On gay marriage...
kemmer wrote:
Before the 1990s, all the sexual behavior going on today was going on then; people were just sneaking around doing it.
Actually, promiscuity didn’t become common until the 60s.
My parents, neither of which were snow angels, born in 1915 & 1926 respectively, told me quite a bit about this history.
Ricktloml wrote:
Yes I will disagree. Promiscuity has rotted out the culture, and it starts with accepting what God says you shouldn't be doing.
Wasn't advocating for promiscuity..
I should have been more clear...
Sex between two individuals (even before marriage) is fine as long as there is a commitment and love between them...
Tug484 wrote:
True. Let them do what they may, but let them marry and that doesn't mean same sex.
Allowing homosexuals to marry destroys the entire meaning and purpose of matrimony and removes the intended sanctity of marriage and responsible parenting - the raising of our children. Too many illegitimate children are born by men and women shacking up - frequently in their parent's home. "Honor thy Father and mother?" Not hardly! Parents are responsible for raising legitimate children and are answerable to God if they fail through lack of responsible guidance, developing their child's character and faith. When society starts accepting overt immorality and call it by a more acceptable name, that society quickly deteriorates. That is precisely where we find America today and it wasn't by accident.
padremike wrote:
Allowing homosexuals to marry destroys the entire meaning and purpose of matrimony and removes the intended sanctity of marriage and responsible parenting - the raising of our children.
Again, why do you think this is the case? Where is your evidence?
padremike wrote:
Too many illegitimate children are born by men and women shacking up - frequently in their parent's home. "Honor thy Father and mother?" Not hardly! Parents are responsible for raising legitimate children and are answerable to God if they fail through lack of responsible guidance, developing their child's character and faith. When society starts accepting overt immorality and call it by a more acceptable name, that society quickly deteriorates. That is precisely where we find America today and it wasn't by accident.
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This ball got rolling in the 60s. What changed?
Hint:
Something changed in 1930.
Something happened in 1960.
Then we started rolling down this hill.
padremike wrote:
Allowing homosexuals to marry destroys the entire meaning and purpose of matrimony and removes the intended sanctity of marriage and responsible parenting - the raising of our children. Too many illegitimate children are born by men and women shacking up - frequently in their parent's home. "Honor thy Father and mother?" Not hardly! Parents are responsible for raising legitimate children and are answerable to God if they fail through lack of responsible guidance, developing their child's character and faith. When society starts accepting overt immorality and call it by a more acceptable name, that society quickly deteriorates. That is precisely where we find America today and it wasn't by accident.
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I think I added a short version at the end of my post.
Bless you.
Some of us know the t***h, don't we sir?
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Wasn't advocating for promiscuity..
I should have been more clear...
Sex between two individuals (even before marriage) is fine as long as there is a commitment and love between them...
Where in the bible does it say that? It explicitly says otherwise.
Tug484 wrote:
Corinthians 7:36
If anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, and if a critical moment has come and so it has to be, let him do as he wishes. He is committing no sin; let them get married.
Note- virgin
not lover
This was written during a time of severe persecution, so Paul was advising against marriage under these circumstances.
However, it was no sin to marry, just unwise.
Tug484 wrote:
Corinthians 7:36
That verse doesn’t mean sex before marriage is okay. If it did then that would mean the bible contradicts itself which it doesn’t.
The ones being addressed are the fathers not the prospective husbands. In Corinth some fathers dedicated their daughters to the Lord as permanent virgins. When the daughters were old enough to marry and insisted on being married their fathers were free to break the vow and let them marry
Source - condensed from various commentaries. None had that this meant sex before marriage was okay.
Rose42 wrote:
That verse doesn’t mean sex before marriage is okay. If it did then that would mean the bible contradicts itself which it doesn’t.
The ones being addressed are the fathers not the prospective husbands. In Corinth some fathers dedicated their daughters to the Lord as permanent virgins. When the daughters were old enough to marry and insisted on being married their fathers were free to break the vow and let them marry
Source - condensed from various commentaries. None had that this meant sex before marriage was okay.
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I'm sure God meant to be specific towards one city
Rose42 wrote:
That verse doesn’t mean sex before marriage is okay. If it did then that would mean the bible contradicts itself which it doesn’t.
The ones being addressed are the fathers not the prospective husbands. In Corinth some fathers dedicated their daughters to the Lord as permanent virgins. When the daughters were old enough to marry and insisted on being married their fathers were free to break the vow and let them marry
Source - condensed from various commentaries. None had that this meant sex before marriage was okay.
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It says something about if urges can't be controlled.
Saspatz007 wrote:
Actually the Bible says nothing about smoking and only warns against getting drunk.
Cursing and premarital sex are off limits.
I was always told that the body was gods temple? Is that incorrect?
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