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Jan 13, 2020 17:32:43   #
woodguru
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
And those are Trumps fault I guess? Of course they are.

They are not trump's fault, but the GOP is back to pushing for privatization of the USPS, they had a tough enough time during Obama's administration when they had control of the house and senate, now they would need to rely on executive actions and further undermining their operations budgets.

The post office is too big and important to fail, so it would be the perfect entity to privatize, rates would go up and up like pharmaceutical companies jack drug prices.

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Jan 13, 2020 17:33:52   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Of course your source wouldn't be reflecting the GOP bias, would it? The GOP destroys agencies and they come up with rhetorical arguments that are just not true...

...then when someone tries to make the point that a war of attrition with actively doing everything possible to make the post office fail, they report on how bad the post office is doing. It isn't just about a story on how bad the post office is doing, go back and find out why, because when you defund the crap out of operations budgets they are going to do poorly.
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Yet you are unable to see your side does the same thing.....that's where your problem is, i can admit when my side does stupid s**t, you would eat your sides pile to hide it. .......fix that bias woody.

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Jan 13, 2020 17:35:20   #
Lonewolf
 
woodguru wrote:
Of course your source wouldn't be reflecting the GOP bias, would it? The GOP destroys agencies and they come up with rhetorical arguments that are just not true...

...then when someone tries to make the point that a war of attrition with actively doing everything possible to make the post office fail, they report on how bad the post office is doing. It isn't just about a story on how bad the post office is doing, go back and find out why, because when you defund the crap out of operations budgets they are going to do poorly.
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thats exactly what they done to the ACA

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Jan 13, 2020 17:44:57   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
They are not trump's fault, but the GOP is back to pushing for privatization of the USPS, they had a tough enough time during Obama's administration when they had control of the house and senate, now they would need to rely on executive actions and further undermining their operations budgets.

The post office is too big and important to fail, so it would be the perfect entity to privatize, rates would go up and up like pharmaceutical companies jack drug prices.




There it is right there. ....too big and important to fail. ...no such thing, it is trying to die, why prolong the end to the tune of Billions.....when the funds could be used elsewhere.

The governmenet has never made a budget, a schedule or anything profitable. ......the free market does or they are gone.

Self sustain or bust....well, they have been busted for decades, and not doe to a damn thing some Republican did.

Stop that stupid crap, or i will put you in the lone wolf, air force one bin. .........

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Jan 13, 2020 17:46:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
You are falling into a trap of using conservative rhetorical language that is moronic, h**e being associated to things it has nothing to do with. Trump doesn't h**e the post office, neither does the GOP that has been gunning for the post office for decades. They want it privatized, they want everything privatized so wealthy people can rip the government off for more money.

The GOP has been at war with the postal service and the way it's run, they have blocked good ideas to make it more cost effective and efficient, and they have imposed crippling penalties and forced procedures that make it less efficient, more expensive. The GOP sees any way they can make the postal service look bad as a reason to open it to privatization, which would be an unadulterated disaster of a circle jerk. The cost of administration alone would go through the roof, and shortcuts and cost escalations on postage rates would be the rule of the day.
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Really, dude, your perspective and opinions are so twisted they are pathological. Two corporate giants, UPS and FedEx, have reduced USPS package shipping to a dribble. Why? They are efficient and cost effective.

It is truly amusing to read the crap you are willing to write in order to convince everyone, yourself included, that you are the guru of all possible knowledge. What can you expect from a brainwashed l*****t prog? You should appeal to your nanny, see if she can wean you off the CNN pablum.

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Jan 13, 2020 18:07:32   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Really, dude, your perspective and opinions are so twisted they are pathological. Two corporate giants, UPS and FedEx, have reduced USPS package shipping to a dribble. Why? They are efficient and cost effective.

It is truly amusing to read the crap you are willing to write in order to convince everyone, yourself included, that you are the guru of all possible knowledge. What can you expect from a brainwashed l*****t prog? You should appeal to your nanny, see if she can wean you off the CNN pablum.
Really, dude, your perspective and opinions are so... (show quote)




Woody does make a few points worth looking into, i do not agree with most of what he says concerning this topic.....

You are correct in that the unsustainable post office cannot compete with fedex and ups.........the post office will never be efficient. .....that is the downfall, without that there will never be a Proffitt.

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Jan 14, 2020 05:20:06   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
Of course your source wouldn't be reflecting the GOP bias, would it? The GOP destroys agencies and they come up with rhetorical arguments that are just not true...

...then when someone tries to make the point that a war of attrition with actively doing everything possible to make the post office fail, they report on how bad the post office is doing. It isn't just about a story on how bad the post office is doing, go back and find out why, because when you defund the crap out of operations budgets they are going to do poorly.
Of course your source wouldn't be reflecting the G... (show quote)


I have looked at the USPS for years; they are failing because they are horribly mismanaged, bloated, and are simply another government bureaucracy that needs to be revamped (certainly) or eliminated (very possibly).

