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Dec 8, 2019 20:10:33   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Hug wrote:
Does anyone know the role McArthur played that day? Did he d**g his feet on counter attacking from the Philippines? It seems that I got the information from somewhere that General McArthur thought he might keep the Philippines neutral since he was a big time adviser to the Philippine Government.


Interesting thought. Not sure there was anything in the Philippines to hit back with. Japan invaded the islands days after Pearl. Remembering we had to move assets to Australia to fight with.
BTW. I had an uncle in the Philippines when the Japanese invaded, he withstood the Bataan Death March, was captured and spent 3 years in the copper mines in Japan. Though he stood over 6 feet tall, he only weighed 85 pounds when he was repatriated and returned to the US. He actually was able to complete his 20 years in the Army and retire.
Abit of info from his life.
Sgt. Pinkney Harry Helvey was born on 27 Dec 1914 in Ruble, Reynolds, Missouri, United States. He appeared in the
census on 6 Jun 1920 in Webb Township, Reynolds, Missouri, United States. He appeared in the census on 18 Apr 1930 in
Logan Township, Reynolds, Missouri, United States. Pinkney served in the military from 16 Sep 1935 to 31 Mar 1956.
Service number RA 6830973
Notes found on the internet re Uncle Pink Helvey
Shipped from Manila to Japan on this ship.
598 Kenwa Maru Manila 03/06/44 Takao/ Moji, Japan 03/22/44 200
An entry on the net from some complainer that the US didn’t do all thy could to prevent torpedoing POW ships.
True, the Japanese failed to indicate that their merchant vessels were carrying POWs, a violation of the 1929 Geneva
Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War which Japan signed, but did not ratify. But there had been a series
of Japanese merchant vessels carrying Allied POWs that were sunk by American submarines prior to the Arisan Maru
disaster. Moreover, through ULTRA intelligence, the United States had the ability to track Japanese Navy and merchant
vessels, listen in on Japanese radio messages, pinpoint shipping routes, and in some cases ascertain exactly what cargo was
on board. "Two hundred medical personnel prisoners who are to be t***sferred to Japan embarked on the Kenwa Maru," read one radio message intercept, referring to the ship on which my father** was t***sported to Japan in late February 1944. "They are scheduled to debark at Moji." ** (This written by the son or daughter of another prisoner.) Same ship as my uncle.

Roster of Kawasaki POW camp
HELVEY PINK,6830973,S-SGT,Inf,MO,TOK-#2 KAWASAKI
Tokyo-01B-KawasakiTokyo Area POW Command
the........

There is lots more. yell if you want it posted. Meanwhile, there is his name and service number, Google him if you want to know what was happening at this time in the war.

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Dec 8, 2019 20:16:45   #
teabag09
 
Hug wrote:
Does anyone know the role McArthur played that day? Did he d**g his feet on counter attacking from the Philippines? It seems that I got the information from somewhere that General McArthur thought he might keep the Philippines neutral since he was a big time adviser to the Philippine Government.


My Mother was a First LT in Naval Intelligence in Washington, DC on Dec. 7, 1941. Though she was sworn to secrecy, which she kept to the day she died, she let out hints to us that we knew ahead of time about the attack. Mike

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Dec 8, 2019 20:22:19   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
teabag09 wrote:
My Mother was a First LT in Naval Intelligence in Washington, DC on Dec. 7, 1941. Though she was sworn to secrecy, which she kept to the day she died, she let out hints to us that we knew ahead of time about the attack. Mike


I have read that as well. A lot of well deserved criticism for that. The excuse seemed to be that we didn't want the Japanese to know we had broken their code so we did nothing to stop the attack.

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Dec 8, 2019 21:32:55   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
I have read that as well. A lot of well deserved criticism for that. The excuse seemed to be that we didn't want the Japanese to know we had broken their code so we did nothing to stop the attack.


nice

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