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Nov 11, 2019 11:17:05   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you still h*****g on that lie?

Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine

In 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea and began arming separatists in eastern Ukraine with tanks, armored vehicles and rocket launchers, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko came to Washington to plead for weapons to defend his country. In an impassioned address to a joint session of Congress — with Biden sitting directly behind him — Poroshenko said his country appreciated the nonlethal assistance he was getting, but declared “one cannot win a war with blankets.”

The Obama-Biden administration was unmoved. The Wall Street Journal reported at the time that “President Barack Obama stuck to his refusal to provide weapons or other lethal military gear to Ukraine.” Why?

Team Obama feared that lethal aid would provoke Moscow.

So what did the administration give him? Instead of rocket-propelled grenades, we provided food rations. As one frustrated former Pentagon official put it at the time, “What kind of message does that send anyway?”

Answer: a message of weakness.

When Trump took office, he delivered a message of strength. In December 2017, the new administration announced that the United States would send the lethal aid to Ukraine that Poroshenko requested and Obama and Biden refused — the sale of $47 million worth of Javelin antitank missiles.

In May 2018, after Ukraine tested its new Javelin missiles, Poroshenko exulted on Twitter “Finally this day has come!” and personally thanked Trump “for supporting Ukraine and adopting a decision to provide Javelin antitank missile systems.”

For Biden to now attack Trump for a temporary delay in a new round of lethal military aid reeks of hypocrisy. It was on Biden’s watch that the United States refused to deliver military aid at all. Yet the same vice president who sat there impassively while Ukraine’s president begged for weapons now dares to cite the Russian threat to Ukraine in castigating Trump?

Talk about chutzpah.

And since Biden raised the Russian threat, let’s recall that the Obama-Biden administration bears much responsibility for the ­annexation of Crimea that necessitated the delivery of lethal aid to Ukraine in the first place. Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine came in the aftermath of the Obama-Biden administration’s failure to enforce its red line against Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons by Syria.

In March 2013, Biden declared, “Because we recognize the great danger Assad’s chemical and biological arsenals pose to Israel and the United States, to the whole world, we’ve set a clear red line against the use or the t***sfer of those weapons.”

Assad responded by using chemical weapons on innocent civilians not once, but 16 times. And yet Team Obama did nothing, failing to carry out even “unbelievably small” military strikes — a decision Biden publicly defended. “We can easily say we should have bombed and gone in and taken out their air defense system,” Biden said. “Well, you know, big nations can’t bluff.”

Bluff is what Obama and Biden did — and Assad called their bluff. Not only that, they turned to Russia for a face-saving way out, letting Russian President Vladimir Putin broker a phony deal to have Syria disarm. It was one of the most embarrassing foreign-policy debacles of the post-Cold War era.

So it should come as no surprise that, when Team Obama threatened to impose costs on Putin if he invaded Ukraine, the Kremlin called his bluff. Putin knew Biden and his boss didn’t have the will to stand up to him in Ukraine. And he was proved right when they refused to give Ukraine lethal aid for fear of further provoking him.

None of this excuses Trump’s delaying a new round of lethal military aid to Ukraine. But if this military assistance was as vital to countering the Russian threat as Biden says, then it’s fair to ask: Why didn’t the United States provide it when Biden was the Obama administration’s point man on Ukraine?
Are you still h*****g on that lie? br br b Sorr... (show quote)

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Nov 11, 2019 11:18:24   #
EmilyD
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Since duly elected in 2016, the president has hurdled this charade of trials of impeachment thru various mockeries and vicious attempts to removing him at all cost, all paid for by, the taxpayers.

This is the president who has endured the most vicious and series of harassment for over 3 years of trials.

From the Special council Muller, and the rest of the members during the investigation, they all have one mission, to find him guilty, to justify his impeachment. Not one shred of evidence was credible, but all framed and fabricated h**xes.

I hope the DOJ, Horowitz and Durham, investigation come out sooner to see who are the real criminals but members of the Obama administration.

