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Dec 5, 2019 11:40:15   #
Dwight Logan
 
woodguru wrote:
Are you guys really this ignorant? Of course they have made up their minds, this isn't the stage where they are trying to figure out what happened, this is the stage where they are laying out the evidence and stating what it means.

Now, the GOP needs to hear what is being said and pull their heads out of the place where they have already decided trump has done nothing he deserves to be impeached about. This is for them to hear and respond accordingly to, not maintain positions where they have already made up their minds.
Are you guys really this ignorant? Of course they ... (show quote)


My dog understands better than you about what are not saying and worse than that he did understand what you said and was upset about it.

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Dec 5, 2019 14:43:42   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Three advocates for impeaching Trump.


Larry, Moe and Curly?

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Dec 5, 2019 14:46:06   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
But Roby from Alabama is a voice in the wilderness! Congratulations to her.


Even Schitt just said he doesn't know if he'll sign the papers.

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Dec 5, 2019 14:48:43   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
proud republican wrote:
Actually all Republicans .are great!!!


Yes, we still haven't heard a crime, have we?

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Dec 5, 2019 14:52:10   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Whoever the Clinton wannabe is (that voice) she lost because of that.

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Dec 5, 2019 14:55:26   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Their knowledge of the constitution. Feldman thought the constitution defined bribery. Karlan didn't know what treason is. Brilliant.


Next genius. lol

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Dec 5, 2019 15:00:56   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
proud republican wrote:
And your Rats are arguing stupid crooked MSM talking points!!!


I think a few have passed on, here is the underbelly of the deep state. All are p*******es Bush Sr. was on there but I knew he was gone so out of respect...

President Richard Nixon attended the gathering, once saying in his private p**********l tapes:

Learn more about RevenueStripe...

“The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time . . . is the most f*ggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine . . . it’s just terrible.”



The Bohemian Grove gathering includes the bizarre ritual, called the “Cremation of Care,” which began in 1881.

As Alex Jones, who has done undercover reporting of the ritual, has noted, the statue before they perform a mock-sacrifice resembles the biblical false god, Moloch.

For many years, a recording of Bohemian Club member Walter Cronkite was used as the voice of The Owl (Moloch) during the ceremony.



The “camps” scattered throughout the grove number 118, as reported in 2007. The camps, which are frequently patrilineal, as FOTM notes, are the primary means through which connections between the elite businessmen and politicians are forged.

Mandalay Camp, it is said, is the camp “for international relations and consists of more than a few members officially or otherwise connected to foreign policy and the CIA. Mandalay is the only camp the average visitor cannot just walk into; an appointment or formal invitation is necessary.”

The names of attendees to Bohemian Grove are not made public.

However, in 2008, Wikileaks published the 2008 guest list for Bohemian Grove.

Now, thanks to Crazy Days and Nights (CDAN), there is an updated list for 2018.

CDAN’s blogger, Ent Lawyer, comes vouched for by FOTM. The Daily Beast, a very left-wing outlet, describes the blogger as, “. . . calling out many of Hollywood’s now-ostracized sexually misbehaving elite, sometimes years in advance of the mainstream media.

“if you had been reading @entylawyer, you’d have known about Matt Lauer. And Harvey [Weinstein]. And Kevin Spacey. Just saying,’ tweeted New York professional Sara Zucker. Or as investigative journalist Mark Ebner (one of only 20 people who knows the blogger’s real-life identity) observes, ‘Enty Lawyer is like the anti-Perez Hilton. In my opinion, that’s what makes him so impressive, is that no one knows who he is, and he’s being proven right again and again. That’s like legendary s**t.’”

On July 21, 2019, CDAN published a list of the Bohemian Grove attendees for the year 2008 and 2018. They also obtained the names of the 2018 attendees from photos sent to them by an anonymous source.

Here is a screenshot of one page from their 60-page list:



Here are some of the names of attendees which Dr. Enoyn of FOTM can identify.

