We Could Get Along Really Well If We Could Simply Determine What The Facts Are
Feb 11, 2020 11:45:13 #
American Vet wrote:
"House Democrats dealt themselves several adv... (show quote)
That is correct. That is the grand jury version of impeachment. Just like a grand jury, no defense is allowed to present. That is for the trial phase-----which is what the Senate was supposed to do----present evidence of innocence or guilt. They blew this to high heaven----they had a chance to COMPLETELY exonorate Trump----but they passed on it. Why is that?
From Article 2, section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
That's all that it says....
Feb 11, 2020 11:49:26 #
Feb 11, 2020 12:08:10 #
Pariahjf wrote:
That is correct. That is the grand jury version o... (show quote)
They reviewed the evidence presented by the House - they had no requirement to do otherwise - and determined the President not guilty.
You may not like their end result - but that is just your personal preference.
Feb 11, 2020 12:24:04 #
American Vet wrote:
They reviewed the evidence presented by the House - they had no requirement to do otherwise - and determined the President not guilty.
You may not like their end result - but that is just your personal preference.
You may not like their end result - but that is just your personal preference.
That wasn't my preference-----censure was my preference, and I've said that was the best action from the start. I just believe that sense it did get to the Senate, it would only be fair for the American public to hear from as many people as possible to get an accurate picture of the t***h.
Feb 11, 2020 13:31:01 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Pariahjf wrote:
Then why wouldn't he let his staff testify and present evidence? If you are innocent, you want your day in court. Trump didn't. Smells to high heaven. Doesn't matter if he thought it was not right, his actions still stink. If it was you, wouldn't you present evidence on your innocence, or go straight to jail? I know it wasn't a trial from the House, but the trial was in the Senate. He had TWO chances to come clean. Most Americans only get ONE chance to come clean.
The argument about innocent people wanting their day in court doesn't fly. Innocent people get convicted all the time. Do you honestly think the h**ers, given all their lies about Trump, would not just twist anything he said during a testimony? Do you not think that the democrats would have fabricated unanswerable questions which imply criminality? And that with no objection apparatus in place??? Get real. The circus would have gone ballistic with their liars narrative!
Feb 11, 2020 13:41:03 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
The argument about innocent people wanting their day in court doesn't fly. Innocent people get convicted all the time. Do you honestly think the h**ers, given all their lies about Trump, would not just twist anything he said during a testimony? Do you not think that the democrats would have fabricated unanswerable questions which imply criminality? And that with no objection apparatus in place??? Get real. The circus would have gone ballistic with their liars narrative!
You believe that an innocent President would NOT testify to show his character? The GOP weren't going to impeach him anyways-----so what's the problem with the American people hearing the t***h from him?? Like it says----the t***h shall set you free....
Feb 11, 2020 14:15:41 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Pariahjf wrote:
You believe that an innocent President would NOT testify to show his character? The GOP weren't going to impeach him anyways-----so what's the problem with the American people hearing the t***h from him?? Like it says----the t***h shall set you free....
Trump testifying would have given Schiff and his band of i***ts legitimacy. They would have used twisted sound bites to make commercials, no matter hwo false they were, they would have fashioned questions to trap him, etc, etc. So, since it was guaranteed to have him acquitted anyway, why bother?? I actually think that in the end, had he testified, it would have gone bad for Schiff et al eventually but again, why gamble if you don't need to??
Feb 11, 2020 14:40:30 #
Pariahjf wrote:
You believe that an innocent President would NOT testify to show his character? The GOP weren't going to impeach him anyways-----so what's the problem with the American people hearing the t***h from him?? Like it says----the t***h shall set you free....
Did you quote that to schiff?
Feb 11, 2020 14:41:55 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Trump testifying would have given Schiff and his band of i***ts legitimacy. They would have used twisted sound bites to make commercials, no matter hwo false they were, they would have fashioned questions to trap him, etc, etc. So, since it was guaranteed to have him acquitted anyway, why bother?? I actually think that in the end, had he testified, it would have gone bad for Schiff et al eventually but again, why gamble if you don't need to??
Doesn't matter----the American public still deserved to hear it from him.
Feb 11, 2020 14:59:30 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Pariahjf wrote:
Doesn't matter----the American public still deserved to hear it from him.
The American people deserved to not to have been embarrassed by the lunacy of the democratic party's behavior!!
Feb 11, 2020 15:06:48 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
The American people deserved to not to have been embarrassed by the lunacy of the democratic party's behavior!!
We already know about their behavior-----we need to know about the president's behavior.
Feb 11, 2020 15:14:18 #
Pariahjf wrote:
We already know about their behavior-----we need to know about the president's behavior.
No problem: He's working for America: lowest unemployment rate in decades (especially minorities), energy independence, prison reform, MAGA....
Pretty good behaviors.
Feb 11, 2020 15:21:25 #
American Vet wrote:
No problem: He's working for America: lowest unemployment rate in decades (especially minorities), energy independence, prison reform, MAGA....
Pretty good behaviors.
Pretty good behaviors.
Those are results, not behaviors. Just saying...
Feb 11, 2020 15:42:54 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Pariahjf wrote:
Those are results, not behaviors. Just saying...
So what behaviors are you referring to, then?? He is certainly out there for all to see!
Feb 11, 2020 15:45:51 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
So what behaviors are you referring to, then?? He is certainly out there for all to see!
We ALL have behaviors when we are away from the public view.
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