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Jan 22, 2020 00:57:57   #
debeda
 
Lonewolf wrote:
we approved the aid the TRUMP administration should have saw that it was handed out trumps watch all the blame is on the greedy right



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Jan 22, 2020 00:58:31   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
They’ve been hiding and withholding relief food from Puerto Ricans. Why? To make Trump look bad!

https://youtu.be/rjJ7uQDop9I
https://youtu.be/CU5wNYrz1FI

This is despicable. L*****ts would rather have children starve, and go without diapers, than allow Trump to get any credit for anything. Unfortunately it seems to be their modus operandi! It’s the same tactic behind the current h**x impeachment!

These are the people of the Party who want to take charge of "taking care of everything for you"!!!

When will l*****t minions wake up!

How are the l*****ts going to spin this one? You know they will. No remorse, no accountability, no shame and no collective conscience...ideology over everything... blame it on someone else. They don't care who gets in their way: not only the unborn living human beings, but now even breathing human beings, ravaged by natural disaster! Life or death, they said, so they chose death to children in need. Can anyone get lower than all that?

This ought to be all it takes to cause people to walk away from l*****t politicians and their pseudo "I'll take care of you" ideology, which is just a front for controlling people's lives!

Their compassion, like their human decency, is all f**e!

I simply can't imagine anyone not being enraged at this!
They’ve been hiding and withholding relief food fr... (show quote)


I also posted something on this. It's D********G.

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Jan 22, 2020 01:00:47   #
debeda
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Was it a bunch of paper towels?


A warehouse full of water, diapers, wipes, cots, blankets, food, etc, etc. I also posted about this and there was a picture (blast from the past)

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Jan 22, 2020 01:02:11   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
I'm not saying conservatives don't have their evil people...I'm saying the left's immoral ideology openly breeds an immoral society. You certainly didn't denounce, or explain why or how it could be acceptable to withhold aid from children- still haven't.

The thing is, the l*****ts do things like this by policy. That is what the current impeachment sham (of made up crimes) boils down to, it is what they did with Kavanaugh, it is what they did with their lies that got Roe vs Wade passed by misrepresenting the facts, etc.: any means to further their ideology justifies the means to get there.

Repubs who use underhanded tactics for political gain are typically acting against the will and conscience of the collective right, and aren't honored by the Right for doing so. L*****ts seem to be honored by the more they can get away with, take Hillary for example, whom Comey literary stated had acted illegally, and then he and the left literally exonerated her and let her get away with it. Take Bernie and his very un-American socialism that is totally okay with Democrats as long as he's running under their Party. Take the unconscionable anti-semitism of Talib and Omar, you l*****ts are perfectly fine with their r****m as long as they are "Democrats".

The question is, what does one consider the lesser of two evils?

The main issue (politically speaking) of conservatives like me is supporting and defending the Constitution and the liberties and form of government it represents. I can overlook Trumps personal faults as long as he is striving to support and maintain the social framework that makes the USA what it is. Number one, for me, is that he supports and defends the lives of unborn human beings (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness applies here- for legitimate living human beings). Secondarily, he is (outwardly at least) resisting the g*******t encroachment upon American culture.

It seems to me the main issue of l*****ts is bigger centralized government (deceptively controlled by an elite few), conformity of humanistic, non-Christian values, etc., like eliminating free speech, curtailing rights to bear arms, infringing on and regulating our freedom to live our religious convictions openly (unless they infringe on others), forcing people to accept degenerate and destructive lifestyles as "normal", and etc, in other words, fundamentally dismantling everything good about our form of government.

For l*****ts, the (immoral) ends always seem to justify the means, as in this current case in Puerto Rico, thus appearing to me as being more of a modus operandi than an aberrant act of a lone bad actor.

For those of us on the right, at least for me, the ends and the means are the same- living upright, moral lives before God and mankind.

This makes choosing the lesser of two evils always easier for me, and always rules out anything the left has to offer.
I'm not saying conservatives don't have their evil... (show quote)


Terrific post, Tommy

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Jan 22, 2020 01:03:31   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Yep, and some conservatives, at least, are vocally opposed to Mitch blocking these, for example:
https://conservative-daily.com/2017/12/13/mitch-mcconnell-continues-blocking-conservative-bills-dems-win-alabama/

We conservatives have a name for our poor-performing politicians: RINO's.

So where are the liberal MSM sites that are renouncing the Democratic-controlled lack of distribution of food, etc for the children of Puerto Rico? And this by a Democrat Governor who decried the situation as life or death?

Show me which of those 400 bills is literally blocking a warehouse full of food, that is literally in the neighborhood of starving children, and sure, I'll get outraged about that right along with you. But when we have bills that have pork in them along with important things, then it gets a little more touchy about which bills should be passed or not. Perhaps the concept "we have to pass the bill to see what's in it" just doesn't sit well with everyone. I'm not making excuses or justifying McConnell's inactions, I'm just saying there is no moral equivalency in "sitting on bills" with "literally withholding available and dedicated food from starving children."

If you can't see that, it isn't me that needs to wake up.

