point to no avail to the unbending, unyielding state of mind from the right, therefore...I considered a different approach may have been needed. If they believe it is a state of mind...very well, they still need to acknowledge a person's choice affecting his or her equal rights must allowed without their personal bias from their own religious beliefs. Equal rights is all of our constitutional law.

Cuda2020

bggamers wrote:

To each his own I say while we all go out and eat and be friends. One of my sons asked me when they were teens what I would do if they were gay told him I would love him anyway it was not a life style I approved of so please don't be to touchy touchy around me they all laughed but I feel one needs to be upfront with their kids it would just make me uncomfortable

Cuda2020

eagleye13 wrote:

"I’ve been attacked and ridiculed here on OPP for years for simply being gay." = kemmer
I wouldn't do that.
Some gays are quite intelligent, and v**e Republican.

Some have to be closet conservatives though,; as the Left is very intolerant.

Was that a joke? A closet conservative isn't fearing the gay embracing lefty, stop being so ridiculous, please you're k*****g me here... lmao

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

kemmer wrote:

Rich and famous is a lifestyle; gay and straight are immutable states of being, and we live the best we can accordingly. It's ridiculous to scream "sin, sin" because of what some people think God actually said. Leviticus wrote his stuff, but interestingly omitted the form: "This is what the Lord says...".
Leviticus also said shellfish and crustaceans were "a*********ns". Clam chowder? Crab louie? Hellbait.

Leviticus is the third book of the Pentateuch in the Bible, it contains the laws relating to priests and Levites. Moses is the author of the book.

The human state of being has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual orientations. We have spent so much time arguing about human rights that we ignore what it means to be human.

bggamers Loc: georgia

kemmer wrote:

Who would buy a used TV?

people that cant afford a new one

zillaorange

Singularity wrote:

Hi, Zillaorange!

I've been trying to extract foot from mouth on another thread just now! Mostly successful. I'm still teachable, maybe.🙈🙉🙊

LOL We'll work on it together !

Singularity

zillaorange wrote:

LOL We'll work on it together !

Why do I pronounce your name in my head with a French accent? I am not even fluent in French...

Singularity

bggamers wrote:

people that cant afford a new one

I have a 55 in Hitachi with an accidentally crumpled blemish on the bottom left corner of the speaker housing. It is about ten years old. Needed it before my eye surgery, now it takes up too much space.

zillaorange

Singularity wrote:

Why do I pronounce your name in my head with a French accent? I am not even fluent in French...

I don't know, Zilla's from Japan, & I'm from Brooklyn ???

Singularity

zillaorange wrote:

I don't know, Zilla's from Japan, & I'm from Brooklyn ???

There are two of you in there?

zillaorange

Singularity wrote:

There are two of you in there?

LOL Probably a few more !