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Are You Paying Attention To The Court's Case To Completely End The ACA?
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Jan 18, 2020 19:01:26   #
woodguru
 
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.

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Jan 18, 2020 19:20:14   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.
So it's in the court system, and those defending t... (show quote)

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The ACA was illegal, and should have been corrected during the Obama administration.

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Jan 18, 2020 19:31:02   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Funny How All The Democrats Are Railing About How Awful The Healthcare System Is
When They Are Solely Responsible For How It Is Now Under The ACA
Yet We Are To Believe They Are Again
The Right Ones To 'Fix' It

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Jan 18, 2020 19:52:49   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.
So it's in the court system, and those defending t... (show quote)


This is what should be done about Obammycare.



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Jan 18, 2020 20:42:00   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
woodguru wrote:
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.
So it's in the court system, and those defending t... (show quote)


Don't the poor that cannot afford healthcare, have healthcare?
Instead of the federal government overseeing ACA , Federal Grants go to the states to oversee Medicaid as they did before ACA.
During my career I lived in 7 states, all had sliding scale healthcare for lower income not qualifing for free medicare and they still have sliding scale.
The only thing I see Americans losing is the bloated cost of the federal government hands in the mix and a program that was designed to fail for the agenda of a system mirroring Canada's system...
Jack

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Jan 18, 2020 21:05:31   #
Liberty Tree
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Don't the poor that cannot afford healthcare, have healthcare?
Instead of the federal government overseeing ACA , Federal Grants go to the states to oversee Medicaid as they did before ACA.
During my career I lived in 7 states, all had sliding scale healthcare for lower income not qualifing for free medicare and they still have sliding scale.
The only thing I see Americans losing is the bloated cost of the federal government hands in the mix and a program that was designed to fail for the agenda of a system mirroring Canada's system...
Jack
Don't the poor that cannot afford healthcare, hav... (show quote)


Not having health insurance is not the same as not having healthcare.

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Jan 18, 2020 22:38:12   #
Abel
 
IMHO: Everyone talks about ACA, an insurance program, and a damned poor one. Why not go after the root of the problem, the cost of health care. If the cost of health care was brought down, the insurance companies would not have to pay so much and the cost of insurance would go down.

The runaway costs in health care are caused by the people that believe that they should be able to get elective surgery and have others pay for it as well as going to doctors and emergency rooms, and believing Big Pharma and Big Medicine are their friends. We are propagandized constantly on MSM that we may be sick and have to have a doctors advice and some off the wall drug for every little thing. Take care of yourself and tough out the small items. President Trump should go after the abuses of Medicaid and Medicare, phase a lot of the medical costs down, and let the insurance companies handle the rest. He should also phase out the 501c3 tax break that so many charities and churches abuse.

As far as preconditions, insurance people know that these people are at higher risk of needing help, so they should raise their premiums a percentage to cover the risk rather than the socialist method of "spreading the costs" among the taxpayers. There is no reason that I should have to pay for someone to have an elective surgery like a face lift, or a s*x c****e, or breast enhancements, or etc. If they want a change, it is their e******n to get it or not, so let them pay for that change; if it costs too much, get a piggy bank and save up for it, don't just suck harder on the government teat! Elective surgeries are one hell of a lucrative cash cow for doctors, and the costs of hospitals could be brought way down if the Progressives would quit giving unconstitutional health care benefits to i*****l m*****ts.

Big Pharma and Big Medical are major problems in this country, and they continually research for new medicines to attack the symptoms of problems, but after many, many decades of research, they can't cure a common cold, which is mainly because it would adversely effect their profits! Think of all the empty shelves in your local drug store if they found cures for these little things. About the only thing I can think of that they have cured is polio, and that was only because Dr. Salk got it through before Big Pharma could k**l it in the patent office. Sometimes I wonder if their research doesn't purposely lead to new diseases they can release on the public in order to have some drug that relieves the symptoms to sell. Listen sometime to their disclaimers on most of their poisons if you can hear and understand them at the extremely high speed of their ad reader, or their super fine print that you have to have a magnifying glass to read and a law degree to understand.

It appears to me that they want to keep you well enough to work and have money to buy their products, and just sick enough to think you need them. If my wife hadn't gone through our wonderful medical system's "slash, poison, and burn" treatments for a non-malignant lump they discovered in her breast about 12 years ago, she would probably would be alive today.

Of course the Democrats campaign on giving less wealthy people everything under the sun, but when the poor democrats get them v**ed in, they just ask "who the hell are you?" The less wealthy have been v****g for Democrats for many, many decades to better themselves, and in spite of all the Democrat propaganda that they will take care of them, they're still poor! Isn't socialism wonderful?! Freedom isn't free, it's paid for by honest taxpayers and the blood of patriots!

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Jan 19, 2020 00:15:26   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Not having health insurance is not the same as not having healthcare.



Hows that? Free medication, any required or necessary surgical procedures and emergency room care for the flu. Medicaid recipients have primary care doctors, referred to specialist.
Not having health insurance does not prevent those on the ACA roles from having healthcare if it were dissolved today.

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Jan 19, 2020 07:21:03   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
This is what should be done about Obammycare.


👍👍👍👍

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Jan 19, 2020 07:54:15   #
Bosty Loc: South jersey
 
Abel wrote:
IMHO: Everyone talks about ACA, an insurance program, and a damned poor one. Why not go after the root of the problem, the cost of health care. If the cost of health care was brought down, the insurance companies would not have to pay so much and the cost of insurance would go down.

