Lonewolf

Column: The Postal Service is America’s most popular government agency. Why does Trump h**e it?


https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-01-09/postal-service-trump

American Vet

Maybe because it is inefficient and wasteful.

Oursourcing is an efficient way to handle business. A few years back, my state outsourced the License Bureau - rave reviews: polite and quick service as opposed to spending 2 - 3 hours in line waiting for a bureaucrat to finish their lunch.

"The U.S. Postal Service found itself in the red once again for 2019, despite revenue increases and investment in cost-cutting measures. USPS reported a net loss of $8.8 billion for fiscal year 2019, more than double the loss reported last year, according to the USPS financial report released Nov. 14."
https://www.federaltimes.com/management/budget/2019/11/14/is-another-year-of-financial-losses-beyond-usps-control/

Lonewolf

Thats only because the government skims billions off the top

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Geeez again man, where do you come up with insane crap?....Billions

I know im asking alot.....you got any proof of that? A link maybe, a California street s**tter stating so or something, anything...anything?

Lonewolf

its the mandates that are hurting them https://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/

woodguru

You are falling into a trap of using conservative rhetorical language that is moronic, h**e being associated to things it has nothing to do with. Trump doesn't h**e the post office, neither does the GOP that has been gunning for the post office for decades. They want it privatized, they want everything privatized so wealthy people can rip the government off for more money.

The GOP has been at war with the postal service and the way it's run, they have blocked good ideas to make it more cost effective and efficient, and they have imposed crippling penalties and forced procedures that make it less efficient, more expensive. The GOP sees any way they can make the postal service look bad as a reason to open it to privatization, which would be an unadulterated disaster of a circle jerk. The cost of administration alone would go through the roof, and shortcuts and cost escalations on postage rates would be the rule of the day.

American Vet

Quite a rant. Nothing substantial in it it - but certainly wordy.

Of course, the article I posted pretty much refutes all of your claims.....

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Thats a pretty cool story, anything to back that up other than your own opinion? Or did you work there too and know all the ins and outs?
I have no problem with ones opinion as fact....just as long as they have some actual knowlegde of what they speak...do you have that?

woodguru

Actually they are forcing a "prepayment" scenario towards future pensions, something of course that a privatized corporation would not be crippled by, and of course they would be able to use the pension funds already set aside however they want, which of course would go towards bonuses and executive pay.

Question is do you support the postal service being privatized? That's what republicans want, or are you just blathering on for the sake of arguing?

If you were following the fight over the postal service during Obama's watch you wouldn't need to ask for proofs anyone who has followed the issues knows to be true.

The GOP is fighting over social security as well wanting to privatize that, and if that happened we could kiss social security off, because they would allow wallstreet to invest the funds and in a crash it would disappear. The GOP has been defunding the administration and their ability to do their jobs efficiently since trump took office. It is an entity under siege, the strategy being to cut funding for administration, make it perform badly as an excuse to privatize it.

American Vet

Last I heard was that it was not to force privatization of social security, but rather let the individual decide. I understand how l*****t would not like that......

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

No....The post office is an over bloated entity feeding off its own tit. Obammy only cared about the union, and the v**ers Dems could garner.......And you have the gaul too bame a party that sees 2 billion in losses a problem? I undrestand its worth the the v**es the union would force on the workers...pretty much all they do, and donate to Dem candidates.

You are being very dishonest, and you know it.

Just like you say coal is......the post office is dead, not needed due to what it has morphed into....a Dem piggy bank for v**es, corruption is rampant....but thanks to the unions.....it will always be that way until it implodes. It has turned into another AA failed project.

Other than that.....I argue just for the sake of arguing.....just like you.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I think President Trump loves the USPS so much that he'd like to see it run efficiently, something government bureaucrats are incapable of. USPS has some stiff competition in the private sector, particularly in the package shipping business. UPS and FedEx are kicking ass in that respect. These two corporate giants have even forced the USPS to bear the responsibility and cost of delivering much of the packages they ship.

First Class letter service had long been the USPS bread and butter, but today, with email, automatic and online bill payments, E-cards, E-memos, E-letters, E-invoices, E-receipts, blogs, forums, and social networks, the internet dominates the world of communication. The sale of postage stamps went down the s**tter years ago. Won't be long, wolf, and you'll be able to log on to the internet to change your diapers and wipe your ass. Hell, you might even be able to send your boyfriend a bouquet of E-roses.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

And those are Trumps fault I guess? Of course they are.

Lonewolf

woodguru

Of course your source wouldn't be reflecting the GOP bias, would it? The GOP destroys agencies and they come up with rhetorical arguments that are just not true...

...then when someone tries to make the point that a war of attrition with actively doing everything possible to make the post office fail, they report on how bad the post office is doing. It isn't just about a story on how bad the post office is doing, go back and find out why, because when you defund the crap out of operations budgets they are going to do poorly.