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Dec 7, 2019 10:38:03   #
PeterS
 
In listening to the conservative congressman questioning who the constitutional scholars v**ed for, the questions that crosse my mind: are there no conservative's out there who can separate their ideology from the common good of the country? Is there not a single conservative out there who can put their ideology aside and look at the president and the accusations against him objectively?

Why does this always come down to ideology with you people? That was your principle argument under Mueller. There has been no bigger crook to hold the office of president than Trump and you people want to know who people v**ed for as if that should make any difference? As I hear that and I can't believe the disconnect. Why do you think attacking the messenger is more important than attacking the message? Get real!

The constitution and the rule of law are supreme to anything that either of us believes. Trump was blatant in his attempt to bribe a foreign power into starting a bogus investigation solely so he could throw mud at Joe Biden. In fact, he didn't even care if an actual investigation was started just so the appearance was there so he could smear Biden. This begs the question, just what would Trump have to do before you people will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law instead of your ideology and your president?

Just what was in the cool-aid that you people drank? So far, all you Republicans have done is attack the messenger but have done nothing to attack the message. I know you lack the intelligence to see that you are using a logical fallacy to attack the question of what Trump has done. And I know you think fallacies are a proper form of argument, but they aren't. So if all you have are fallacies what do you intend to defend Trump with--or does your hold on the Senate make the question of defense irrelevant?

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Dec 7, 2019 10:41:35   #
tbutkovich
 
You need to get some attention on those cataracts which have clouded your vision!

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Dec 7, 2019 10:41:52   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
In listening to the conservative congressman questioning who the constitutional scholars v**ed for, the questions that crosse my mind: are there no conservative's out there who can separate their ideology from the common good of the country? Is there not a single conservative out there who can put their ideology aside and look at the president and the accusations against him objectively?

Why does this always come down to ideology with you people? That was your principle argument under Mueller. There has been no bigger crook to hold the office of president than Trump and you people want to know who people v**ed for as if that should make any difference? As I hear that and I can't believe the disconnect. Why do you think attacking the messenger is more important than attacking the message? Get real!

The constitution and the rule of law are supreme to anything that either of us believes. Trump was blatant in his attempt to bribe a foreign power into starting a bogus investigation solely so he could throw mud at Joe Biden. In fact, he didn't even care if an actual investigation was started just so the appearance was there so he could smear Biden. This begs the question, just what would Trump have to do before you people will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law instead of your ideology and your president?

Just what was in the cool-aid that you people drank? So far, all you Republicans have done is attack the messenger but have done nothing to attack the message. I know you lack the intelligence to see that you are using a logical fallacy to attack the question of what Trump has done. And I know you think fallacies are a proper form of argument, but they aren't. So if all you have are fallacies what do you intend to defend Trump with--or does your hold on the Senate make the question of defense irrelevant?
In listening to the conservative congressman quest... (show quote)


As usual you employ the old l*****t trick of projecting on others what you are yourself.

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Dec 7, 2019 10:52:02   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
As usual you employ the old l*****t trick of projecting on others what you are yourself.

How so? How is anything I said not true? Explain, if you have it in your vocabulary to do so.

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Dec 7, 2019 10:53:00   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
PeterS wrote:
In listening to the conservative congressman questioning who the constitutional scholars v**ed for, the questions that crosse my mind: are there no conservative's out there who can separate their ideology from the common good of the country? Is there not a single conservative out there who can put their ideology aside and look at the president and the accusations against him objectively?

Why does this always come down to ideology with you people? That was your principle argument under Mueller. There has been no bigger crook to hold the office of president than Trump and you people want to know who people v**ed for as if that should make any difference? As I hear that and I can't believe the disconnect. Why do you think attacking the messenger is more important than attacking the message? Get real!

The constitution and the rule of law are supreme to anything that either of us believes. Trump was blatant in his attempt to bribe a foreign power into starting a bogus investigation solely so he could throw mud at Joe Biden. In fact, he didn't even care if an actual investigation was started just so the appearance was there so he could smear Biden. This begs the question, just what would Trump have to do before you people will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law instead of your ideology and your president?

