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Jan 12, 2020 17:15:41   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
DASHY wrote:
If we are not at war, why is it legal to k**l a high ranking general in enemy territory? And would our enemy be justified in murdering one of our generals? Would that be perfectly legal? Would we interpret that k*****g as an act of war? Would we retaliate? What would it take for us to declare war against an enemy?


Why is it you are so concerned about this Iranian General, that has k**led hundreds of us?
Personally I don't give a rat's ass, good riddance.
Go ahead and take out every Iranian scumbag that k**ls even a single U.S. military person or U.S. citizen.

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Jan 12, 2020 18:06:59   #
promilitary
 
DASHY wrote:
If we are not at war, why is it legal to k**l a high ranking general in enemy territory? And would our enemy be justified in murdering one of our generals? Would that be perfectly legal? Would we interpret that k*****g as an act of war? Would we retaliate? What would it take for us to declare war against an enemy?



Yes they would be justified if one of our generals was the terrorist that Soleimni was.

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Jan 13, 2020 01:52:35   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
DASHY wrote:
If we are not at war, why is it legal to k**l a high ranking general in enemy territory? And would our enemy be justified in murdering one of our generals? Would that be perfectly legal? Would we interpret that k*****g as an act of war? Would we retaliate? What would it take for us to declare war against an enemy?


It's never 'legal' to k**l anybody. Soldiers are expected to k**l soldiers during war, but not civilians, (or if a spy, not without a trial and sentencing). During WWII, the Allies learned that Yamamoto, ( the Japanese admiral that designed the attack on Pearl Harbor), would be flying to a meeting. We dispatched a few P-38's to intercept and the admiral got shot down and k**led. Not that it's legal, but that is what happens in war...people get k**led.
You asked was it legal to k**l a high ranking general...was it legal for Iran to attack our troops and k**l the American contractor? Or to shoot down our drones? Most recently, Iran shot down a Ukrainian air liner...'by mistake'...was that legal? What will they say to those families that lost loved ones? OOPS !
Iran is a rouge state and Trump is treating them like one. The World trade Center buildings were considered an act of war, but there was no country to war against, so it became a war against terrorism wherever it was found.
Yes, Iran would k**l our generals in a heartbeat, but we protect our high ranking officers.
There is no legality in war, it's just a proclaimed state between 2 countries.

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Jan 14, 2020 08:13:16   #
DASHY
 
maximus wrote:
It's never 'legal' to k**l anybody. Soldiers are expected to k**l soldiers during war, but not civilians, (or if a spy, not without a trial and sentencing). During WWII, the Allies learned that Yamamoto, ( the Japanese admiral that designed the attack on Pearl Harbor), would be flying to a meeting. We dispatched a few P-38's to intercept and the admiral got shot down and k**led. Not that it's legal, but that is what happens in war...people get k**led.
You asked was it legal to k**l a high ranking general...was it legal for Iran to attack our troops and k**l the American contractor? Or to shoot down our drones? Most recently, Iran shot down a Ukrainian air liner...'by mistake'...was that legal? What will they say to those families that lost loved ones? OOPS !
Iran is a rouge state and Trump is treating them like one. The World trade Center buildings were considered an act of war, but there was no country to war against, so it became a war against terrorism wherever it was found.
Yes, Iran would k**l our generals in a heartbeat, but we protect our high ranking officers.
There is no legality in war, it's just a proclaimed state between 2 countries.
It's never 'legal' to k**l anybody. Soldiers are e... (show quote)


When did the Congress of the United States declare war with the country of Iran? An act of war against terrorism includes everybody we consider to be a terrorist. I assume our enemies use the same rule. It is hard to determine if actions taken by us in Iran are acts of war. Congress needs to declare war if that is their position. Until then, we will continue to debate the question: Is k*****g legal or illegal?

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Jan 14, 2020 10:14:24   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
DASHY wrote:
When did the Congress of the United States declare war with the country of Iran? An act of war against terrorism includes everybody we consider to be a terrorist. I assume our enemies use the same rule. It is hard to determine if actions taken by us in Iran are acts of war. Congress needs to declare war if that is their position. Until then, we will continue to debate the question: Is k*****g legal or illegal?


• Sept. 20, 2001: In a speech addressing Congress and the nation, Bush announces the War on Terror, saying, “Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.”

Congress was behind this move by Bush Jr. 100%.

Is k*****g legal or illegal? If you k**l someone in self defense, is that legal? Or justified? Since a self defense homicide can be justifiable and therefore NOT illegal, then logic says that it can be legal.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:57:37   #
DASHY
 
maximus wrote:
• Sept. 20, 2001: In a speech addressing Congress and the nation, Bush announces the War on Terror, saying, “Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.”

Congress was behind this move by Bush Jr. 100%.

Is k*****g legal or illegal? If you k**l someone in self defense, is that legal? Or justified? Since a self defense homicide can be justifiable and therefore NOT illegal, then logic says that it can be legal.
• Sept. 20, 2001: In a speech addressing Congress ... (show quote)


K*****g someone in self defense in a face-to-face struggle where both parties are not at war is a bit different from deliberately ambushing and k*****g a leader of a foreign country with no apparent imminent threat to hide behind. They thought the threat was imminent but they did not know when or where. Congress was behind Bush in 2001, but never got in front of the k*****g situation as a declared policy.

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Jan 14, 2020 14:00:03   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
DASHY wrote:
K*****g someone in self defense in a face-to-face struggle where both parties are not at war is a bit different from deliberately ambushing and k*****g a leader of a foreign country with no apparent imminent threat to hide behind. They thought the threat was imminent but they did not know when or where. Congress was behind Bush in 2001, but never got in front of the k*****g situation as a declared policy.

