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Nov 10, 2019 10:54:38   #
kemmer
 
woodguru wrote:
Nah, it's more fun torturing Trump and watch him wiggle in his guilt, he's toast and he'll be lucky not to be charged with treason for blocking military aid to the Ukraine in a way that benefitted Putin. Put any single conversation where Putin discussed not providing military aid to the Ukraine in view...and heaven help him, because he'll need it.

You can't make this stuff up! Putin has invited Trump to Moscow for Russia's big Victory Over the N**is day in May in Moscow, where all of Putin's military hardware is on parade. Trump absolutely goes apes**t over this kind of stuff and said he might attend. TRump's probably even now have some minions design some sort of military uniform for him to wear.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:00:39   #
CarryOn
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump lost the elction by 3,000,000 v**es.


Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the campaign knowing what the rules are (e*******l college), and they go into it (supposedly) accepting the outcome according to the rules. If you lose by those rules that you accepted, then you LOSE. PERIOD. And the other guy WINS, by the rules. So you can claim that all you want, but the fact is, T***P W*N, and, what I especially like to point out, HILLARY LOST!!!

If the rules were different, then the campaigns would have been run in a different way.

If you can't accept that, then you're just one more whiny-ass liberal blaming anything or anyone else for YOUR LOSS. Go write a book or something, kemmie. Maybe it will make you feel better.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:14:16   #
AHO-C
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you still h*****g on that lie?

Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine

In 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea and began arming separatists in eastern Ukraine with tanks, armored vehicles and rocket launchers, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko came to Washington to plead for weapons to defend his country. In an impassioned address to a joint session of Congress — with Biden sitting directly behind him — Poroshenko said his country appreciated the nonlethal assistance he was getting, but declared “one cannot win a war with blankets.”

The Obama-Biden administration was unmoved. The Wall Street Journal reported at the time that “President Barack Obama stuck to his refusal to provide weapons or other lethal military gear to Ukraine.” Why?

Team Obama feared that lethal aid would provoke Moscow.

So what did the administration give him? Instead of rocket-propelled grenades, we provided food rations. As one frustrated former Pentagon official put it at the time, “What kind of message does that send anyway?”

Answer: a message of weakness.

When Trump took office, he delivered a message of strength. In December 2017, the new administration announced that the United States would send the lethal aid to Ukraine that Poroshenko requested and Obama and Biden refused — the sale of $47 million worth of Javelin antitank missiles.

In May 2018, after Ukraine tested its new Javelin missiles, Poroshenko exulted on Twitter “Finally this day has come!” and personally thanked Trump “for supporting Ukraine and adopting a decision to provide Javelin antitank missile systems.”

For Biden to now attack Trump for a temporary delay in a new round of lethal military aid reeks of hypocrisy. It was on Biden’s watch that the United States refused to deliver military aid at all. Yet the same vice president who sat there impassively while Ukraine’s president begged for weapons now dares to cite the Russian threat to Ukraine in castigating Trump?

Talk about chutzpah.

And since Biden raised the Russian threat, let’s recall that the Obama-Biden administration bears much responsibility for the ­annexation of Crimea that necessitated the delivery of lethal aid to Ukraine in the first place. Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine came in the aftermath of the Obama-Biden administration’s failure to enforce its red line against Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons by Syria.

In March 2013, Biden declared, “Because we recognize the great danger Assad’s chemical and biological arsenals pose to Israel and the United States, to the whole world, we’ve set a clear red line against the use or the t***sfer of those weapons.”

Assad responded by using chemical weapons on innocent civilians not once, but 16 times. And yet Team Obama did nothing, failing to carry out even “unbelievably small” military strikes — a decision Biden publicly defended. “We can easily say we should have bombed and gone in and taken out their air defense system,” Biden said. “Well, you know, big nations can’t bluff.”

Bluff is what Obama and Biden did — and Assad called their bluff. Not only that, they turned to Russia for a face-saving way out, letting Russian President Vladimir Putin broker a phony deal to have Syria disarm. It was one of the most embarrassing foreign-policy debacles of the post-Cold War era.

