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Has the World forgotten who brought down the Soviet Union and the Wall?
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Nov 7, 2019 20:32:44   #
Hug
 
Seth wrote:
The teachers' unions, for one, pour money into local Democrat campaigns and as a result, a lot of ineffective teachers in Democrat run cities have their jobs and tenure protected.

The Department of Education, a federal and historically (since its inception under Jimmy Carter) Democrat dominated bureaucracy, sets guidelines with the authority to determine which cities and therefore school districts receive how much federal funding.

You can't seriously believe that any Republican/conservative would allow him/herself to be instrumental in replacing traditional American History curriculum with the identity politics based indoctrination, now "standard" of Howard Zinn.

In fact, our entire education system, from K through college, is geared more toward left wing indoctrination than actual education. This is not even remotely bipartisan, it is pure Democrat agenda.

A "well rounded" education these days doesn't produce much in the way of the "three R's" and critical thinking as it did when I went to school in the 1960s and early 1970s, but it sure produces a lot of well indoctrinated left thinkers.

Want more evidence? Do some research on what happens, more often than not, when any noted conservative arrives at a university as an invited speaker, vs when a Democrat does.

A population that is weak in critical thinking is the left's best friend, because it is more susceptible to propaganda.

Unfortunately, a bi-product of the current education system is America's low ranking among developed, and even undeveloped countries in quality of education, which is why so many medical, engineering and other breakthroughs are generally credited to people educated in India, China or other foreign countries.
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I personally know that it was common for schools to place as many students as possible in special needs programs because the government gave the school more money for special needs students.

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Nov 7, 2019 21:37:36   #
Seth
 
Hug wrote:
I personally know that it was common for schools to place as many students as possible in special needs programs because the government gave the school more money for special needs students.


And likely a lot more than the school system actually needed to educate those students.

I know that in N.Y., every time there is a scandal involving some NYC Dept. of Education bureaucrat or other, it comes out that he or she is being paid an outrageous six digit salary beginning with a 2 or 3.

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Nov 8, 2019 08:43:26   #
Hug
 
Seth wrote:
And likely a lot more than the school system actually needed to educate those students.

I know that in N.Y., every time there is a scandal involving some NYC Dept. of Education bureaucrat or other, it comes out that he or she is being paid an outrageous six digit salary beginning with a 2 or 3.


I believe the Department of Education is a giant bureaucracy that is very corrupt and needs to be disbanded. I do not know why President Trump puts up with it. Maybe the lady in charge is making progress, who knows?

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Nov 8, 2019 11:49:10   #
Seth
 
Hug wrote:
I believe the Department of Education is a giant bureaucracy that is very corrupt and needs to be disbanded. I do not know why President Trump puts up with it. Maybe the lady in charge is making progress, who knows?


Education in America was doing just fine before Carter literally made a "federal case" out of it. The left was milking it for all they could before Betsy DeVos was appointed, then realizing the party was almost over, they became really uppity.

I agree, though, that it should be disbanded and education oversight returned to the states.

Since education was not enumerated as a federal government issue in Article 1 of the Constitution, the Dept. of Education is easily construable as a violation of the Tenth Amendment.

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Nov 9, 2019 22:19:48   #
GmanTerry
 
Hug wrote:
I would guess that at least half, or more, of Americans living today have no idea what the Soviet Union was about and never heard of the wall. That could make one want to cry because the lack of knowledge is part of our problem today.


So true. You can't learn from history if it isn't taught to you or if you attempt to remove history. We study it to LEARN from it. I was in the military when President Kennedy faced down the Russians c*******ts over missiles in Cuba. I believe that in my lifetime, that is the closest I have seen of the destruction of the world.

Semper Fi

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Nov 10, 2019 14:15:40   #
Carol Kelly
 
Hug wrote:
I would guess that at least half, or more, of Americans living today have no idea what the Soviet Union was about and never heard of the wall. That could make one want to cry because the lack of knowledge is part of our problem today.


It’s a matter of failed public education. Our taxes are paying for our children to come out of high school dumbed down.

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Nov 10, 2019 15:05:46   #
Seth
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
It’s a matter of failed public education. Our taxes are paying for our children to come out of high school dumbed down.


...And indoctinated from A to Z(inn).

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Nov 10, 2019 16:42:58   #
Hug
 
The v**ers in the various school districts should pay more attention to what the schools are teaching.

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Nov 13, 2019 16:04:58   #
Carol Kelly
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
Yeah, just like getting out of the Mafia. Getting out of the US is like that too. Just ask some of those southern states that tried that back in the 1860's.


I almost missed this and you are so right.

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Nov 13, 2019 16:23:27   #
Carol Kelly
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
How do Democrats run the "educational system?" The Constitution gives the Federal government no authority over education. Education is one of those things in the 9th and 10th amendments that are left to the states and the people. Back in the early 1960's, when there was fear that the Russians were beating us in space, the Republican Eisenhower administration got the National Defense Education Act (NDEA) passed. Defense is something the Feds do have authority over. The Feds would pay half of science equipment for schools. It seemed like a good idea at the time but with all that Federal money, the suppliers just jacked up the prices of everything so that now you can't run a school system with local taxes anymore. They don't even try to make education bills sound Constitutional anymore by putting "defense" in the title, and both Republicans and Democrats have come up with atrocities like "no Child Left Behind" etc.
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And yet ourFederal taxes support public schools.

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Nov 13, 2019 16:25:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Gatsby wrote:
I have not forgotten!

Have You?


And supported by Putin, who stood guard on the Russian embassy protecting it from r**ting crowds.

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Nov 13, 2019 17:08:03   #
Hug
 
We should try harder to get rid of the Department of Education. It was conjured up by Jimmy Carter.

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Nov 13, 2019 17:14:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Hug wrote:
We should try harder to get rid of the Department of Education. It was conjured up by Jimmy Carter.


Nuff said! Let's do it!

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Nov 14, 2019 03:34:18   #
Seth
 
Hug wrote:
The v**ers in the various school districts should pay more attention to what the schools are teaching.


It's the very fact that the left has been gaining traction in this and other areas that makes me wonder if we've become a nation of sheep -- where are those parents and others on e******n days, and throughout the rest of the year when their children come home scholars of identity politics and little else? Aren't they paying attention?

Here in southern California, I see these "progressive" millenials who, when their single digits aged children are acting a bit too obnoxious, pleading with them, rather than telling them, to desist.

It all makes me wonder if I'm missing, or have missed something.

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Nov 14, 2019 07:27:04   #
Hug
 
Seth wrote:
It's the very fact that the left has been gaining traction in this and other areas that makes me wonder if we've become a nation of sheep -- where are those parents and others on e******n days, and throughout the rest of the year when their children come home scholars of identity politics and little else? Aren't they paying attention?

Here in southern California, I see these "progressive" millenials who, when their single digits aged children are acting a bit too obnoxious, pleading with them, rather than telling them, to desist.

It all makes me wonder if I'm missing, or have missed something.
It's the very fact that the left has been gaining ... (show quote)


God is being taken out of our society, so our society has degenerated to the point where we are worshiping idols and sacrificing children. Our schools are reflecting that culture.

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