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Trump mocked a gold star family, defamed McCain for "being caught," and disparaged generals--now he wants to intervene for 3 war criminals
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Nov 7, 2019 19:19:01   #
rumitoid
 
EmilyD wrote:
McCain WAS caught...many times. He was a party-going hot rod pilot that no one wanted to fly missions with. He got himself captured. He didn't even know how to eject himself from his plane. He's very lucky that the Vietnamese rescued him from the water after he ignored his commanding officer and lost his plane!

This story is suppressed by the MSM, but it tells the whole story about McCain that they don't want us to know. This author is ZALIN GRANT who volunteered for Vietnam and served as an army officer. A former journalist for Time and The New Republic, he is the author of four books on the war including OVER THE BEACH: The Air War in Vietnam and SURVIVORS: Vietnam POWs Tell Their Stories.

If you don't like it, then tough.... it is the t***h.

McCain's crew were afraid of flying with him because he was such a jerk.

http://www.pythiapress.com/wartales/McCain-Shootdown.htm
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I know about McCain, heard it on MSM. But he suffered greatly in the Hanoi Hilton. And he did not avoid service for his country with five deferments and bone spurs. At that period of our history, what Trump did was considered cowardly, anti American. Any Conservative in the nation would have spit on him. You had to be there.

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Nov 7, 2019 19:20:27   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Have you not compared president Trump with Hitler? If you haven't, plenty of your Komeraden have never failed to do so - repeatedly.


Pretty accurate, if you could open your eyes to the threat of his autocratic rule.

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Nov 7, 2019 19:23:40   #
rumitoid
 
JW wrote:
[rumitoid]Trump mocked a gold star family, defamed McCain for "being caught," and disparaged generals--now he wants to intervene for 3 war criminals

Trump did not MOCK the family. He responded to a partisan attack from a man who apparently thought he was something special because a real man he happened to have fathered died.

Trump did not defame McCain. He did express disdain of him as would anyone familiar with McCain's history. Do you think anyone other than an admiral's son could have wrecked three military aircraft and still retained his commission. That is just the start but it includes his making propaganda radio broadcasts for the enemy and abandoning any POW/MIAs that might have still been held after the war.

Trump did not disparage any Generals. He gave a blunt assessment of his feelings about the quality of their service. Seems to me that is no different that what you do to Trump. It's OK for you but not for a President?

As for war crimes, charge the people who start the wars and risk nothing, not the people who do their bidding and lay their own lives on the line in the process.
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Wow. Stunning! The blindness or the purposeful obfuscation defies all reason. Point: Trump never called McCain on his career of flying but because McCain got caught. Jan. 11, 2000: Trump, considering a run for president, criticized McCain's war service as he sized up other potential candidates in an interview on CBS. “He was captured,” Trump said, in remarks he would echo years later. “Does being captured make you a hero? I don’t know. I’m not sure.” Nothing, absolutely nothing, but grasping at straws to deflect the sick behavior of the president vicious feuds.

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Nov 7, 2019 20:14:19   #
PeterS
 
So if Trump doesn't murder 80 million people he's not following the same ideology? F*****m is a right-wing ideology that few if any on the right will acknowledge as one of their ideological traits. I don't expect Trump will ever be able to murder 80 million people but the way our constitution is structured it won't give him the opportunity to find out. That attests to the wisdom of those who came before him, not to Trump or the current state of the Republican party--which would gladly make excuses if Trump were to k**l 80 million people today...

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Nov 7, 2019 20:27:39   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
So if Trump doesn't murder 80 million people he's not following the same ideology? F*****m is a right-wing ideology that few if any on the right will acknowledge as one of their ideological traits. I don't expect Trump will ever be able to murder 80 million people but the way our constitution is structured it won't give him the opportunity to find out. That attests to the wisdom of those who came before him, not to Trump or the current state of the Republican party--which would gladly make excuses if Trump were to k**l 80 million people today...
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For the last time, F*****M is a LEFTWING ideology. It is an offshoot of socialism. If you bothered with the details, what f*****ts said themselves, you might begin to get the picture.

