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Parky60 wrote:
To call yourself a Christian is self-delusion.
The very word “Christ” means an anointed person. It was something given to people, like King Saul for instance. When David said he wouldn’t touch the Lord’s “anointed”, speaking of Saul, he was saying he wouldn’t touch the Lord’s “Christ.”
The law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Not pagan philosophy, and not antichristian Gnosticism, which invented the trinity and the dual nature doctrine of Trinitarians.
Parky60 wrote:
To call yourself a Christian is self-delusion.
Consider the meaning of the term "Christian"...
TommyRadd wrote:
The very word “Christ” means an anointed person. It was something given to people, like King Saul for instance. When David said he wouldn’t touch the Lord’s “anointed”, speaking of Saul, he was saying he wouldn’t touch the Lord’s “Christ.”
The law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Not pagan philosophy, and not antichristian Gnosticism, which invented the trinity and the dual nature doctrine of Trinitarians.
Thanks Tommy...
I just asked Parky to look up the term Christian... Hope this helps him..
Parky60
Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thanks Tommy...
I just asked Parky to look up the term Christian... Hope this helps him..
To be a Christian is to be a bondservant to and believe in Jesus Christ. And how do you become a Christian? As it says in Romans: Confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. For with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Bottom line is you have to believe in your heart and not just be giving lip service. Beacause if you do believe in in your heart you will have a true conversion and become a new man. I am evidence of that. I'm not perfect because my body has not been redeemed yet but I am a work in progress, But I am saved. Are you? Note that a tree is known by its fruit. And it appears to me that your fruit is rotten based on your posts.
TommyRadd wrote:
Thank you too, CD
Feel free to correct the my understanding of Matthew 28 as well
Parky60 wrote:
To be a Christian is to be a bondservant to and believe in Jesus Christ. And how do you become a Christian? As it says in Romans: Confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. For with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Bottom line is you have to believe in your heart and not just be giving lip service. Beacause if you do believe in in your heart you will have a true conversion and become a new man. I am evidence of that. I'm not perfect because my body has not been redeemed yet but I am a work in progress, But I am saved. Are you? Note that a tree is known by its fruit. And it appears to me that your fruit is rotten based on your posts.
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We agree on all of that... Except for your last statement... I'm not the one denigrating others for having a different understanding...
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Parky60 wrote:
To be a Christian is to be a bondservant to and believe in Jesus Christ. And how do you become a Christian? As it says in Romans: Confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. For with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Bottom line is you have to believe in your heart and not just be giving lip service. Beacause if you do believe in in your heart you will have a true conversion and become a new man. I am evidence of that. I'm not perfect because my body has not been redeemed yet but I am a work in progress, But I am saved. Are you? Note that a tree is known by its fruit. And it appears to me that your fruit is rotten based on your posts.
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Romans 10 isn’t the only passage that talks about salvation. What is wrong with Acts 2:38? Was Peter wrong?
If Jesus was God “he” couldn’t die. You can’t believe that God raised “him” from the dead if you can’t believe that “he” actually died. It doesn’t say “only his human nature died”. Scripture doesn’t teach that. That is an antichristian lie.
The scripture says God raised “him” from the dead.
In order to believe in the Trinity you have to redefine biblical words using pagan concepts. For example father and son. Those words mean something specific. In fact, they have moral and hierarchical ramifications. A father is always superior in rank and prior in time. The only exception is Christ as son of David, because Christ is firstborn from the dead and has preeminence over all mankind, David included.
God is the Father of Christ. There is no coequality between them biblically.
“ 24Then the end comes, when he will deliver up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he will have abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection,"
it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. 28When all things have been subjected to him,
then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.” 1 Corinthians 15:24-28
Jesus is not coequal with the Father.
“ Jesus said to her, "Don't hold me, for I haven't yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, 'I am ascending
to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" John 20:17
Parky60
Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We agree on all of that... Except for your last statement... I'm not the one denigrating others for having a different understanding...
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I am not denigrating you. I am merely using my Spirit-led discernment to make an observation about you.
And there are not different understandings of the non-negotiable doctrines in the Bible. There is only one and among them are that Jesus Christ is God who is co-equal with God the Father and God the Son.
Parky60 wrote:
I am not denigrating you. I am merely using my Spirit-led discernment to make an observation about you.
And there are not different understandings of the non-negotiable doctrines in the Bible. There is only one and among them are that Jesus Christ is God who is co-equal with God the Father and God the Son.
Can you provide the Bible passage that states that Jesus Christ is co-equal to God? I missed it...
Parky60 wrote:
I am not denigrating you. I am merely using my Spirit-led discernment to make an observation about you.
And there are not different understandings of the non-negotiable doctrines in the Bible. There is only one and among them are that Jesus Christ is God who is co-equal with God the Father and God the Son.
Absolutely right. And it never fails that those who deny the trinity deny other things about Christ’s nature and believe other false doctrine.
There is only one truth.
Parky60 wrote:
I am not denigrating you. I am merely using my Spirit-led discernment to make an observation about you.
And there are not different understandings of the non-negotiable doctrines in the Bible. There is only one and among them are that Jesus Christ is God who is co-equal with God the Father and God the Son.
You've called me a fence sitter, ignorant, a false Christian, and wishy-washy...
Do you not understand the term "denegrate"?
Rose42 wrote:
Absolutely right. And it never fails that those who deny the trinity deny other things about Christ’s nature and believe other false doctrine.
There is only one truth.
Nope... Unlike people who accept the concept of the Trinity and get it all right....
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Nope... Unlike people who accept the concept of the Trinity and get it all right....
That was never the point.
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