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Nov 12, 2019 18:20:24   #
debeda
 
padremike wrote:
Deb, The comments from these two are hilarious all the while patting one another on the butt, smiling in continuous agreement. The interest they've generated for rebuttal is zero because we recognize they are only repeaters of f**e news in which they are thoroughly engaged. I can't say they are kool Aid drinkers because my understanding is they've cut their liquor consumption in half - They've tossed out the chaser. Kool Aid as a chaser? it's as cheap as their comments!



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Nov 12, 2019 21:39:30   #
Navigator
 
JediKnight wrote:
Wood: ForeverTrumpers will never admit to Trump's criminal activity because they are incapable of comprehending t***h. Yes, they know that Trump is an unfit and corrupt liar, but they have bought into his bs because they so badly want to be 'superior' and in charge of everyone else, for starters. Any sane person can see that Trump is corrupt, and a seriously flawed person.

You will never get these types to even understand that "the president does NOT investigate foreign nations -even if he/she suspects that nation of corruption" - largely because we have an AG (although the current guy has been bought and sold by republicans), and numerous "intelligence agencies" who have the job of investigating corruption. These republicans will use ANY lie they can conceive in their continued pathetic scheme to support Trump. However, I've said it before, and its worth repeating: Trump, and his complicit republicans time of honoring themselves will soon be at its end - thank God!
Wood: ForeverTrumpers will never admit to Trump's ... (show quote)


Some things are completely subjective and unprovable like your statement that Trump is seriously flawed; what some people see as flaws others see as strengths. Other things are objective and without question for example your two charges that Trump has engaged in extensive criminal activity and is seriously corrupt; neither charge is true and not just b/c neither has been proven (they have not been) but merely b/c his behavior does not meet the definition of either of those things.

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Nov 12, 2019 21:43:13   #
debeda
 
Navigator wrote:
Some things are completely subjective and unprovable like your statement that Trump is seriously flawed; what some people see as flaws others see as strengths. Other things are objective and without question for example your two charges that Trump has engaged in extensive criminal activity and is seriously corrupt; neither charge is true and not just b/c neither has been proven (they have not been) but merely b/c his behavior does not meet the definition of either of those things.


Well said, Navigator

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Nov 12, 2019 22:26:47   #
teabag09
 
JediKnight wrote:
I would really like to know what legitimate source you take your opinion from -it sounds like something you just made up. It is not the president's job to withhold Congressionally approved funds because the president wants to start a corrupt investigation against a political opponent. Nor is it the president's job to investigate corruption of a foreign country -that's why we have all of those intelligence agencies and the court system. By the way, you failed to mention just "what certain legal actions Ukraine was supposed to take" to get the money already approved for them by congress. I would say "nice try though" - but it wasn't.
I would really like to know what legitimate source... (show quote)


Excuse me, it is the Presidents responsibility when we have a treaty, signed by President Bill Clinton, to investigate corruption between the Countries. Educate yourself or STFU. Quit making yourself look foolish which you have a perchance to do. Mike

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Nov 12, 2019 22:31:30   #
teabag09
 
JediKnight wrote:
One day all lying will cease....until then, it is good that we have many who do not sip the kool-aide, and know T***H when they hear and see it. You are correct on one thing though, the call was NOT perfect, but it is impeachable. Trump is unfit to lead. period.


One day the lying will cease and that will be the day when all demoncrats are done away with. It's the only thing y'all know how to do. President Trump is totally fit to lead, he's been kicking y'alls asses for three years and put our Country back on track leading the world in a right direction. Mike

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Nov 12, 2019 22:40:32   #
teabag09
 
JediKnight wrote:
Wood: ForeverTrumpers will never admit to Trump's criminal activity because they are incapable of comprehending t***h. Yes, they know that Trump is an unfit and corrupt liar, but they have bought into his bs because they so badly want to be 'superior' and in charge of everyone else, for starters. Any sane person can see that Trump is corrupt, and a seriously flawed person.

