padremike wrote:
You said,
"I hope this doesn't offend you too much. I'm not trying to insult those who served, like I said I have great admiration for those who put themselves in harms way thinking they're fighting for their country. I just don't think they realize how they're being used or how unrelated their efforts really are to American freedom. Most times, I just don't have the heart to break it to them."
How arrogant!
Nah, I think it's just a perspective that offends you.
padremike wrote:
I retired from the military 41 years ago. When someone thanks me for my service it embarrasses me. It embarrasses me because regardless of the hardships military members and their families endure IT WAS AN HONOR, my honor TO SERVE. I don't
need affirmation.
Well, that's good! I never suggested you needed any affirmation. I just said I can't find any reason to thank you for serving, that's all. So if you don't need affirmation then we're good, right?
padremike wrote:
And you don't have the heart to tell us we were used.
Well, it's a touchy subject. I mean these kids are putting their lives on the line for something they think is worth dying for and it's not like they can change their mind. So what - I'm just going to tell them their wrong?
padremike wrote:
Where I feel used is because I did not serve so that Progressive philosophy and agenda could force feed the d********g immorality they believe are Rights and their efforts to use our Constitution against us.
You're 100% correct. You're service had nothing to do with the political freedom that you think progressives are abusing. Those freedoms were already there before you came along and at no point in your lifetime have they ever been threatened by outside forces. It's a shame you think THAT's what you were being used for.
So, you retired 41 years ago... so 1979... Were you in Vietnam?
padremike wrote:
I remember you said, not long ago, that it "rocks" to be you. I wondered at the time what you have done with your life that makes you so special to yourself.
If I remember correctly, I was responding to an insult when I said it rocks to be me but it basically means I am happy with who I am and the life I made for myself, that's all.
padremike wrote:
If you ever want know the cost of your freedom visit a VA or military hospital.
Well, I wouldn't call that the cost of my freedom - it's more like an unknowing sacrifice to commercial empires that have nothing to do with my freedom.
Look, we're not going to agree on this one. I wasn't born yesterday... I know WTF I am talking about. It's an uneasy discussion BECAUSE of the sacrifices people make in the military. So it's almost impossible to bring up the ugly t***h of the matter without some degree of insensitivity. I'm only doing this with you because I am an anonymous blip in the Internet to you so I doubt your going to lose any sleep over what I have to say.
What I CAN say is that I sympathize with those who have suffered in the line of duty and I am a strong advocate of better VA services, I also admire the courage of those who serve and though I don't buy the whole "defending my freedom" thing I do realize that this is exactly what these young men and women are thinking when they jump into harms way and for that I appreciate what they are willing to do for all of us.
So let's just leave it at that, ok?