Why Trump Had the Absolute Right to Boot Alex Vindman (Page 2): He was pleased to have them serve - until they failed to lie for him. You cannot make this look like anything other than...

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

fullspinzoo wrote:

Fools like Pelosi know that NSC employees like the Vindman Brothers and Sondland 'serve at the pleasure of the President', period. Shows you how out of touch some of these people are. https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/why-trump-was-absolutely-right-to-boot-alex-vindman/

He was pleased to have them serve - until they failed to lie for him. You cannot make this look like anything other than childish vindictiveness.

American Vet

woodguru wrote:

he (Vindman) actually simply complied with a subpoena and told the t***h

Wrong: He lied.

Vindman's job at the National Security Council is to write policy memos, schedule meetings and keep minutes of conversations with foreign diplomats. That's why he was on the July 25 call.

On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/11/18/vindmans_claims_dont_hold_up.html

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

lpnmajor wrote:

He was pleased to have them serve - until they failed to lie for him. You cannot make this look like anything other than childish vindictiveness.

Vindman lied for himself when he proclaimed that Trump "demanded" the Ukraine president investigate the Biden's. Look at the transcript of the call and tell me if you think a demand was made. Childish vindictiveness?? Really. It was this lie which he told to Schiff and the IG that started the whole charade. And just so you know, Vindman is not popular in military circles.

fullspinzoo

dtucker300 wrote:

He is Ukrainian himself.

Yeah, but what was weird about it Zelensky was made to sound like everything was OK. A couple of points 1) the whole 'get-Trump scenario started way before the July 25 phone call to Zelensky. 2) why did the Dems make such a big deal out of the timing of the payment..or the holdup when they v**ed against it anyway?

Liberty Tree

American Vet wrote:

Wrong: He lied. br br Vindman's job at the Nation... (show quote)

You know you are wasting your time presenting woodhead with facts. He is too filled with h**e.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

fullspinzoo wrote:

Yeah, but what was weird about it Zelensky was made to sound like everything was OK. A couple of points 1) the whole 'get-Trump scenario started way before the July 25 phone call to Zelensky. 2) why did the Dems make such a big deal out of the timing of the payment..or the holdup when they v**ed against it anyway?

True, the get Trump scenario started the moment he came down the escalator. As for the timing, they thought they could d**g this out into the e******n but it really didn't matter how they had v**ed.

fullspinzoo

nwtk2007 wrote:

True, the get Trump scenario started the moment he came down the escalator. As for the timing, they thought they could d**g this out into the e******n but it really didn't matter how they had v**ed.

They place so much importance on the phone call, like that got the whole thing going. But this was already in the works. And if they could put the NON-whistleblower under oath they would realize this for certain. Let's see what Sen. Graham ends up doing. He's been a lot of hot air (even though he backs Trump 100%)/ Let's see if he delivers.

American Vet

Liberty Tree wrote:

You know you are wasting your time presenting woodhead with facts. He is too filled with h**e.

Yeah: But when I post the facts, he shuts up......

fullspinzoo

American Vet wrote:

Yeah: But when I post the facts, he shuts up......

In a way, that's a good thing because they don't want to look like Loonfest or a total i***t. You know, I can't spell the word "where" but I have an important opinion that is really sensible. I know I'm at the 3rd grade level of intellect, but hear me out.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

fullspinzoo wrote:

They place so much importance on the phone call, like that got the whole thing going. But this was already in the works. And if they could put the NON-whistleblower under oath they would realize this for certain. Let's see what Sen. Graham ends up doing. He's been a lot of hot air (even though he backs Trump 100%)/ Let's see if he delivers.

Vindman was already privy to their efforts and when the phone call occurred it was just so opportunistic of him to make the claim Trump demanded and investigation in exchange for the military funding. I think Vindman took it too far in his claim, which they believed without even seeing the transcript of the call. they launched the whistle blower BS, commented on the complaint and then Trump released the transcript. I am sure they immediately went to Vindman and and asked for an explanation, thought they could drive with it and thus, continued the charade.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Graham to actually do something but who knows.

fullspinzoo

nwtk2007 wrote:

Vindman was already privy to their efforts and whe... (show quote)

Yeah, I with you on that. Have heard a lot of promises, but not much delivery. We shall ser....as they say.

Lonewolf

fullspinzoo wrote:

Fools like Pelosi know that NSC employees like the Vindman Brothers and Sondland 'serve at the pleasure of the President', period. Shows you how out of touch some of these people are. https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/why-trump-was-absolutely-right-to-boot-alex-vindman/

wrong again

bahmer

fullspinzoo wrote:

Fools like Pelosi know that NSC employees like the Vindman Brothers and Sondland 'serve at the pleasure of the President', period. Shows you how out of touch some of these people are. https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/why-trump-was-absolutely-right-to-boot-alex-vindman/

Amen and Amen

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

fullspinzoo wrote:

Fools like Pelosi know that NSC employees like the Vindman Brothers and Sondland 'serve at the pleasure of the President', period. Shows you how out of touch some of these people are. https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/why-trump-was-absolutely-right-to-boot-alex-vindman/

She had to be lying because POTUS can fire anybody for any or no reason. That Vindman (whichever it was) gave false testimony under oath is either a misdemeanor or felony so he was lucky to get off that lightly.

fullspinzoo

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

She had to be lying because POTUS can fire anybody for any or no reason. That Vindman (whichever it was) gave false testimony under oath is either a misdemeanor or felony so he was lucky to get off that lightly.

They all serve at the pleasure of the President. Like the line I hear the 'commissioner of NYC on 'Blue Bloods' say all the time.