You will never get these types to even understand that "the president does NOT investigate foreign nations -even if he/she suspects that nation of corruption" - largely because we have an AG (although the current guy has been bought and sold by republicans), and numerous "intelligence agencies" who have the job of investigating corruption. These republicans will use ANY lie they can conceive in their continued pathetic scheme to support Trump. However, I've said it before, and its worth repeating: Trump, and his complicit republicans time of honoring themselves will soon be at its end - thank God!
Wood: ForeverTrumpers will never admit to Trump's ... (show quote)


Here we go again, the left accusing the right of exactly what they, the left, are doing. Go look in the mirror and make that statement again because it is YOU who is deceiving yourself with your sanctimonious hypocrisy. It must frost your and Woodie's ass to be wrong so often. Mike

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Nov 13, 2019 10:53:12   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
I believe that any President of this country has the obligation to ask a alliance partner, to investigate , what they believe to have been, a crime committed in a foreign country by Americans, especially if it is to have a American Congress man trying to get dirt on the opposition candidate. Where in the transcript does it state, Trump held monies that were to be for Ukrainian protection. I only have seen that he had asked for a favor. No coercion of any kind. Just false speculation from none other than the far left. Where would it ever hurt our countries security. Yahoo is a real journalistic forum to see the t***h about any conservative.
I believe that any President of this country has t... (show quote)


You are mincing words here Louie. More than 7 witnesses to Trump's crime have testified that they KNEW what Trump told Sondland and Giuliani to do....they also have text messages in which Trump's aides discussed the plan, while others balked at it. Yes, some of these witnesses are Trump republicans, and they have testified that it was extortion by way of quid-pro-quo. Your refusal to accept the t***h is astonishing in that even Mulvaney (one of Trump's top supporters) went on the news and said, "yes, it was quid-pro-quo but its not illegal" -and quite to his consternation - it is illegal.

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Nov 13, 2019 20:44:14   #
Navigator
 
JediKnight wrote:
You are mincing words here Louie. More than 7 witnesses to Trump's crime have testified that they KNEW what Trump told Sondland and Giuliani to do....they also have text messages in which Trump's aides discussed the plan, while others balked at it. Yes, some of these witnesses are Trump republicans, and they have testified that it was extortion by way of quid-pro-quo. Your refusal to accept the t***h is astonishing in that even Mulvaney (one of Trump's top supporters) went on the news and said, "yes, it was quid-pro-quo but its not illegal" -and quite to his consternation - it is illegal.
You are mincing words here Louie. More than 7 witn... (show quote)


Again, its called opinion, not t***h.

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Nov 14, 2019 13:12:40   #
JediKnight
 
Navigator wrote:
Again, its called opinion, not t***h.


When you "witness" something happening, right or wrong, and share what you saw and or heard - it is not opinion....its FACT.

I am willing to wager that had the shoe been on the other foot, and it was a republican testifying against Obama - you would call that testimony fact for sure....right?

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Nov 14, 2019 15:48:32   #
debeda
 
JediKnight wrote:
When you "witness" something happening, right or wrong, and share what you saw and or heard - it is not opinion....its FACT.

I am willing to wager that had the shoe been on the other foot, and it was a republican testifying against Obama - you would call that testimony fact for sure....right?


The problem? Not witnesses. Hearsay.

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Nov 14, 2019 17:19:38   #
JediKnight
 
debeda wrote:
The problem? Not witnesses. Hearsay.


Nope...Sondland testified that he knew what Trump wanted....and since he got his marching orders from Trump that is not hearsay.

One more thing: Trump is recorded actually telling one of his aides, "....but no "quid-pro-quo"...."

Why would he even say that unless he knew or suspected his aides would go the quid-pro-quo route?

Do you ever say: "Honey, don't drive the street butt naked at 100 miles an hour snorting cocaine because its illegal?"
So, why would Trump have to warn his aides NOT to do something everyone knows is illegal?
Hmmmm…..

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Nov 14, 2019 17:20:20   #
debeda
 
JediKnight wrote:
Nope...Sondland testified that he knew what Trump wanted....and since he got his marching orders from Trump that is not hearsay.


Wrong again, master of the youverse

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Nov 14, 2019 17:50:13   #
JediKnight
 
debeda wrote:
Wrong again, master of the youverse


There you go again....hating me cause you ain't me! sad.

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Nov 15, 2019 13:56:16   #
Navigator
 
JediKnight wrote:
Nope...Sondland testified that he knew what Trump wanted....and since he got his marching orders from Trump that is not hearsay.

One more thing: Trump is recorded actually telling one of his aides, "....but no "quid-pro-quo"...."

Why would he even say that unless he knew or suspected his aides would go the quid-pro-quo route?

Do you ever say: "Honey, don't drive the street butt naked at 100 miles an hour snorting cocaine because its illegal?"
So, why would Trump have to warn his aides NOT to do something everyone knows is illegal?
Hmmmm…..
Nope...Sondland testified that he knew what Trump ... (show quote)


Just listen to yourself."Sondland testified that he knew what Trump wanted". That is not fact but opinion based on Sondland's TDS ESP.

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Nov 15, 2019 14:12:33   #
debeda
 
Navigator wrote:
Just listen to yourself."Sondland testified that he knew what Trump wanted". That is not fact but opinion based on Sondland's TDS ESP.



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