So it should come as no surprise that, when Team Obama threatened to impose costs on Putin if he invaded Ukraine, the Kremlin called his bluff. Putin knew Biden and his boss didn’t have the will to stand up to him in Ukraine. And he was proved right when they refused to give Ukraine lethal aid for fear of further provoking him.

None of this excuses Trump’s delaying a new round of lethal military aid to Ukraine. But if this military assistance was as vital to countering the Russian threat as Biden says, then it’s fair to ask: Why didn’t the United States provide it when Biden was the Obama administration’s point man on Ukraine?
Are you still h*****g on that lie? br br b Sorr... (show quote)


Blade the D's think that "Talkin' Schitt" equates to telling the t***h !! That's why I don't even argue with them anymore......I'm biding my time and saving my energy in case 'The Real C**p' starts !!
Also , when the public began calling Andrew Jackson ( 1st Democrat President ) a Jackass ( well at least they got the Ass part right....I think Hole at the end of Ass would have been more appropriate....instead of Jack in the front ! ), the name stuck as the 'mascotte' as they say en France' !!



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Nov 10, 2019 11:15:33   #
kemmer
 
CarryOn wrote:
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the campaign knowing what the rules are (e*******l college), and they go into it (supposedly) accepting the outcome according to the rules. If you lose by those rules that you accepted, then you LOSE. PERIOD. And the other guy WINS, by the rules. So you can claim that all you want, but the fact is, T***P W*N, and, what I especially like to point out, HILLARY LOST!!!

If the rules were different, then the campaigns would have been run in a different way.

If you can't accept that, then you're just one more whiny-ass liberal blaming anything or anyone else for YOUR LOSS. Go write a book or something, kemmie. Maybe it will make you feel better.
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the camp... (show quote)

Tell that to your dear leader who keeps yapping about how he won in a landslide.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:29:26   #
CarryOn
 
kemmer wrote:
Tell that to your dear leader who keeps yapping about how he won in a landslide.


Well, according to the rules (e*******l college) he DID win by a landslide .. 304 to 227 ..

No doubt if Hillary had won (ugh) by the same numbers of e*******l v**es, "won by a landslide" would have been turned into some kind of logo for the party.

Again, by the rules, Trump not only won .. he won by a landslide. 304 to 227 …. Nothing else matters at all. And all the whining and sniveling and blaming won't make any difference.

Sucks to be the loser. But you'd think that after almost three years the whining and blaming and pretending otherwise … well … you guys should maybe seek help to get over it already. Geez ….

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Nov 10, 2019 11:36:29   #
EmilyD
 
CarryOn wrote:
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the campaign knowing what the rules are (e*******l college), and they go into it (supposedly) accepting the outcome according to the rules. If you lose by those rules that you accepted, then you LOSE. PERIOD. And the other guy WINS, by the rules. So you can claim that all you want, but the fact is, T***P W*N, and, what I especially like to point out, HILLARY LOST!!!

If the rules were different, then the campaigns would have been run in a different way.

If you can't accept that, then you're just one more whiny-ass liberal blaming anything or anyone else for YOUR LOSS. Go write a book or something, kemmie. Maybe it will make you feel better.
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the camp... (show quote)


It's all kemmie has to go on...he's been saying this for three years now! Pretty pathetic.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:37:50   #
kemmer
 
CarryOn wrote:
Well, according to the rules (e*******l college) he DID win by a landslide .. 304 to 227 ..

No doubt if Hillary had won (ugh) by the same numbers of e*******l v**es, "won by a landslide" would have been turned into some kind of logo for the party.

Again, by the rules, Trump not only won .. he won by a landslide. 304 to 227 …. Nothing else matters at all. And all the whining and sniveling and blaming won't make any difference.

Sucks to be the loser. But you'd think that after almost three years the whining and blaming and pretending otherwise … well … you guys should maybe seek help to get over it already. Geez ….
Well, according to the rules (e*******l college) h... (show quote)

2016 is long forgotten in the face of the national calamity Trump has inflicted on the nation. We’ve never had a more ill-equipt or virtually pro-autocracy president in our history.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:44:39   #
CarryOn
 
kemmer wrote:
2016 is long forgotten in the face of the national calamity Trump has inflicted on the nation. We’ve never had a more ill-equipt or virtually pro-autocracy president in our history.