He says:

Below are the names of attendees I can identify. Note that some individuals are deceased, which means they were attendees of the 2008 Bohemian Grove. Names with a check mark (v) stayed at the exclusive Mandalay camp:

1. John F. Akers, president & CEO of IBM; died in 2014. v
2. Keith B. Alexander, U.S. Army general (ret.).
3. Lamar Alexander, U.S. senator (R-TN).
4. Michael H. Armacost, former president of Brookings Institute. v
5. Samuel H. Armacost, former president & CEO of BankAmerica v
6. Harris J. Ashton, former chairman, president & CEO of FNC Holdings, Inc. v
7. H. B. Atwater, Jr., former CEO of General Mills, Inc. v
8. James A. Baker III, White House chief-of-staff for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
9. James A. Baker IV, chairman of global law firm Baker Botts’ Global Projects Department.
10. Robert D. Ballard, U.S. Navy officer (ret.); U. of Rhode Island professor of oceanography. v
11. Haley Barbour, former governor of Mississippi & former chairman of Republican National Committee.
12. Donald R. Beall, CEO of Rockwell Collins. v
13. Riley P. Bechtel, billionaire chairman of Bechtel Corp. v
14. S.D. Bechtel Jr., billionaire grandson of founder of Bechtel Corp.; father of Riley (#13) v
15. James Belushi, actor.
16. Clint Black, country music singer.
17. Mike (Michael) Bloomberg, billionaire former mayor of New York City. v
18. Robert Bloomingdale, actor/producer.
19. Arthur Brooks, former Ohio state representative (D).
20. Jimmy Buffet, singer/songwriter.
21. George H.W. Bush, 41st U.S. president, died Nov. 30, 2018.
22. Robert Cohn, founder of Octel Communications, company that commercialized voice mail. v
23. Walter Cronkite, Jr., CBS Evening News anchorman, d. 2009.
24. James T. Curry, Jr, former board member of Newmont Mining Corp. v
25. K(enneth) T. Derr, board member of Halliburton Co.; former chairman & CEO of Chevron Corp. v
26. Mark DeSaulnier, Congressman (D-CA).
27. Clint Eastwood, actor/director.
28. Karl W. Eikenberry, U.S. Army lt. gen. (ret.); former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan.
29. William T. Esrey, former CEO of Sprint Corp. v
30. Peter M. Flanigan, investment banker & fundraiser for Nixon; d. 2013. v
31. William Friedkin, director.
32. Louis V. Gerstner Jr., former CEO of IBM and RJR Nabisco, former member of Bilderberg Group’s Steering Committee.
33. Peter Graves, actor, d. 2010.
34. Robert D. Haas, chairman emeritus of Levi Strauss & Co.
35. Mickey Hart, Grateful Dead rockband drummer.
36. Richard D. Hearney, U.S. Marine Corps general (ret.)
37. Peter Jackson, movie director?
38. Conrad Janis, actor.
39. Charles B. Johnson, billionaire former CEO of Franklin Resources mutual fund company. v
40. Edgar F. Kaiser Jr., financier founder of Kaiser (medical) Foundation. v
41. Henry A. Kissinger, U.S. secretary of state in Nixon & Ford administrations. v
42. Charles G. Koch, billionaire co-founder, chairman & CEO of Koch Industries.
43. David H. Koch, billionaire brother of Charles (#42); co-0wner & VP of Koch Industries.
44. Richard M. Kovacevich, former CEO of Well Fargo & Co. v
45. Art(thur) G. Linkletter, radio/TV personality, d. 2010.
46. Vernon R. Loucks Jr., former CEO of Segway, Inc. v
47. Malcolm McDowell, actor.
48. James Patrick McGillen, producer/writer? v
49. Michael Mondavi, son of Robert Mondavi, founder of Robert Mondavi Winery.
50. Robert Michael Mondavi Jr., founder of Folio Wine Co.
51. Edwin H. Morgens, chairman of investment firm Morgens, Waterfall, Vintiadis & Company, Inc. v
52. Richard M. Morrow, former chairmand & CEO of Amoco Corp., d. 2013. v

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Dec 5, 2019 15:03:08   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I think a few have passed on, here is the underbelly of the deep state. All are p*******es Bush Sr. was on there but I knew he was gone so out of respect...

President Richard Nixon attended the gathering, once saying in his private p**********l tapes:

Learn more about RevenueStripe...

“The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time . . . is the most f*ggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine . . . it’s just terrible.”



The Bohemian Grove gathering includes the bizarre ritual, called the “Cremation of Care,” which began in 1881.

