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Nov 14, 2019 16:43:28   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
PeterS wrote:
Sounds like a Socialist to me!!!


Our government gives out food and healthcare, next?

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Nov 14, 2019 17:05:48   #
debeda
 
PeterS wrote:
Sounds like a Socialist to me!!!


You really are such a dipstick

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Nov 14, 2019 20:33:03   #
Tug484
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
He threw the tables over from people who were profiting from selling animals for sacrifices in the house of God! U athedists love to twist the word of Gid! Why don’t you read it instead! That makes u look stupid !



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Nov 14, 2019 21:07:43   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Everything sounds socialist to you, even the chirping of crickets.

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If anecdotal evidence isn't evidence what is?

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Nov 14, 2019 21:14:35   #
PeterS
 
debeda wrote:
You really are such a dipstick

Why, do you think Christ would approve of the greed-based economic system we employ today? He could have sold his services and retired one of the wealthiest Jews around. If he was a capitalist why didn't he behave as such?

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Nov 14, 2019 21:15:30   #
PeterS
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Our government gives out food and healthcare, next?

Education...oh my...

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Nov 14, 2019 21:52:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
Why, do you think Christ would approve of the greed-based economic system we employ today? He could have sold his services and retired one of the wealthiest Jews around. If he was a capitalist why didn't he behave as such?


Christ didn't care about wealth....

Or the poor for that matter...

He was concerned with our souls...

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Nov 14, 2019 22:07:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
Why, do you think Christ would approve of the greed-based economic system we employ today? He could have sold his services and retired one of the wealthiest Jews around. If he was a capitalist why didn't he behave as such?


You familiar with the parable of the workers in the vineyard? There are several other great examples Christ gave us but I suspect your mind is already firmly fixed on what you personally think. Peter, your comments frequently remind me of a story about an atheist who h**ed God so much that when Jesus returned he shook his fist and curse Him.

Christ came to us humbly as a suffering servant in great humility. Satan tempted him with wealth and power and Jesus ordered Satan to depart from Him. You familiar with Simony? It's particularly a potential sin of the clergy.

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Nov 15, 2019 02:19:40   #
PeterS
 
padremike wrote:
You familiar with the parable of the workers in the vineyard? There are several other great examples Christ gave us but I suspect your mind is already firmly fixed on what you personally think. Peter, your comments frequently remind me of a story about an atheist who h**ed God so much that when Jesus returned he shook his fist and curse Him.

Christ came to us humbly as a suffering servant in great humility. Satan tempted him with wealth and power and Jesus ordered Satan to depart from Him. You familiar with Simony? It's particularly a potential sin of the clergy.
You familiar with the parable of the workers in th... (show quote)

I'm assuming because Christ was tempted with wealth and power and rejected them as a temptation from Satan that is why you elected a billionaire seeking more wealth and power as your president? And what I find so ironic is that so many Evangelical fundamentalists see Trump as chosen by god to be president of this country.

What's the parable...It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven?

And what you don't understand padre is that you can't h**e what you don't think exists. I don't think Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy exist yet I h**e neither of them.

And I would never curse Christ. I am like Jefferson and think he was one of the greatest philosophers ever to live. And just like Jefferson, I think being a great philosopher doesn't make you a god.

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Nov 15, 2019 02:22:20   #
PeterS
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Christ didn't care about wealth....

Or the poor for that matter...

He was concerned with our souls...


To paraphrase: 'A camel has a better chance of passing through the eye of a needle than a rich man has in entering the Kingdom of Heaven'

That's a strange thing for someone to say who doesn't care about wealth.

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Nov 15, 2019 03:46:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
To paraphrase: 'A camel has a better chance of passing through the eye of a needle than a rich man has in entering the Kingdom of Heaven'

That's a strange thing for someone to say who doesn't care about wealth.


Not really...

Read the whole passage...

Or better yet... I'll pass along something another member shared with me... With his permission first

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Nov 15, 2019 04:18:59   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
If anecdotal evidence isn't evidence what is?
Anecdotal evidence is typically based on personal observations or experiences. Since anecdotal evidence is not considered scientific evidence (not objective or measurable), it should not be used to support or advance arguments.

When we celebrate Christmas, we are celebrating the birth of Jesus, like before He even said "Mama".
Babies are innocent little ones, aren't they?

That is why we decorate with a star, angels and nativity scenes. And, at our candle light services, we read the story of His birth in Mathew or Luke.

Politicizing the birth of our Savior is disgraceful.

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


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Nov 15, 2019 04:30:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Anecdotal evidence is typically based on personal observations or experiences. Since anecdotal evidence is not considered scientific evidence (not objective or measurable), it should not be used to support or advance argument.


Could one not use anecdotal evidence to support a subjective premise

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Nov 15, 2019 07:48:51   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
I'm assuming because Christ was tempted with wealth and power and rejected them as a temptation from Satan that is why you elected a billionaire seeking more wealth and power as your president? And what I find so ironic is that so many Evangelical fundamentalists see Trump as chosen by god to be president of this country.

What's the parable...It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven?

And what you don't understand padre is that you can't h**e what you don't think exists. I don't think Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy exist yet I h**e neither of them.

And I would never curse Christ. I am like Jefferson and think he was one of the greatest philosophers ever to live. And just like Jefferson, I think being a great philosopher doesn't make you a god.
I'm assuming because Christ was tempted with wealt... (show quote)



Your question about the camel and needle: While some say that the Lord was speaking about the physical impossibility of a camel passing through the eye of a sewing needle, the 11th century saint, Theophylact of Bulgaria, says that the Lord here was referring to a certain gate in Jerusalem called the Needle's Eye, that was built so low that a camel could only pass if it entered kneeling and unencumbered with baggage. The lesson would then be that an eternal inheritance awaits those who unburden themselves of the things of this world, and in particular, sin. The Old Testament gives examples of rich men who were righteous God fearing men. I fully understand this is not the explanation you desire but since Christ, to you, is merely a philosopher, Hillary would join with you in saying "What difference does it make?"

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Nov 15, 2019 15:44:37   #
Tug484
 
padremike wrote:
Your question about the camel and needle: While some say that the Lord was speaking about the physical impossibility of a camel passing through the eye of a sewing needle, the 11th century saint, Theophylact of Bulgaria, says that the Lord here was referring to a certain gate in Jerusalem called the Needle's Eye, that was built so low that a camel could only pass if it entered kneeling and unencumbered with baggage. The lesson would then be that an eternal inheritance awaits those who unburden themselves of the things of this world, and in particular, sin. The Old Testament gives examples of rich men who were righteous God fearing men. I fully understand this is not the explanation you desire but since Christ, to you, is merely a philosopher, Hillary would join with you in saying "What difference does it make?"
Your question about the camel and needle: While so... (show quote)

You're right Padre. It refers to that gate.

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