Just what was in the cool-aid that you people drank? So far, all you Republicans have done is attack the messenger but have done nothing to attack the message. I know you lack the intelligence to see that you are using a logical fallacy to attack the question of what Trump has done. And I know you think fallacies are a proper form of argument, but they aren't. So if all you have are fallacies what do you intend to defend Trump with--or does your hold on the Senate make the question of defense irrelevant?
In listening to the conservative congressman quest... (show quote)


Projecting again. I realize what Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, and professor Turley, etc, said don’t make sense to you, but that doesn’t equate to our lack of intelligence.

You should try to remember the words Pelosi said: overwhelming, compelling and non-partisan.

And when pressed to account for that position, she claimed Republicans shirked their constitutional responsibility. In other words, l*****t Nancy decides what the other party’s position should be. That type of tyranny is what intelligent people are concerned with, but, apparently, not you.

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Dec 7, 2019 10:54:10   #
PeterS
 
tbutkovich wrote:
You need to get some attention on those cataracts which have clouded your vision!

It's a simple question: Can you look at anything without putting your ideology first? Don't try to deflect onto me questions you don't have the balls to answer...

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Dec 7, 2019 11:06:23   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
How so? How is anything I said not true? Explain, if you have it in your vocabulary to do so.


You refer to the alleged constitutional scholars who are by their own admission blatantly biased againt trump but ignore the one who was not a trump supporter who spoke against impeachment. By your lack ofobjectivety you show yourself to be the real koolaid drinker.

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Dec 7, 2019 11:08:46   #
PeterS
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Projecting again. I realize what Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, and professor Turley, etc, said don’t make sense to you, but that doesn’t equate to our lack of intelligence.

You should try to remember the words Pelosi said: overwhelming, compelling and non-partisan.

And when pressed to account for that position, she claimed Republicans shirked their constitutional responsibility. In other words, l*****t Nancy decides what the other party’s position should be. That type of tyranny is what intelligent people are concerned with, but, apparently, not you.
Projecting again. I realize what Jim Jordan, Matt ... (show quote)

I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinction between ideology and policy. To her, this isn't about ideology but Trump's failure to adhere to the constitution and the rule of law. The question is why is it so impossible for you conservatives do the same?

As for your noted speakers, they are the ones who attempted to shoot the messenger instead of attacking the message. Not even Turley was able to attack the message. He was against impeachment in this case yet he was for the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Why? I listened and never heard a clear answer. If blackmail, which is listed as a cause for impeachment, doesn't qualify as a cause now--how could lying about getting a blowjob be anything that Turley would stand up for then?

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Dec 7, 2019 11:17:45   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
In listening to the conservative congressman questioning who the constitutional scholars v**ed for, the questions that crosse my mind: are there no conservative's out there who can separate their ideology from the common good of the country? Is there not a single conservative out there who can put their ideology aside and look at the president and the accusations against him objectively?

Why does this always come down to ideology with you people? That was your principle argument under Mueller. There has been no bigger crook to hold the office of president than Trump and you people want to know who people v**ed for as if that should make any difference? As I hear that and I can't believe the disconnect. Why do you think attacking the messenger is more important than attacking the message? Get real!

The constitution and the rule of law are supreme to anything that either of us believes. Trump was blatant in his attempt to bribe a foreign power into starting a bogus investigation solely so he could throw mud at Joe Biden. In fact, he didn't even care if an actual investigation was started just so the appearance was there so he could smear Biden. This begs the question, just what would Trump have to do before you people will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law instead of your ideology and your president?

Just what was in the cool-aid that you people drank? So far, all you Republicans have done is attack the messenger but have done nothing to attack the message. I know you lack the intelligence to see that you are using a logical fallacy to attack the question of what Trump has done. And I know you think fallacies are a proper form of argument, but they aren't. So if all you have are fallacies what do you intend to defend Trump with--or does your hold on the Senate make the question of defense irrelevant?
In listening to the conservative congressman quest... (show quote)


You are very sure of what you think you know. You don't take questions to your certainty.

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Dec 7, 2019 11:19:55   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
PeterS wrote:
I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinction between ideology and policy. To her, this isn't about ideology but Trump's failure to adhere to the constitution and the rule of law. The question is why is it so impossible for you conservatives do the same?

