PeterS wrote:
I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinction between ideology and policy. To her, this isn't about ideology but Trump's failure to adhere to the constitution and the rule of law. The question is why is it so impossible for you conservatives do the same?
As for your noted speakers, they are the ones who attempted to shoot the messenger instead of attacking the message. Not even Turley was able to attack the message. He was against impeachment in this case yet he was for the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Why? I listened and never heard a clear answer. If blackmail, which is listed as a cause for impeachment, doesn't qualify as a cause now--how could lying about getting a blowjob be anything that Turley would stand up for then?
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What part of no factual witnesses don’t you understand?
What part of the fact that the only factual eyewitnesses testified that there was no quid pro quo stated, implied, intended or understood, in fact it was verbally and explicitly repudiated, don’t you understand? The only ones making the “accusation” are doing so on their strong, overly-stated desire and determination to impeach the President over something before they ever had a crime to convince him of.
Is that the American ideal you strive for: guilty until proven innocent and even then not innocent unless he agrees with you?
That’s what this has been about the whole time. That is what conservatives are up in arms about. That seems to be lost on you.
If you think that being “guilty by mere accusation, before and without being proven, and even contrary to the exculpatory evidence” is the kind of America you want to live in, and then you also accuse others of us who don’t think it is, or was intended on being, of lacking in intelligence, then you are welcome to your opinion, even if it is uninformed, misdirected and just flat out wrong.
Open your eyes Peter. There is nothing new or “progressive” about the tyranny of the masses led by a minority of intolerant leaders. And furthermore, just because Trump is human and isn’t perfect, and you don’t like or agree with him or his policies or procedures, is not enough to impeach him over.
This is where your Democratic leaders were correct: an impeachment that is not based on compelling and overwhelming evidence, and has bi-partisan support will only be d******e, and that is perfectly fine with your leaders. They’ve made their bed and now they are sleeping in it, as the saying goes.
Is that d******eness the goal you seek, Peter?