Oh, so now it isn't about the number of v**es (according to the rules) it's about how everybody's forgotten about the 2016 race so it doesn't matter? I see. Well, it doesn't look like you've forgotten about it, since you were the one who brought it up. Then when you get called out you try to dismiss it and move to another insult. Please get help.

NWMT.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:52:03   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
2016 is long forgotten in the face of the national calamity Trump has inflicted on the nation. We’ve never had a more ill-equipt or virtually pro-autocracy president in our history.


So now you change the subject that YOU brought up because you don't like being reminded of Trump's 304 - 227 landslide win? Numbers don't lie, kemmer, deal with it.

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Nov 10, 2019 11:58:33   #
eden
 
CarryOn wrote:
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the campaign knowing what the rules are (e*******l college), and they go into it (supposedly) accepting the outcome according to the rules. If you lose by those rules that you accepted, then you LOSE. PERIOD. And the other guy WINS, by the rules. So you can claim that all you want, but the fact is, T***P W*N, and, what I especially like to point out, HILLARY LOST!!!

If the rules were different, then the campaigns would have been run in a different way.

If you can't accept that, then you're just one more whiny-ass liberal blaming anything or anyone else for YOUR LOSS. Go write a book or something, kemmie. Maybe it will make you feel better.
Not by the rules ….. Everybody goes into the camp... (show quote)


You are correct on the technicality but if the result was flipped and Hillary won the e******n
Via the e*******l college but Trump got 3M more popular v**es the right would go quietly into the night right???? Wouldn't bother to mention it...right?????

Ok now imagine if the Dem candidate wins the presidency via the e*******l college in 2020 but Trump gets 3M more popular v**es the Trumpkins will graciously concede ....right??? 😊

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Nov 10, 2019 12:04:06   #
CarryOn
 
eden wrote:
You are correct on the technicality but if the result was flipped and Hillary won the e******n
Via the e*******l college but Trump got 3M more popular v**es the right would go quietly into the night right???? Wouldn't bother to mention it...right?????

Ok now imagine if the Dem candidate wins the presidency via the e*******l college in 2020 but Trump gets 3M more popular v**es the Trumpkins will graciously concede ....right??? 😊


Absolutely …. but Trump will win again .. by the rules … in 2020 … so your prediction is a moot point.

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Nov 10, 2019 12:05:08   #
kemmer
 
EmilyD wrote:
So now you change the subject that YOU brought up because you don't like being reminded of Trump's 304 - 227 landslide win? Numbers don't lie, kemmer, deal with it.

Be that as it may, Trump still hasn’t gotten over 2016. Because of Russian interference in his favor, he’s still afraid that his e******n was illegitimate.

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Nov 10, 2019 12:09:00   #
AHO-C
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump lost the elction by 3,000,000 v**es.


Kemmer, If you look at the v**es area by area.... the entire differential that Hillary had over Trump was approximately equal to the plurality she had in the LA and NYC metro areas !!! The E******n process and the E*******l College worked exactly as it was supposed to by preventing Large Metro Areas from ruling the Country !!! Hence 'OUR REPUBLIC' worked as it was supposed to and the phrase 'our democracy' is just another C*******T LIE to fool those who have neither the knowledge nor the historical perspective to be a citizen of this great Country , at best they are faux citizens that should strive to educate themselves properly so they do not embarrass themselves during basic civics and Constitutional discussions .



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Nov 10, 2019 12:09:57   #
kemmer
 
CarryOn wrote:
Absolutely …. but Trump will win again .. by the rules … in 2020 … so your prediction is a moot point.

This is Trump’s first and last term. Get ready for it.

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Nov 10, 2019 12:10:26   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
Be that as it may, Trump still hasn’t gotten over 2016. Because of Russian interference in his favor, he’s still afraid that his e******n was illegitimate.

Trump is not afraid of anything. And the Russian h**x was debunked by Mueller and his merry band of Democrats after 2+ years of investigating, 500 witnesses testifying and $30 million taxpayer dollars. You've got to get over the FACT that Hillary lost and get used to five more years of Trump.

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