As for your noted speakers, they are the ones who attempted to shoot the messenger instead of attacking the message. Not even Turley was able to attack the message. He was against impeachment in this case yet he was for the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Why? I listened and never heard a clear answer. If blackmail, which is listed as a cause for impeachment, doesn't qualify as a cause now--how could lying about getting a blowjob be anything that Turley would stand up for?
I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinct... (show quote)


Peter needs a plexiglas inset into his belly so that he can see with his head where it is. That female (?) law professor was a real dandy! And now we know that Nancy PEE losi does not h**e anybody who is already born.

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Dec 7, 2019 11:25:38   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinction between ideology and policy. To her, this isn't about ideology but Trump's failure to adhere to the constitution and the rule of law. The question is why is it so impossible for you conservatives do the same?

As for your noted speakers, they are the ones who attempted to shoot the messenger instead of attacking the message. Not even Turley was able to attack the message. He was against impeachment in this case yet he was for the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Why? I listened and never heard a clear answer. If blackmail, which is listed as a cause for impeachment, doesn't qualify as a cause now--how could lying about getting a blowjob be anything that Turley would stand up for?
I heard Pelosi speak and she made a clear distinct... (show quote)


Clinton perjured himself to try and protect himself from a sexual harassment suit he was facing and later paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to settle.

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Dec 7, 2019 11:42:09   #
TrueAmerican
 
PeterS wrote:
In listening to the conservative congressman questioning who the constitutional scholars v**ed for, the questions that crosse my mind: are there no conservative's out there who can separate their ideology from the common good of the country? Is there not a single conservative out there who can put their ideology aside and look at the president and the accusations against him objectively?

Why does this always come down to ideology with you people? That was your principle argument under Mueller. There has been no bigger crook to hold the office of president than Trump and you people want to know who people v**ed for as if that should make any difference? As I hear that and I can't believe the disconnect. Why do you think attacking the messenger is more important than attacking the message? Get real!

The constitution and the rule of law are supreme to anything that either of us believes. Trump was blatant in his attempt to bribe a foreign power into starting a bogus investigation solely so he could throw mud at Joe Biden. In fact, he didn't even care if an actual investigation was started just so the appearance was there so he could smear Biden. This begs the question, just what would Trump have to do before you people will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law instead of your ideology and your president?

Just what was in the cool-aid that you people drank? So far, all you Republicans have done is attack the messenger but have done nothing to attack the message. I know you lack the intelligence to see that you are using a logical fallacy to attack the question of what Trump has done. And I know you think fallacies are a proper form of argument, but they aren't. So if all you have are fallacies what do you intend to defend Trump with--or does your hold on the Senate make the question of defense irrelevant?
In listening to the conservative congressman quest... (show quote)


Well we put in some integrity and honesty, with a heavy dose patriotism and capitalism (4 items which most demonRATs can't find, spell or produce) we stirred it all together with love and drank it down --- GOD BLESS AMERICA the greatest country on earth !!!!!!

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Dec 7, 2019 11:47:52   #
PeterS
 
son of witless wrote:
You are very sure of what you think you know. You don't take questions to your certainty.

Well, I think about what I know--that allows me to be certain of what I think. And so far none of you has addressed the question--is there not a single one of you who can put your country above your ideology? How is it the Constitution and the rule of law don't take precedence over your ideology and your political beliefs?

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Dec 7, 2019 11:49:33   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Well, I think about what I know--that allows you to be certain. And so far no one has addressed the question--is there not a single one of you who can put your country above your ideology? How is it the Constitution and the rule of law don't take precedence over your ideology and your political beliefs?


Again projecting on others what you are yourself. You h**e Trump more than you love America.

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Dec 7, 2019 11:53:06   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
Well, I think about what I know--that allows you to be certain. And so far no one has addressed the question--is there not a single one of you who can put your country above your ideology? How is it the Constitution and the rule of law don't take precedence over your ideology and your political beliefs?


You still here ? I can't believe it. Every single freakin time I dare one of you Liberals to speak with me, I find myself alone. How bout you lay out your case one fact at a time and lets us see if you can convince me ? I am getting really tired of talking to crickets whenever I try to break into one of your echo chambers.

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