As Alex Jones, who has done undercover reporting of the ritual, has noted, the statue before they perform a mock-sacrifice resembles the biblical false god, Moloch.

For many years, a recording of Bohemian Club member Walter Cronkite was used as the voice of The Owl (Moloch) during the ceremony.



The “camps” scattered throughout the grove number 118, as reported in 2007. The camps, which are frequently patrilineal, as FOTM notes, are the primary means through which connections between the elite businessmen and politicians are forged.

Mandalay Camp, it is said, is the camp “for international relations and consists of more than a few members officially or otherwise connected to foreign policy and the CIA. Mandalay is the only camp the average visitor cannot just walk into; an appointment or formal invitation is necessary.”

The names of attendees to Bohemian Grove are not made public.

However, in 2008, Wikileaks published the 2008 guest list for Bohemian Grove.

Now, thanks to Crazy Days and Nights (CDAN), there is an updated list for 2018.

CDAN’s blogger, Ent Lawyer, comes vouched for by FOTM. The Daily Beast, a very left-wing outlet, describes the blogger as, “. . . calling out many of Hollywood’s now-ostracized sexually misbehaving elite, sometimes years in advance of the mainstream media.

“if you had been reading @entylawyer, you’d have known about Matt Lauer. And Harvey [Weinstein]. And Kevin Spacey. Just saying,’ tweeted New York professional Sara Zucker. Or as investigative journalist Mark Ebner (one of only 20 people who knows the blogger’s real-life identity) observes, ‘Enty Lawyer is like the anti-Perez Hilton. In my opinion, that’s what makes him so impressive, is that no one knows who he is, and he’s being proven right again and again. That’s like legendary s**t.’”

On July 21, 2019, CDAN published a list of the Bohemian Grove attendees for the year 2008 and 2018. They also obtained the names of the 2018 attendees from photos sent to them by an anonymous source.

Here is a screenshot of one page from their 60-page list:



Here are some of the names of attendees which Dr. Enoyn of FOTM can identify.

He says:

Below are the names of attendees I can identify. Note that some individuals are deceased, which means they were attendees of the 2008 Bohemian Grove. Names with a check mark (v) stayed at the exclusive Mandalay camp:

1. John F. Akers, president & CEO of IBM; died in 2014. v
2. Keith B. Alexander, U.S. Army general (ret.).
3. Lamar Alexander, U.S. senator (R-TN).
4. Michael H. Armacost, former president of Brookings Institute. v
5. Samuel H. Armacost, former president & CEO of BankAmerica v
6. Harris J. Ashton, former chairman, president & CEO of FNC Holdings, Inc. v
7. H. B. Atwater, Jr., former CEO of General Mills, Inc. v
8. James A. Baker III, White House chief-of-staff for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
9. James A. Baker IV, chairman of global law firm Baker Botts’ Global Projects Department.
10. Robert D. Ballard, U.S. Navy officer (ret.); U. of Rhode Island professor of oceanography. v
11. Haley Barbour, former governor of Mississippi & former chairman of Republican National Committee.
12. Donald R. Beall, CEO of Rockwell Collins. v
13. Riley P. Bechtel, billionaire chairman of Bechtel Corp. v
14. S.D. Bechtel Jr., billionaire grandson of founder of Bechtel Corp.; father of Riley (#13) v
15. James Belushi, actor.
16. Clint Black, country music singer.
17. Mike (Michael) Bloomberg, billionaire former mayor of New York City. v
18. Robert Bloomingdale, actor/producer.
19. Arthur Brooks, former Ohio state representative (D).
20. Jimmy Buffet, singer/songwriter.
21. George H.W. Bush, 41st U.S. president, died Nov. 30, 2018.
22. Robert Cohn, founder of Octel Communications, company that commercialized voice mail. v
23. Walter Cronkite, Jr., CBS Evening News anchorman, d. 2009.
24. James T. Curry, Jr, former board member of Newmont Mining Corp. v
25. K(enneth) T. Derr, board member of Halliburton Co.; former chairman & CEO of Chevron Corp. v
26. Mark DeSaulnier, Congressman (D-CA).
27. Clint Eastwood, actor/director.
28. Karl W. Eikenberry, U.S. Army lt. gen. (ret.); former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan.
29. William T. Esrey, former CEO of Sprint Corp. v
30. Peter M. Flanigan, investment banker & fundraiser for Nixon; d. 2013. v
31. William Friedkin, director.
32. Louis V. Gerstner Jr., former CEO of IBM and RJR Nabisco, former member of Bilderberg Group’s Steering Committee.
33. Peter Graves, actor, d. 2010.
34. Robert D. Haas, chairman emeritus of Levi Strauss & Co.
35. Mickey Hart, Grateful Dead rockband drummer.
36. Richard D. Hearney, U.S. Marine Corps general (ret.)
37. Peter Jackson, movie director?
38. Conrad Janis, actor.
39. Charles B. Johnson, billionaire former CEO of Franklin Resources mutual fund company. v
40. Edgar F. Kaiser Jr., financier founder of Kaiser (medical) Foundation. v
41. Henry A. Kissinger, U.S. secretary of state in Nixon & Ford administrations. v
42. Charles G. Koch, billionaire co-founder, chairman & CEO of Koch Industries.
43. David H. Koch, billionaire brother of Charles (#42); co-0wner & VP of Koch Industries.
44. Richard M. Kovacevich, former CEO of Well Fargo & Co. v
45. Art(thur) G. Linkletter, radio/TV personality, d. 2010.
46. Vernon R. Loucks Jr., former CEO of Segway, Inc. v
47. Malcolm McDowell, actor.
48. James Patrick McGillen, producer/writer? v
49. Michael Mondavi, son of Robert Mondavi, founder of Robert Mondavi Winery.
50. Robert Michael Mondavi Jr., founder of Folio Wine Co.
51. Edwin H. Morgens, chairman of investment firm Morgens, Waterfall, Vintiadis & Company, Inc. v
52. Richard M. Morrow, former chairmand & CEO of Amoco Corp., d. 2013. v
I think a few have passed on, here is the underbel... (show quote)


