All I Expect Out Of People No Matter What They Already Believe Is To Look At New Facts
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
woodguru wrote:
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
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Indeed, that may be the case, so Woodguru you should be very scared of yourself.
Hug wrote:
Indeed, that may be the case, so Woodguru you should be very scared of yourself.
It would be nice if the right could start looking at a whole sequence of events that fit without contradictions without automatically jumping out and saying everything is BS
Hug wrote:
Same goes for the left.
I can convey a whole sequence of how long and what has taken place on a relative timeline with Trump withholding military aid to the Ukraine.
You could look at each piece of relative information and not prove a single one did not happen, meanwhile a narrative of dozens of interlinking events has it's own corroboration. Trump and Mulvaney made it clear when anti tank weapons were given to the Ukraine that they were worried about how Putin would react, newly released documents show this. Multiple OMB people openly discussed and reported that it was illegal, and there were things trump needed to do to make withholding aid legal. People quit and were replaced so that trump would have people who would sign illegal orders.
When you can talk about the array of things we know that happened that change the right wing narrative you talk to me about being willing to actually hear about the facts.
woodguru wrote:
I can convey a whole sequence of how long and what has taken place on a relative timeline with Trump withholding military aid to the Ukraine.
You could look at each piece of relative information and not prove a single one did not happen, meanwhile a narrative of dozens of interlinking events has it's own corroboration. Trump and Mulvaney made it clear when anti tank weapons were given to the Ukraine that they were worried about how Putin would react, newly released documents show this. Multiple OMB people openly discussed and reported that it was illegal, and there were things trump needed to do to make withholding aid legal. People quit and were replaced so that trump would have people who would sign illegal orders.
When you can talk about the array of things we know that happened that change the right wing narrative you talk to me about being willing to actually hear about the facts.
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Woodguru, love you like a brother, but you are a socialist and you make up facts.
woodguru wrote:
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they ... (
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"I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know."
Kind of like I've repeatedly asked you, lone hell any lefty what Trump's crimes were. You know what I got? 0. So as you said, know the facts I know dealing in facts is foreign to you. Did you know that before Trump was the only candidate I was a Cruz man? How would you, you never asked. your last paragraph is exactly why I didn't v**e for the hag. SHE is ignorant about the American spirit. And yes that is frightening. The US is a sovereign nation that she wanted to turn into a s**thole no thanks. She can go rape another little girl and yes I've met the girl and her parents, they asked that I keep their name secret.
woodguru wrote:
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they ... (
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There is an old , but probably wrong saying " Don't confuse my with your facts I have just starting to believe my own facts."
woodguru wrote:
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they ... (
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Hell I learned months ago that you and your buddies spout off and really don't know crap unless it comes out of your handlers mouth .Then its a fact.
woodguru wrote:
It would be nice if the right could start looking at a whole sequence of events that fit without contradictions without automatically jumping out and saying everything is BS
It would be nice if you realized your opinions and seeing things the way you want them to be are not facts.
woodguru wrote:
It would be nice if the right could start looking at a whole sequence of events that fit without contradictions without automatically jumping out and saying everything is BS
It would be nice if you gave up on your repetetive, redundant, and exceptionally annoying posts attempting to convince people you're right while demeaning them until they see things your way.
I hope you enjoyed your tofurkey, and kale today...
woodguru wrote:
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they first hear of something also believes that the other side, the opposition... forms their opinions the same exact way. One person argues based on a whole slew of contributing facts that leads to the conclusion and the argument is with people that formed a belief based well before all of the information was even in.
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
I have repeatedly had friends make the statement when I have asked them if they would like a rundown on what's going on, that they know everything they need to know. They admit they know nothing about the details of what was going on, but neither believe they need to know anything else or want to know.
The mind blowing thing is that people will fight over things they are truly ignorant about, and that my friends is scary in a truly frightening way...ignorance and ignorant people who form beliefs scares the crap out of me.
It's ironic but people who form beliefs when they ... (
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Just look at the facts? That's not going to work Woody. We are in the era of alternate t***hs. If an Apple Computer plant opened in Austin Texas while Obama was president it suddenly just opened under Trump as part of his MAGA. T***h under Trump is what people want to believe not what really is and no amount of telling people that just ain't so will only get you a pie in the face, if not a fist.
woodguru wrote:
It would be nice if the right could start looking at a whole sequence of events that fit without contradictions without automatically jumping out and saying everything is BS
I have challenged you L*****ts for months to conversations about Trump and the Democrats. None of you have accepted.
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woodguru wrote:
How can you say you know what the facts are when you don't know what the facts are?
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I guess to you the facts you see are never wrong !
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