On gay marriage...
Actually the Bible says nothing about smoking and only warns against getting drunk.
Cursing and premarital sex are off limits.
PeterS wrote:
Sad but true...
To say something is a sin that isn't a sin is a sin. Smoking and having a drink are not sins unless they are in excess. You probably don't understand that everything listed in your silly atheistic meme is forgivable for those who desire to amend their life and confess their sins. Likewise they are not forgiven for everyone, even yourself, who never seeks forgiveness.
PeterS wrote:
Sad but true...
What's your point petey bird? Oh ya, you like to bash Christian's don't ya. Sad but true.
By the way petey, you're a d********g human being, but you knew that, right?
PeterS wrote:
Sad but true...
None of those are sins...
Smoking and drinking are fine...
Cursing is allowed...Just not taking the Lord's name in vain...
Premarital sex is fine as long as neither party is married... (gonna get some disagreement on this one
)
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
None of those are sins...
Smoking and drinking are fine...
Cursing is allowed...Just not taking the Lord's name in vain...
Premarital sex is fine as long as neither party is married... (gonna get some disagreement on this one
)
Not from me. You are one of the few people using one political plaze who virtually correct with your views.
Dwight Logan wrote:
Not from me. You are one of the few people using one political plaze who virtually correct with your views.
I might argue that point...
But not immediately
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
None of those are sins...
Smoking and drinking are fine...
Cursing is allowed...Just not taking the Lord's name in vain...
Premarital sex is fine as long as neither party is married... (gonna get some disagreement on this one
)
Kyle, or course you're going to get disagreement on "that one" and also cursing. We don't get to make our own changes to Christ's teachings. The T***h is that sex outside lawful marriage is always sinful, it's lust. I realize most people can resist anything except temptation; fallen human nature and a weakness of individual free causes all of us to sin. The Good News is to recognize our sins, confess them & work to amend our life - we require God's Grace because we can't go to the drug store and purchase a pint of free Grace. God The Father created us, God The Son Redeemed us, God The Holy Spirit sanctified us. This tells us that our loving God provides unlimited help right now, here in the present, not in the past and not in the future. We cannot seek forgiveness for our sins if we don't acknowledge and admit them.
Based on your comment today i'm thinking we need to retreat to my little portable asbestos confessional. I can set aside the first three weeks of January for you to "unburden" yourself. 😇
padremike wrote:
Kyle, or course you're going to get disagreement on "that one" and also cursing. We don't get to make our own changes to Christ's teachings. The T***h is that sex outside lawful marriage is always sinful, it's lust. I realize most people can resist anything except temptation; fallen human nature and a weakness of individual free causes all of us to sin. The Good News is to recognize our sins, confess them & work to amend our life - we require God's Grace because we can't go to the drug store and purchase a pint of free Grace. God The Father created us, God The Son Redeemed us, God The Holy Spirit sanctified us. This tells us that our loving God provides unlimited help right now, here in the present, not in the past and not in the future. We cannot seek forgiveness for our sins if we don't acknowledge and admit them.
Based on your comment today i'm thinking we need to retreat to my little portable asbestos confessional. I can set aside the first three weeks of January for you to "unburden" yourself. 😇
Kyle, or course you're going to get disagreement o... (
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Always happy to receive disagreement from you Padre
It ranks just behind agreement from you in my?books
Ah..Lust... There's a sin for yah, eh
But it seems to me that there were more than a few times in the Bible where sex outside of marriage was not only condoned, but instructed...
Perhaps the situation should be considered?
How'd you know my holidays start in January
Three weeks....I'll try to shorten the list and only talk about the serious stuff
Glad to see you're doing well
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Always happy to receive disagreement from you Padre
It ranks just behind agreement from you in my?books
Ah..Lust... There's a sin for yah, eh
But it seems to me that there were more than a few times in the Bible where sex outside of marriage was not only condoned, but instructed...
Perhaps the situation should be considered?
How'd you know my holidays start in January
Three weeks....I'll try to shorten the list and only talk about the serious stuff
Glad to see you're doing well
Always happy to receive disagreement from you Padr... (
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Off hand, I cannot recall sex outside of marriage being sanctioned. Psalm 51 is King David's confession for adultery. A couple other verses....
1 Thessalonians 4:3-7 3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The LORD will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
Ephesians 5:3-5 3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person-such a person is an idolater-has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
With the Confession of sin the angels rejoice. With the compromise of sin Satan is gleeful.
Off now to lock myself in the arms of Morpheus, the mythological Greek God of sleep - very pagan! 😬
padremike wrote:
Off hand, I cannot recall sex outside of marriage being sanctioned. Psalm 51 is King David's confession for adultery. A couple other verses....
1 Thessalonians 4:3-7 3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The LORD will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
Ephesians 5:3-5 3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person-such a person is an idolater-has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
With the Confession of sin the angels rejoice. With the compromise of sin Satan is gleeful.
Off now to lock myself in the arms of Morpheus, the mythological Greek God of sleep - very pagan! 😬
Off hand, I cannot recall sex outside of marriage ... (
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Sleep well..
I'll look for the verses I'm thinking of...
The Bible calls premarital sex “fornication.” It is repeatedly condemned in Scripture along with all other forms of sexual immorality (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13,18; 10:8; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes abstinence before marriage as the standard of godliness. Sex before marriage is just as wrong as adultery and other forms of sexual immorality because they all involve having sex with someone other than your spouse.
T***slations of fornication
noun
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πορνεία
prostitution, fornication, whoring, whoredom, harlotry, white s***ery
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συνουσία
fornication, coition, intercourse, copulation
padremike wrote:
Kyle, or course you're going to get disagreement on "that one" and also cursing. We don't get to make our own changes to Christ's teachings. The T***h is that sex outside lawful marriage is always sinful, it's lust. I realize most people can resist anything except temptation; fallen human nature and a weakness of individual free causes all of us to sin. The Good News is to recognize our sins, confess them & work to amend our life - we require God's Grace because we can't go to the drug store and purchase a pint of free Grace. God The Father created us, God The Son Redeemed us, God The Holy Spirit sanctified us. This tells us that our loving God provides unlimited help right now, here in the present, not in the past and not in the future. We cannot seek forgiveness for our sins if we don't acknowledge and admit them.
Based on your comment today i'm thinking we need to retreat to my little portable asbestos confessional. I can set aside the first three weeks of January for you to "unburden" yourself. 😇
Kyle, or course you're going to get disagreement o... (
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True. Let them do what they may, but let them marry and that doesn't mean same sex.
PeterS wrote:
Sad but true...
Packing fudge is just fine ? Maybe in your eyes.
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