When l*****ts in the House can't even allow bringing a bill to the table to protect newborn children, and those same l*****ts, as Party policy, always v**e in support of murdering unborn living human beings through a******n, it isn't me that needs to wake up.

When l*****ts want everyone in the country to call biological men or women by pronouns that don't match their c********es, even so far as making it illegal to do so if someone doesn't want to be called by a pronoun that matches their c********es, it isn't me that needs to wake up. You do realize that if every human on this planet were to immediately change to being homosexual, then humanity would perish in one generation, don't you? You do realize that every living human being on this planet was procreated from one male parent and one female parent, don't you? Thus making the union of one man and one woman the absolute, and most obvious and proven, basic building block of human civilization, which biological fact l*****ts want to relegate to the ashcan of history. And you tell me I need to wake up?

When l*****ts claim the only acceptable "freedom of speech" is speech that they explicitly approve of, it isn't me that needs to wake up.

When l*****ts want to allow everyone in the world into America, and provide them with free food, housing and healthcare, when we can't take care of our own, then it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts champion, or even tolerate, avowed socialists as legitimate members of their Party, it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts champion emptying our prisons at the same time they are disarming law abiding citizens, it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts want to give v****g privileges to convicted felons, even murderers, it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts want everyone categorized by their DNA, it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts demand that companies hire a certain quota of people based on sex or race and not based on character and/or abilities, it isn't me who needs to wake up.

When l*****ts treat the God-given "rights" of the people, that are recognized, protected, and enshrined in the Constitution of the United States of America, as if they are government-controlled "privileges" that they and their politicians have the power to infringe upon with impunity, or negate completely when they are sworn into an office wherein they are literally sworn to uphold them, then it surely isn't me who needs to wake up.
Yep, and some conservatives, at least, are vocally... (show quote)


You're on a roll, Tommy! AGREED

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Jan 22, 2020 12:12:46   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
debeda wrote:
You're on a roll, Tommy! AGREED


Thank you Debeda

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Jan 22, 2020 17:47:17   #
JediKnight
 
Distracting from the primary topic is equivalent to spreading "f**e news" - you should stop it.

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Jan 22, 2020 18:13:22   #
woodguru
 
TommyRadd wrote:
They’ve been hiding and withholding relief food from Puerto Ricans. Why? To make Trump look bad!

https://youtu.be/rjJ7uQDop9I
https://youtu.be/CU5wNYrz1FI

This is despicable. L*****ts would rather have children starve, and go without diapers, than allow Trump to get any credit for anything. Unfortunately it seems to be their modus operandi! It’s the same tactic behind the current h**x impeachment!

These are the people of the Party who want to take charge of "taking care of everything for you"!!!

When will l*****t minions wake up!

How are the l*****ts going to spin this one? You know they will. No remorse, no accountability, no shame and no collective conscience...ideology over everything... blame it on someone else. They don't care who gets in their way: not only the unborn living human beings, but now even breathing human beings, ravaged by natural disaster! Life or death, they said, so they chose death to children in need. Can anyone get lower than all that?

This ought to be all it takes to cause people to walk away from l*****t politicians and their pseudo "I'll take care of you" ideology, which is just a front for controlling people's lives!

Their compassion, like their human decency, is all f**e!

I simply can't imagine anyone not being enraged at this!
They’ve been hiding and withholding relief food fr... (show quote)


This mole hill cannot be made into the mountain that tens of billions makes that has still not been used in Puerto Rico. All the other funding has been used here on the mainland..

The fact is that trump has a personal attitude toward Puerto Rico and their people, he has delayed the works in terms of funding that has been allocated for Puerto Rico. He is as much in violation of the Impoundment Act as he was with Ukraine aid.

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Jan 22, 2020 18:29:30   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
This mole hill cannot be made into the mountain that tens of billions makes that has still not been used in Puerto Rico. All the other funding has been used here on the mainland..

The fact is that trump has a personal attitude toward Puerto Rico and their people, he has delayed the works in terms of funding that has been allocated for Puerto Rico. He is as much in violation of the Impoundment Act as he was with Ukraine aid.



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Jan 23, 2020 08:21:02   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
JediKnight wrote:
Distracting from the primary topic is equivalent to spreading "f**e news" - you should stop it...


I h**e to use a cliche, but, you started it when you deviated from the OP with your comment: "...Just like the nearly 400 bills the House has passed and continue to sit on McConnell's desk....while republicans constantly scream "the do nothing democrats"......wake up man!"

So you just condemned your own post as "f**e news".

Your inability to see how things tie together is one of the problems with l*****ts: they don't see the symptoms of their disease as part of a whole. It's like they are looking at a single blister on someone with chicken pox and thinking the other blisters are unrelated. This is what allows Marxist l*****ts to believe all the historic failures of Marxism are unrelated to their latest, new or individual view of its promise of utopia, which will, just like previous ones, always end in failure. The reality is, you can't separate the sum of the symptoms of leftism, and that is why those shortcomings I listed, among others, must remain part of the conversation.