The runaway costs in health care are caused by the people that believe that they should be able to get elective surgery and have others pay for it as well as going to doctors and emergency rooms, and believing Big Pharma and Big Medicine are their friends. We are propagandized constantly on MSM that we may be sick and have to have a doctors advice and some off the wall drug for every little thing. Take care of yourself and tough out the small items. President Trump should go after the abuses of Medicaid and Medicare, phase a lot of the medical costs down, and let the insurance companies handle the rest. He should also phase out the 501c3 tax break that so many charities and churches abuse.

As far as preconditions, insurance people know that these people are at higher risk of needing help, so they should raise their premiums a percentage to cover the risk rather than the socialist method of "spreading the costs" among the taxpayers. There is no reason that I should have to pay for someone to have an elective surgery like a face lift, or a s*x c****e, or breast enhancements, or etc. If they want a change, it is their e******n to get it or not, so let them pay for that change; if it costs too much, get a piggy bank and save up for it, don't just suck harder on the government teat! Elective surgeries are one hell of a lucrative cash cow for doctors, and the costs of hospitals could be brought way down if the Progressives would quit giving unconstitutional health care benefits to i*****l m*****ts.

Big Pharma and Big Medical are major problems in this country, and they continually research for new medicines to attack the symptoms of problems, but after many, many decades of research, they can't cure a common cold, which is mainly because it would adversely effect their profits! Think of all the empty shelves in your local drug store if they found cures for these little things. About the only thing I can think of that they have cured is polio, and that was only because Dr. Salk got it through before Big Pharma could k**l it in the patent office. Sometimes I wonder if their research doesn't purposely lead to new diseases they can release on the public in order to have some drug that relieves the symptoms to sell. Listen sometime to their disclaimers on most of their poisons if you can hear and understand them at the extremely high speed of their ad reader, or their super fine print that you have to have a magnifying glass to read and a law degree to understand.

It appears to me that they want to keep you well enough to work and have money to buy their products, and just sick enough to think you need them. If my wife hadn't gone through our wonderful medical system's "slash, poison, and burn" treatments for a non-malignant lump they discovered in her breast about 12 years ago, she would probably would be alive today.

Of course the Democrats campaign on giving less wealthy people everything under the sun, but when the poor democrats get them v**ed in, they just ask "who the hell are you?" The less wealthy have been v****g for Democrats for many, many decades to better themselves, and in spite of all the Democrat propaganda that they will take care of them, they're still poor! Isn't socialism wonderful?! Freedom isn't free, it's paid for by honest taxpayers and the blood of patriots!
IMHO: Everyone talks about ACA, an insurance progr... (show quote)


I love this guy!!!

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Jan 19, 2020 08:17:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
woodguru wrote:
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.
So it's in the court system, and those defending t... (show quote)


Say what you wish the ACA saved nothing for anyone..
Most had and paid for their coverage and treated with chosen Drs they liked.,,

The crux was to insure the 20 million supposed uninsured.. If that was the real issue then perhaps BO should have concentrated on coverage for them rather than forcing the entire country into some supposed tax issue< thanks Roberts> and screwing over the citizens of this great nation that were responsible enough to have insurance.. Even more so going after the crooks fleecing the system from Medicare down to hospitals and Drs overcharging etc..

There is always a better way when a little thought is put into it .. And certain not utilizing the same industry that was greedy, and did nothing to mitigate the real issues other than increase premiums for necessary care~~ pre~existing or not..

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Jan 19, 2020 08:43:40   #
Big Kahuna
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The ACA was illegal, and should have been corrected during the Obama administration.


Yes, if Roberts wasn't such a wimp.

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Jan 19, 2020 08:44:51   #
Big Kahuna
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
This is what should be done about Obammycare.


Amen to that.

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Jan 19, 2020 10:29:04   #
TrueAmerican
 
woodguru wrote:
So it's in the court system, and those defending the ACA said hey, let's go to the Supreme Court now that it's been through appeals. The ACA, wh**ever you think of it has aspects that are allowing tens of millions to have healthcare that will lose it, the most obvious being those with pre existing conditions.

Republicans do not want this played out in the supreme court before the e******n, it is an e******n k**ler for them...meanwhile republicans including trump maintain that they are all about keeping pre existing conditions, while as soon as trump is elected ending it will be in the supreme court.

Republicans could if they wanted to come up with a better system draft it, run it through the CBO and GAO for analysis, beat it up, do the debates needed for the public to be able to see if it really is better, and if they really could come up with a better system it would pass the way it should, with full t***sparency and disclosures...which by the way is how tax cuts should have been done instead of the mess we have.

Anybody ignorant enough to v**e for trump thinking he is about protecting healthcare deserves this fool and the harm he is doing to people, but the rest of america does not.
So it's in the court system, and those defending t... (show quote)


Hope it succeeds in becoming extinct, one of the worse things to ever happen to America. Created by a Kenyan to destroy us !!!!!!

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Jan 19, 2020 10:29:58   #
TrueAmerican
 
karpenter wrote:
Funny How All The Democrats Are Railing About How Awful The Healthcare System Is
When They Are Solely Responsible For How It Is Now Under The ACA
Yet We Are To Believe They Are Again
The Right Ones To 'Fix' It


Totally ludicrous isn't it !!!!!!

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