The real difference is that Congress supports NOTHING that Trump does. The reason they supported Buch is because 9/12 was only 9 days old. Every single one of them would have been v**ed out had they not backed Bush.
We're we justified bombing 2 civilian targets with atomic bombs? Doing so is estimated to have saved 1.5 million Allied lives.
Oh yes! Congress got behind the k*****g situation.....when Obama was doing it. He even k**led an American and his teenaged son by drone, and without due process which is garaunteed by the Constitution.
The ONLY difference is who was and who is in the WH.

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Jan 14, 2020 14:18:32   #
Mikeyavelli
 
maximus wrote:
The real difference is that Congress supports NOTHING that Trump does. The reason they supported Buch is because 9/12 was only 9 days old. Every single one of them would have been v**ed out had they not backed Bush.
We're we justified bombing 2 civilian targets with atomic bombs? Doing so is estimated to have saved 1.5 million Allied lives.
Oh yes! Congress got behind the k*****g situation.....when Obama was doing it. He even k**led an American and his teenaged son by drone, and without due process which is garaunteed by the Constitution.
The ONLY difference is who was and who is in the WH.
The real difference is that Congress supports NOTH... (show quote)


Bingo!
If Trump stopped the k*****g of Sillymani the kommiecrats would have called him a coward.

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Jan 14, 2020 15:02:23   #
DASHY
 
maximus wrote:
The real difference is that Congress supports NOTHING that Trump does. The reason they supported Buch is because 9/12 was only 9 days old. Every single one of them would have been v**ed out had they not backed Bush.
We're we justified bombing 2 civilian targets with atomic bombs? Doing so is estimated to have saved 1.5 million Allied lives.
Oh yes! Congress got behind the k*****g situation.....when Obama was doing it. He even k**led an American and his teenaged son by drone, and without due process which is garaunteed by the Constitution.
The ONLY difference is who was and who is in the WH.
The real difference is that Congress supports NOTH... (show quote)


At least 200,000 people perished when the bombs were dropped. We learned our lesson. Drop no bombs and nobody is k**led and everybody is saved. Congress gets behind k*****gs no matter who is doing it. That's one of the problems. If they were to discuss and decide on foreign policy in advance, we would have a better idea about how to proceed. The decision should not be left to the President. Especially this one.

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Jan 14, 2020 15:24:13   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
DASHY wrote:
K*****g someone in self defense in a face-to-face struggle where both parties are not at war is a bit different from deliberately ambushing and k*****g a leader of a foreign country with no apparent imminent threat to hide behind. They thought the threat was imminent but they did not know when or where. Congress was behind Bush in 2001, but never got in front of the k*****g situation as a declared policy.


Why are you defending a monster who murdered hundreds of Americans????? I am glad he is gone!!! Every American should stay behind our President and not criticize him on national TV so our enemies will see that!! It's d********g and disgraceful!!! One more thing!!! Soleimani was NOT a leader of a country!! He was a General in the Army!! Ayatollah Khomeini is the leader of the Iran!! And for now he is still alive,until he does something stupid!!!

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Jan 14, 2020 15:29:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
At least 200,000 people perished when the bombs were dropped. We learned our lesson. Drop no bombs and nobody is k**led and everybody is saved. Congress gets behind k*****gs no matter who is doing it. That's one of the problems. If they were to discuss and decide on foreign policy in advance, we would have a better idea about how to proceed. The decision should not be left to the President. Especially this one.


So what foreign policy stops terrorist k*****gs??

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Jan 14, 2020 17:39:23   #
Mikeyavelli
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So what foreign policy stops terrorist k*****gs??


Don't you see, the kommiecrats aren't concerned about k*****g, they are trying to weaken America by insulting America for being the most powerful country on earth. Their darling warrior muslims can k**l with impunity, but as soon as we k**l one, the kommiecrats get all over us for being unfair and immoral. But it's okay for muslims to slice our throats, and we should smile about it.

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Jan 14, 2020 18:17:04   #
DASHY
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So what foreign policy stops terrorist k*****gs??


That's a good question. Just what is the foreign policy of the Trump administration? Right now the policy seems to be it is anything Trump says it is on any given day. Do you think it would be a good idea to consult Congress and foreign policy experts when making decisions about issues of war?

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Jan 14, 2020 18:25:15   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
DASHY wrote:
That's a good question. Just what is the foreign policy of the Trump administration? Right now the policy seems to be it is anything Trump says it is on any given day. Do you think it would be a good idea to consult Congress and foreign policy experts when making decisions about issues of war?


We are not at war with Iran!!! If we ever were to go to war,I'm sure President Trump would consult with Congress!! But to k**l the terrorist when that terrorist murdered hundreds of Americans I don't think he needs to consult with leaky Congress!!! Bush,obama I don't remember ever consulted with Congress before k*****g terrorists!;

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Jan 14, 2020 18:32:03   #
Mikeyavelli
 
proud republican wrote:
We are not at war with Iran!!! If we ever were to go to war,I'm sure President Trump would consult with Congress!! But to k**l the terrorist when that terrorist murdered hundreds of Americans I don't think he needs to consult with leaky Congress!!! Bush,obama I don't remember ever consulted with Congress before k*****g terrorists!;


Iran learned that Trump is not to be toyed with. They know enough to be very careful, or, they will become a gleaming glass country.

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