On the other hand, we Conservatives on the right understand the shortcomings of the right, and human beings in general, and take steps to keep them in check. This is because we have a Christian-based view of mankind's propensity to commit evil. That is why we have a form of government with checks and balances that, in particular, does not give ultimate power to those in government. We know better than to trust ourselves, or our government, and so we have put in place a system of, not only checks and balances, but accountability. It wasn't the left that gave this world the Constitution of the U.S., but it is most definitely the left that wants to dismantle it and relegate it to the ash bins of history.

Marxists, in contrast to moral conservatives, use deceit to fool the populace into believing the minority in power are merely comrades and equals with the populace, when nothing could be further from the t***h. This is why l*****t's politicians erroneously preach that having the government control everything is the will of the people. And the l*****t's unreasonable view of human nature makes them all think that such a form of government can somehow mystically t***sform individually immoral individuals into a collectively moral society, which is a pipe dream.

So again, it isn't me who needs to wake up. And that was the point of my post to you: to get you to take your own advice and wake up.

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Jan 23, 2020 10:19:24   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
I h**e to use a cliche, but, you started it when you deviated from the OP with your comment: "...Just like the nearly 400 bills the House has passed and continue to sit on McConnell's desk....while republicans constantly scream "the do nothing democrats"......wake up man!"

So you just condemned your own post as "f**e news".

Your inability to see how things tie together is one of the problems with l*****ts: they don't see the symptoms of their disease as part of a whole. It's like they are looking at a single blister on someone with chicken pox and thinking the other blisters are unrelated. This is what allows Marxist l*****ts to believe all the historic failures of Marxism are unrelated to their latest, new or individual view of its promise of utopia, which will, just like previous ones, always end in failure. The reality is, you can't separate the sum of the symptoms of leftism, and that is why those shortcomings I listed, among others, must remain part of the conversation.

On the other hand, we Conservatives on the right understand the shortcomings of the right, and human beings in general, and take steps to keep them in check. This is because we have a Christian-based view of mankind's propensity to commit evil. That is why we have a form of government with checks and balances that, in particular, does not give ultimate power to those in government. We know better than to trust ourselves, or our government, and so we have put in place a system of, not only checks and balances, but accountability. It wasn't the left that gave this world the Constitution of the U.S., but it is most definitely the left that wants to dismantle it and relegate it to the ash bins of history.

Marxists, in contrast to moral conservatives, use deceit to fool the populace into believing the minority in power are merely comrades and equals with the populace, when nothing could be further from the t***h. This is why l*****t's politicians erroneously preach that having the government control everything is the will of the people. And the l*****t's unreasonable view of human nature makes them all think that such a form of government can somehow mystically t***sform individually immoral individuals into a collectively moral society, which is a pipe dream.

So again, it isn't me who needs to wake up. And that was the point of my post to you: to get you to take your own advice and wake up.
I h**e to use a cliche, but, you started it when y... (show quote)


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Jan 23, 2020 14:06:33   #
JediKnight
 
woodguru wrote:
This mole hill cannot be made into the mountain that tens of billions makes that has still not been used in Puerto Rico. All the other funding has been used here on the mainland..

The fact is that trump has a personal attitude toward Puerto Rico and their people, he has delayed the works in terms of funding that has been allocated for Puerto Rico. He is as much in violation of the Impoundment Act as he was with Ukraine aid.


Woodguru speaketh much t***h....

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Jan 23, 2020 14:09:02   #
JediKnight
 
Actually, the nearly 400 bills sitting on McConnell's desk is a reality....so therefore I did not post f**e news as your f**e president continually says "the Do-Nothing Democrats" - when its the republicans holding up meaningful legislation. Please try to keep up, or perhaps a course in "English Comprehension" is in order for you.....just a thought.

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Jan 23, 2020 14:10:33   #
JediKnight
 
debeda wrote:
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You seem very quick to jump on the bandwagon of those who apparently think they have all the answers. Perhaps you should consider reading the post they are responding too before simply agreeing with them because they are on the right....just a thought.

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Jan 23, 2020 14:26:18   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
JediKnight wrote:
Actually, the nearly 400 bills sitting on McConnell's desk is a reality....so therefore I did not post f**e news as your f**e president continually says "the Do-Nothing Democrats" - when its the republicans holding up meaningful legislation. Please try to keep up, or perhaps a course in "English Comprehension" is in order for you.....just a thought.


Incredibly, you missed your own point.


JediKnight wrote:
“Distracting from the primary topic is equivalent to spreading "f**e news" - you should stop it...”

You:

F**e news = Distracting from the primary topic


Primary topic is: Puerto Rican Democrats withholding aid from needy children.


Back to you, deviating from primary topic: "...Just like the nearly 400 bills the House has passed and continue to sit on McConnell's desk....while republicans constantly scream "the do nothing democrats"......wake up man!"

me, again: So you just condemned your own post as "f**e news" (according to your own definition).

you (paraphrased): ”Tommy doesn’t understand what I wrote nor does anyone who agrees with him.”

You made the definition that deviating from the primary topic is equivalent to f**e news. And now you won’t own up to it.

This is the typical double standards I’ve experienced with l*****ts.

When words have no meaning, conversation is pointless.

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