The radical DEMS socialist-democrats have all crimes committed but left untouched and abuses of justice continue. I hope and pray the results of the investigation will finally provide the facts when the proven crimes under the Obama administration are brought to light.

The purpose of Schitt investigation on president Trump is to ruin his reputation among the e*****rates and therefore loses the e******n.

They have taken over the power, and run the Marxist dictatorial style of one system of governance. The final stage under Schitt will certainly be rejected by the Senate.
===================== br i Since duly elected in ... (show quote)



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Nov 11, 2019 11:19:32   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Hadenough wrote:
Trolldy,

And you and your ilk are selling fertilizer.
It was your boys obummer and holder selling weapons, how soon you forgot about “fast and furious”. How many people have those weapons k**led? We know of one for sure.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump



👍👍👍👍

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Nov 11, 2019 11:20:09   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Hadenough wrote:
Trolldy,

So that’s how you justify it? Hypocrite!
You poor little mislead h**eful person.
Don’t forget to thank a Vet tomorrow for your freedom of speech.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump



Amen!

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Nov 11, 2019 11:20:38   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Radiance3 wrote:
=====================
Since duly elected in 2016, the president has hurdled this charade of trials of impeachment thru various mockeries and vicious attempts to removing him at all cost, all paid for by, the taxpayers.

This is the president who has endured the most vicious and series of harassment for over 3 years of trials.

From the Special council Muller, and the rest of the members during the investigation, they all have one mission, to find him guilty, to justify his impeachment. Not one shred of evidence was credible, but all framed and fabricated h**xes.

I hope the DOJ, Horowitz and Durham, investigation come out sooner to see who are the real criminals but members of the Obama administration.

The radical DEMS socialist-democrats have all crimes committed but left untouched and abuses of justice continue. I hope and pray the results of the investigation will finally provide the facts when the proven crimes under the Obama administration are brought to light.

The purpose of Schitt investigation on president Trump is to ruin his reputation among the e*****rates and therefore loses the e******n.

They have taken over the power, and run the Marxist dictatorial style of one system of governance. The final stage under Schitt will certainly be rejected by the Senate.
===================== br i Since duly elected in ... (show quote)



Yep!

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Nov 11, 2019 11:25:28   #
debeda
 
[quote=jSmitty45][quote=woodguru]Nah, it's more fun torturing Trump and watch him wiggle in his guilt, he's toast and he'll be lucky not to be charged with treason for blocking military aid to the Ukraine in a way that benefitted Putin. Put any single conversation where Putin discussed not providing military aid to the Ukraine in view...and heaven help him, because he'll need it.[/quote

That is an outright lie,[/quote]

Yes, it is a big fat LIE!!

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Nov 11, 2019 16:57:17   #
elledee
 
big 10-4!!!

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Nov 12, 2019 13:45:13   #
P Lightfoot Loc: DEPLOYED ON STATION
 
Kemmer I******s can’t v**e in USA
TRUMP. 2020

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Nov 12, 2019 15:43:38   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
P Lightfoot wrote:
Kemmer I******s can’t v**e in USA
TRUMP. 2020


They can't do so legally but that has never stopped the progressives. After all, dead people v**e in Chicago and SanFrancisco, so it would be of no surprise if "papers" were made up for i******s to v**e in Democrat states or areas.

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Nov 12, 2019 23:49:40   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
4430 wrote:
I see you have a reading comprehension problem !


no propaganda please wrote:
What! Are you or your cohorts planning to have him murdered before the e******n? I wouldn
t put it past the progressives to attempt that approach.


If given a chance ole Lonewolf would pull the trigger !


4430 you are such a patient soul to those of us with (seeing/reading/comprehension or just plain lost) Bless you

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Nov 13, 2019 13:01:15   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
bggamers wrote:
4430 you are such a patient soul to those of us with (seeing/reading/comprehension or just plain lost) Bless you
4430 you are such a patient soul to those of us wi... (show quote)


Well I do the best I can but sometimes it can be very trying !

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Nov 13, 2019 13:06:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
4430 wrote:
Well I do the best I can but sometimes it can be very trying !



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