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Nov 7, 2019 20:32:41   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
Wow. Stunning! The blindness or the purposeful obfuscation defies all reason. Point: Trump never called McCain on his career of flying but because McCain got caught. Jan. 11, 2000: Trump, considering a run for president, criticized McCain's war service as he sized up other potential candidates in an interview on CBS. “He was captured,” Trump said, in remarks he would echo years later. “Does being captured make you a hero? I don’t know. I’m not sure.” Nothing, absolutely nothing, but grasping at straws to deflect the sick behavior of the president vicious feuds.
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On that interview, the host declared McCain a hero. Trump said he needed more than to be captured to qualify as a hero.

No matter how Trump avoided military service, it isn't 1/100th of the cowardice of making anti-American propaganda for the enemy. You want to honor scum like that, consider him all yours!

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Nov 7, 2019 20:36:40   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
Pretty accurate, if you could open your eyes to the threat of his autocratic rule.


Where the Hell were you during Obama's reign? No President we've had but Obama ever said straight out, if Congress wouldn't act, he would; talk about autocratic, and not a peep from you.

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Nov 7, 2019 21:26:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
So if Trump doesn't murder 80 million people he's not following the same ideology? F*****m is a right-wing ideology that few if any on the right will acknowledge as one of their ideological traits. I don't expect Trump will ever be able to murder 80 million people but the way our constitution is structured it won't give him the opportunity to find out. That attests to the wisdom of those who came before him, not to Trump or the current state of the Republican party--which would gladly make excuses if Trump were to k**l 80 million people today...
So if Trump doesn't murder 80 million people he's ... (show quote)


Assuming this is in response to my meme...

Neither Trump nor conservatives are f*****ts Peter ... Could you draw a single comparison between the f*****t ideology and today's Republicans that doesn't rely on hyperbole?

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Nov 7, 2019 21:27:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
For the last time, F*****M is a LEFTWING ideology. It is an offshoot of socialism. If you bothered with the details, what f*****ts said themselves, you might begin to get the picture.


Not sure about that...

But both f*****m and socialism do begin to converge at the extremes...

Seems to be more of a circle than a spectrum..

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Nov 8, 2019 01:14:53   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Not sure about that...

But both f*****m and socialism do begin to converge at the extremes...

Seems to be more of a circle than a spectrum..


Both Hitler and Mussolini have socialist pasts. Both openly expressed hatred for capitalism and capitalistic systems. Franco doesn't count because he was a great disappointment to the f*****ts for refusing to be identified with f*****m.

The information is available. Just be willing to consider the implications of the things you will find that contradict what you believe if you really think f*****m is Rightwing.

The fact that Left and right both love power doesn't mean they share any political philosophies. Power is the goal, politics can be the tool to the goal but so can any other effective means of attaining power.

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Nov 8, 2019 02:42:22   #
EmilyD
 
rumitoid wrote:
I know about McCain, heard it on MSM. But he suffered greatly in the Hanoi Hilton. And he did not avoid service for his country with five deferments and bone spurs. At that period of our history, what Trump did was considered cowardly, anti American. Any Conservative in the nation would have spit on him. You had to be there.

Look up bone spurs, pal. It's not pretty. MSM makes it seem like it's just a scratchy thing....it's not.

Bone spurs are bony projections that develop along bone edges. Bone spurs (osteophytes) often form where bones meet each other — in your joints. They can also form on the bones of your spine. The main cause of bone spurs is the joint damage associated with osteoarthritis. It is a painful jarring of bones rubbing against each other as a patient moves.

Would you want someone with this disorder fighting for your life in Afghanistan?

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Nov 8, 2019 03:41:51   #
EmilyD
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Assuming this is in response to my meme...

Neither Trump nor conservatives are f*****ts Peter ... Could you draw a single comparison between the f*****t ideology and today's Republicans that doesn't rely on hyperbole?


doubt it.

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