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Oct 26, 2019 03:46:16   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Lonewolf wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/republicans-are-running-out-ways-defend-trump-n1071206


Liberal Hobbit fart sniffers are running out of things to accuse him of.

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Oct 26, 2019 09:01:48   #
zillaorange
 
padremike wrote:
My limited understanding of the Patriot Act, as the Congress passed it, was that it was not written to spy on American citizens and unquestionably not to take down a President.

The official title of the USA PATRIOT Act is "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism." I had to Google this information because I sure didn't know; never had even heard the full name. If it severely violates our Constitution my question is why it hasn't been brought before SCOTUS?
My limited understanding of the Patriot Act, as th... (show quote)


Good question ! Don't believe it ever will !!! " The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" Tacitus

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Oct 26, 2019 09:08:03   #
zillaorange
 
Lonewolf wrote:
It was dick and bush who lied to congress to get us in Iraq in the first place then two k**led more Americans than all the terrorists combined! You might think theses were good men I certainly don't!


It was illegal FISA warrants that got the ball rolling on the phony Russiagate ! Why won't you people understand that this whole thing is based on a LIE, The Steele dossier !!! Except for the PATHOLOGICAL HATRED of Trump is all the left has to keep this gob s**te going !!!

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Oct 26, 2019 09:10:45   #
zillaorange
 
no propaganda please wrote:
What Trump and conservatives should be defended against are the lies and evil claims of the "progressives"



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Oct 26, 2019 10:49:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
You do realize this whole brew ha ha is based on the Steele dossier ? The so called dossier has been proven to be FALSE, and paid for by DNC ? You've fallen into the media hype trap. Repeat a lie over & over & over & over, & those with limited intelligence fall for it ! The muler report dismisses the charge of Russian collusion. Muler himself wasn't able to find any REAL charges against Trump !!! No reason for ANY prosecution ! This WHOLE thing is based on A LIE !!! The socialist/dems have spent 3 years & millions of dollars, tax payer money, chasing shadows in the dark ! You people don't have the brains to see this for what it is. A political c**p de ta ! Undoubtedly initiated by obummer & hitlery. Their actions are TREASON & they should be tried for this crime against the Constitution & America !!! New material is coming out to prosecute them & will ultimate lead to prison for THEIR CRIMES !!! Too bad firing squads have been banned, these 2 deserve just that !!!!!!
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The way the media is driving the anti-Trump narrative is just beyond words in a free country like the USA!!

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Oct 26, 2019 10:51:03   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
It was illegal FISA warrants that got the ball rolling on the phony Russiagate ! Why won't you people understand that this whole thing is based on a LIE, The Steele dossier !!! Except for the PATHOLOGICAL HATRED of Trump is all the left has to keep this gob s**te going !!!


They soon will know it all. This didn't become a criminal investigation based upon nothing or false information. They have found part of what the Democrats have been hoping to hide and that is what is driving the "need" to impeach. And the best part is that this goes all the way up to Obama.

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Oct 26, 2019 11:18:04   #
zillaorange
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
They soon will know it all. This didn't become a criminal investigation based upon nothing or false information. They have found part of what the Democrats have been hoping to hide and that is what is driving the "need" to impeach. And the best part is that this goes all the way up to Obama.


Hopefully we have some new people not under the thumb of the obummer, hitlery cartel !

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Oct 26, 2019 11:59:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
no propaganda please wrote:
What Trump and conservatives should be defended against are the lies and evil claims of the "progressives"


Criminal investigation of Russia probe has top Dems in a frenzy
https://youtu.be/warBS_22eQY

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Oct 26, 2019 23:49:08   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
padremike wrote:
My limited understanding of the Patriot Act, as the Congress passed it, was that it was not written to spy on American citizens and unquestionably not to take down a President.

The official title of the USA PATRIOT Act is "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism." I had to Google this information because I sure didn't know; never had even heard the full name. If it severely violates our Constitution my question is why it hasn't been brought before SCOTUS?
My limited understanding of the Patriot Act, as th... (show quote)


It came up for renewal, the contested unconstitutionality of section 315 (?) which was eliminated by letting the clock run out, Senator Rand Paul filibustered it to death. Consequently, the USA FREEDOM Act was passed to replace it which is supposed to be constitutional. This all went down under Obama on June 1st 2015.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_v**e_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&v**e=00201
United States Senate Bills, Acts,& Laws
Roll Call V**e 114th Congress 1st Session
Question: On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 2048 )
V**e Number: 201
V**e Date: June 2, 2015, 04:06 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2
V**e Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 2048 (USA FREEDOM Act of 2015 )

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Oct 26, 2019 23:58:33   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Tug484 wrote:
I've thought so for years.
It's not exactly what it is supposed to be.


Having read up a bit on WWII and the Cold War necessitating a Centralized Intelligence outfit to collate the information arising out of public record, State Department, Treasury, Army, Navy, Air Force, Commerce, and a slew of other lesser known operations, it seemed at first, a good idea.

But what does one do when the DCI happens to be a c*******t mole with little or no congressional oversight? Now we have 17 layers of Intelligence agencies and it is so penetrated by moles in the Deep State, not to mention Hillary's blackberries, Aldrich Ames, Anthony Snowden, Bradley Manning, John Brennan, that the nation is an open book.

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Oct 27, 2019 02:29:03   #
Tug484
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Having read up a bit on WWII and the Cold War necessitating a Centralized Intelligence outfit to collate the information arising out of public record, State Department, Treasury, Army, Navy, Air Force, Commerce, and a slew of other lesser known operations, it seemed at first, a good idea.

But what does one do when the DCI happens to be a c*******t mole with little or no congressional oversight? Now we have 17 layers of Intelligence agencies and it is so penetrated by moles in the Deep State, not to mention Hillary's blackberries, Aldrich Ames, Anthony Snowden, Bradley Manning, John Brennan, that the nation is an open book.
Having read up a bit on WWII and the Cold War nece... (show quote)

At first, but they've changed.
Disband and reorganize into something else.

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