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Jan 14, 2020 07:16:03   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Thats only because the government skims billions off the top


You always find an excuse.

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Jan 14, 2020 10:08:54   #
sailor bob
 
I'm sure the President also h**es Mom. apple pie, and the good old USA. Probably h**es babies, little children, and grandmothers too. It's really good of you to keep us so informed.

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Jan 14, 2020 11:06:59   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Column: The Postal Service is America’s most popular government agency. Why does Trump h**e it?


https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-01-09/postal-service-trump


They are almost useless! Sent 50.00 to my son in Uber cards for Halloween one week early! Never got there! Broke vintage cups and items and I paid for insurance! They asked me if I had double boxed after they were broken!! The one in my town is run by a lying manager! They need an overhaul! Also they give amazon certain privileges and it cost them less money! That’s why our president doesn’t like them! Everyone should have to pay!!!!

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Jan 14, 2020 15:36:04   #
Auntie Dee
 
One of the reasons that the USPS keeps running in the red is that they are being forced to subsidize E-Packet & other mail services from China for mostly small items sold on the internet by such firms as eBay and Amazon, for anything that weighs less than 4# 4oz.

Most of the US is not even aware of the fact that an internet seller of product from China (& some other Asian countries) can mail a package to the USA for a fraction of what it costs a seller in the USA to mail the same merchandise to China. I am talking about pennies vs dollars! It all has to do with negotiated services because China is still classified as a "developing country" and therefore they get very favorable postage rates. I have heard it quoted that the USPS absorbs a loss of approximately $1.10 on each package that is sent from China to the USA, which amounts to millions of $$ per year!

Of course, we all know that China is no longer a "developing country" and is also burying us in their cheap merchandise! All the while being subsidized by the good ole USA to do so!

Trump has advocated to change or end this unfair practice and it seems a new contract has been negotiated that will take effect in July, 2020.

You can read more about this at: https://www.ecomcrew.com/why-china-post-and-usps-are-k*****g-your-private-labeling-business/

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Jan 14, 2020 16:04:17   #
Auntie Dee
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
They are almost useless! Sent 50.00 to my son in Uber cards for Halloween one week early! Never got there! Broke vintage cups and items and I paid for insurance! They asked me if I had double boxed after they were broken!! The one in my town is run by a lying manager! They need an overhaul! Also they give amazon certain privileges and it cost them less money! That’s why our president doesn’t like them! Everyone should have to pay!!!!


Too bad you have had bad experiences, but NO, the post office is not useless and I have seen lots of improved services over the years, I have been an eBay seller for over 20 years, so I do a lot of business with USPS, thousands of $$ per year. Over the years I have seen a lot of improvements made, mail delivery is faster today than at any time in the past, but a lot can depend on your local USPS service and it is probably spotty in some areas. Sometimes I have also run into local USPS people that do not understand the rules & services very well, or perhaps try to circumvent them for their own selfish reasons, if you conduct your USPS business over the internet, you can mostly avoid these type of problems.

I no longer have to stand in line at my local PO for service, something I use to have to do that could take up hours of my time. I now print all my labels on the internet (even foreign labels) and hand the packages to my local carrier...a real time saver! I am constantly amazed that more people do not use this service, anyone with a computer can access USPS.com & use a credit card to pay for postage & print out their own labels, most rates are also cheaper by doing this!

As far as loss & breakage, yes, it happens occasionally, but again if you have an electronic label receipt it is usually easier to deal with any problem over the internet than locally. You can also track any printed label right at home in minutes. With broken items, I have always been reimbursed promptly and never denied. For high $ items they might require inspection, but usually anything under $100 is repaid in a matter of days without question...not having to deal with overzealous clerks or managers!

In addition one improvement that they now offer is free Priority envelopes & boxes and $50 worth of FREE insurance on any Priority package. Of course, I realize these are not entirely FREE services, the costs have risen, but at least you do get more bang for your bucks!

I have also written another post that addresses the issues about Amazon privileges and Trump's win over that issue!

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Jan 15, 2020 05:23:34   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
woodguru wrote:
You are falling into a trap of using conservative rhetorical language that is moronic, h**e being associated to things it has nothing to do with. Trump doesn't h**e the post office, neither does the GOP that has been gunning for the post office for decades. They want it privatized, they want everything privatized so wealthy people can rip the government off for more money.

The GOP has been at war with the postal service and the way it's run, they have blocked good ideas to make it more cost effective and efficient, and they have imposed crippling penalties and forced procedures that make it less efficient, more expensive. The GOP sees any way they can make the postal service look bad as a reason to open it to privatization, which would be an unadulterated disaster of a circle jerk. The cost of administration alone would go through the roof, and shortcuts and cost escalations on postage rates would be the rule of the day.
You are falling into a trap of using conservative ... (show quote)

Despite all you say, our postal rates are among the lowest in the world. I keep hearing how giant corporations like Amazon are getting free or nearly free shipping from the Post Office. Maybe we should look into that and maybe adjust the rates to be more fair.

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