Did you connect the dots? Moloch, Walter Cronkite, f**e news, msm, DNC.

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Dec 5, 2019 15:42:45   #
jwrevagent
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Gaetz was able to highlight the anti-Trump bias of these "constitutional experts." Feldmann even claimed that the constitution defined bribery. How stupid. They had all three make off hand comments to the effect that the committee should v**e to impeach the president, Ms Karlon most vehemently. Gaetz brought that to the forefront. None of them now have any credibility in their "interpretation" of the constitution because they are emotionally involved in wanting to unseat Trump; not intellectually but emotionally.
Gaetz was able to highlight the anti-Trump bias of... (show quote)


And these are professors from some pretty high falutin' universities! Egad. Is this really the best this country has in intelligence and perception? We are truly in trouble!

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Dec 5, 2019 16:06:58   #
Tug484
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Their knowledge of the constitution. Feldman thought the constitution defined bribery. Karlan didn't know what treason is. Brilliant.


Absolutely.
They were so weird and all it was is their opinion.

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Dec 5, 2019 16:08:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
jwrevagent wrote:
And these are professors from some pretty high falutin' universities! Egad. Is this really the best this country has in intelligence and perception? We are truly in trouble!


Yes, we are!

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Dec 5, 2019 16:14:12   #
Tug484
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, we are!


That's why so many young people know nothing about the Constitution and want socialism.
The scary part is they're our future leaders.
God help us.

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Dec 5, 2019 18:04:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Tug484 wrote:
That's why so many young people know nothing about the Constitution and want socialism.
The scary part is they're our future leaders.
God help us.


True.

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Dec 6, 2019 10:17:19   #
jwrevagent
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
True.


History tells us that this is what happens to a republic after 200+ years, but then, these people do not know their world history, and besides humans always think it does not apply to them. Somehow, they will change the unchangeable-until you change people, you will not change human nature with all its greed, selfishness and evil inclinations-we know that is not going to happen till it all ends. So republics, by their very nature cannot last as long as monarchies and dictatorships. People discover they can game the system, and that is the beginning of the downward spiral. Cyclical theory of governments, I think it is a Toynbee theory-not sure of that, though.

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Dec 8, 2019 07:32:57   #
promilitary
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Yes, someone pointed out that Turley was the only one who didn’t walk in with his mind firmly made up to impeach.
The House was not the only voice heard. Our voices were heard in 2016.


Turley has a thought process. The other three.....I don't know what the hell was
going on there.

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