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Dec 14, 2019 19:22:04   #
Rose42
 
TexaCan wrote:
So we continue to spread the Good News just like he commanded, never missing the opportunity to state that One Way!đź‘Ťđź—Łđź—Łđź—Łđź•Šđź•Šđź•Šđź•Š


And as long as people still have breath they have a chance. đź‘Ť

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Dec 14, 2019 19:26:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Jesus does state explicitly but people continue to be offended by his message and insist there are multiple paths deapite what he told us.


No one is offended by Jesus...

Some of his followers certainly...

Hard to understand that all paths lead to God and His judgement... Really?

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Dec 14, 2019 19:57:00   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I agree.... Judgement is for God alone...

Jesus praised the Samaritan for his actions, not his faith, right?


We can and are to judge what is sin and what is not.

The parable is not so superficial. It has a much deeper meaning. It is significant that it was a lawyer questioning Jesus - a legalist who was not really sincere with his question. One of the lessons is you can’t save yourself by following the law - performing the action. That we all fall short and need a Savior.

There’s much more to it than that. But the point is its not a simple tale about being kind to a stranger.

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Dec 14, 2019 20:04:30   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No one is offended by Jesus...

Some of his followers certainly...

Hard to understand that all paths lead to God and His judgement... Really?


Many are offended by Jesus. He is “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense” for many. They don’t want to accept all of his message. Just the comfortable parts.

Everyone is judged but there is only one path to salvation. Not many. That is one message that offends most people.

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Dec 14, 2019 20:10:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Many are offended by Jesus. He is “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense” for many. They don’t want to accept all of his message. Just the comfortable parts.

Everyone is judged but there is only one path to salvation. Not many. That is one message that offends most people.


We have very different ideas about Jesus...

Although I agree concerning only wanting to accept the comfortable parts... Few people want to truly dive into the Bible and face its t***hs...

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Dec 14, 2019 20:11:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
We can and are to judge what is sin and what is not.

The parable is not so superficial. It has a much deeper meaning. It is significant that it was a lawyer questioning Jesus - a legalist who was not really sincere with his question. One of the lessons is you can’t save yourself by following the law - performing the action. That we all fall short and need a Savior.

There’s much more to it than that. But the point is its not a simple tale about being kind to a stranger.


No... We are not to judge sin...

Only recognize it...

Judgement is for God alone...

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Dec 14, 2019 20:27:11   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No... We are not to judge sin...

Only recognize it...

Judgement is for God alone...


You are wrong and I will leave it to you to find out why. And without judgement one can’t know what is sin. We can judge sin but not condemn.

24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” John 7 (just one example)

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Dec 14, 2019 20:30:32   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We have very different ideas about Jesus...

Although I agree concerning only wanting to accept the comfortable parts... Few people want to truly dive into the Bible and face its t***hs...


Like John 1, “many are called, few are chosen” and , “I am the way, and the t***h, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.“ Just a few examples.

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Dec 14, 2019 20:46:48   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
We can and are to judge what is sin and what is not.

The parable is not so superficial. It has a much deeper meaning. It is significant that it was a lawyer questioning Jesus - a legalist who was not really sincere with his question. One of the lessons is you can’t save yourself by following the law - performing the action. That we all fall short and need a Savior.

There’s much more to it than that. But the point is its not a simple tale about being kind to a stranger.


Perhaps. I see it to mean be righteous, not religious. What does it take to be righteous? Love, not law. That is the complete and full message. Christ is nothing more than the spirit and breath and hands of love.

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Dec 14, 2019 20:49:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
rumitoid wrote:
Perhaps. I see it to mean be righteous, not religious. What does it take to be righteous? Love, not law.


There is no one righteous.

https://biblehub.com/romans/3-10.htm

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Dec 14, 2019 20:50:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
You are wrong and I will leave it to you to find out why. And without judgement one can’t know what is sin. We can judge sin but not condemn.

24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” John 7 (just one example)


Perhaps we are on the same page here and simply quibbling over the term "judge"...

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Dec 14, 2019 21:03:38   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Perhaps we are on the same page here and simply quibbling over the term "judge"...


Could be. If you saw me stealing you could and should tell me thats a sin but you couldn’t (shouldn’t) condemn me for it.

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Dec 14, 2019 21:27:13   #
rumitoid
 
JFlorio wrote:
There is no one righteous.

https://biblehub.com/romans/3-10.htm


That's wrong. Viola!
1 John 2:29 ESV / 247 helpful v**es
If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him.

1 John 3:7 ESV / 244 helpful v**es
Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
Romans 5:1-5 ESV / 229 helpful v**es
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Psalm 106:3 ESV / 204 helpful v**es
Blessed are they who observe justice, who do righteousness at all times!

This to name a few of over forty passages about being righteous.

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Dec 14, 2019 21:37:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Could be. If you saw me stealing you could and should tell me thats a sin but you couldn’t (shouldn’t) condemn me for it.


Absolutely...
I view this as discernment...
Not judgement...

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Dec 14, 2019 21:37:40   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
The point is no one is righteous without Jesus.

https://www.jeanejones.net/2013/07/who-are-the-righteous-in-psalms-and-proverbs/

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rumitoid wrote:
That's wrong. Viola!
1 John 2:29 ESV / 247 helpful v**es
If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him.

1 John 3:7 ESV / 244 helpful v**es
Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
Romans 5:1-5 ESV / 229 helpful v**es
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Psalm 106:3 ESV / 204 helpful v**es
Blessed are they who observe justice, who do righteousness at all times!

This to name a few of over forty passages about being righteous.
That's wrong. Viola! br 1 John 2:29 ESV / 247 help... (show quote)

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