Ranger7374 wrote:
"As of January 1996, primary authority and ability to fire Nuclear Missiles will no longer rest with US Submarine Commanders... Principal control will reside with the President of the United States"----Crimson Tide, Staring Gene Hackman and Denzel Washington, 1995.
In the movie Crimson Tide, the Commanding Officer played by Gene Hackman, and the Executive Officer played by Denzel Washington, had a disagreement of the firing of Nuclear Missiles. The plot involves a civil war that occured in Russia, where the rebels took over a Russian Nuclear facility. The Rebels threatened to fire their weapons on anyone who attacked them. The USS Alabama was sent to "watch" and make a preemptive strike should they attempt such an act of war.
The sub was at a certain depth, when the orders came to fire. Then a second message was sent to stand down, however the stand down message was interrupted by an attack on the Alabama. The Alabama, was blind and deaf, and didn't know what the second message was. The standing order was to fire. However, what was the second message?
Gene Hackman as Captain ordered the firing of the missiles. Denzel Washington disagreed. This led to the arrest of Gene Hackman which he called it a "mutiny". So which is it? Did Gene Hackman break the law, like he was accused? Did Denzel Washington commit mutiny and break the law? Both men abided by Naval regulations and there was a break down in the chain of command.
The Tribunal court, a military court at the end of the movie said this:
"This panel has convened in order to investigate the events subsequent to the setting of condition 1Sq for strategic missile launch...on board the USS Alabama on 1 November. Now, based on the testimony from personnel on board the Alabama and, in no small measure, to that of the senior officer, Captain Ramsey, I am prepared to make my recommendations to SUBPAC.- My primary concern here is the breakdown in the system. In this instance, the system failed because the two senior officers did not work to resolve their differences while preserving the chain of command. Now you may have been proven right, Mr. H****r but insofar as the letter of the law is concerned...you were both right. And you were also both wrong. This is the dilemma that will occupy this panel, this Navy and this country's armed forces as a whole long after you leave this room. Off the record, you've both created one hell of a mess: A mutiny aboard a United States nuclear submarine violation of nuclear launch protocol. For the record, it is the conclusion of this panel that your actions aboard the Alabama were consistent with the best traditions of the Navy and in the interests of the United States. As such, the recommendations of this panel will be to accept in a manner reflective of his long and dedicated service to his country Captain Ramsey's request for early retirement from active duty. And based, in no small part, on Captain Ramsey's recommendation that Lieutenant Commander H****r be given his next command at the earliest possible convenience. "
The result was, as of January 1996, primary authority and ability to fire nuclear missiles will no longer rest with the US submarine commanders.....Principal control will reside with the President of the United States.
So what we have here is the Captain(Commanding officer) and the Executive Officer disagreed on policy. Both viewpoints are right and both viewpoints are wrong. Therefore, puling the trigger, so to speak, whether it is launching Nuclear weapons or impeaching the president should not be used. In other words, impeaching Trump would have just about the same consequences as Gene Hackman launching the Nuclear weapons. There is one exchange between Hackman and Washington that I really like. Hackman turns to Washington and says, "God help us if you are wrong."; Denzel Washington responds, "If I am wrong, God help us all"
This is how I feel about my support of Donald Trump. If I am wrong and Donald Trump is guilty of the accusations against him, God Help Us ALL.
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It's about the fourth c**p attempt. I really can't think of anything wrong that he's done, I can think of a lot those who want to impeach him have. If he's impeached I'd give it two weeks before some war breaks out. And who will fight it? Everyone I know of the right age will say or do a prepper thing and homestead somewhere, actually, most already are. That's if we don't revolt which I see as the very next step if Trump is removed from office. I'll attach Clint Eastwood's words.