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Oct 25, 2019 10:46:58   #
Lonewolf
 
zillaorange wrote:
You do realize this whole brew ha ha is based on the Steele dossier ? The so called dossier has been proven to be FALSE, and paid for by DNC ? You've fallen into the media hype trap. Repeat a lie over & over & over & over, & those with limited intelligence fall for it ! The muler report dismisses the charge of Russian collusion. Muler himself wasn't able to find any REAL charges against Trump !!! No reason for ANY prosecution ! This WHOLE thing is based on A LIE !!! The socialist/dems have spent 3 years & millions of dollars, tax payer money, chasing shadows in the dark ! You people don't have the brains to see this for what it is. A political c**p de ta ! Undoubtedly initiated by obummer & hitlery. Their actions are TREASON & they should be tried for this crime against the Constitution & America !!! New material is coming out to prosecute them & will ultimate lead to prison for THEIR CRIMES !!! Too bad firing squads have been banned, these 2 deserve just that !!!!!!
You do realize this whole brew ha ha is based on t... (show quote)


You spent 3 years and 25 million investigating Hillary and found nothing!!

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Oct 25, 2019 10:50:46   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Dick Cheney in his book bragged about being a war criminal it wasn't about waterboarding was Bob flying people out in the wilderness of places like Poland where they had holes drilled in their knees jumper cables applied to the g*****ls I'm going to guess none of them ever got out of that alive they wouldn't dare released him after doing those horrible things
Then there's the little matter of the Geneva Convention something we used to take p***e in I can remember a class and boot camp on it and while that made us better than the bad guys. Experts have said they've gained absolutely no useful knowledge out of that interrogation.
Dick Cheney in his book bragged about being a war ... (show quote)


Were Islamic terrorist signatories to the Geneva Convention? No! Yet you want to extend to them protection they refuse to give to anyone else. This is L*****t logic - k**l 62 million unborn babies as a woman's right and shed tears for tortured Islamic terrorists because "we're better than than they are.". Really?

I can't imagine Dick Cheney admitting to being a war criminal except as snide, half humorous, response given to some foreign court who, with the assistance of L*****ts, charged and convicted in him absentia. At one time he was my congressman. Also a good man that L*****ts, plying their standard evil tactics, sought to destroy.

Other, non L*****ts experts, say they gained valuable information thru waterboarding. Depending on the severity of the torture everyone, with few exceptions, either breaks or dies.

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Oct 25, 2019 10:53:30   #
Lonewolf
 
padremike wrote:
Were Islamic terrorist signatories to the Geneva Convention? No! Yet you want to extend to them protection they refuse to give to anyone else. This is L*****t logic - k**l 62 million unborn babies as a woman's right and shed tears for tortured Islamic terrorists because "we're better than than they are.". Really?

I can't imagine Dick Cheney admitting to being a war criminal except as snide, half humorous, response given to some foreign court who, with the assistance of L*****ts, charged and convicted in him absentia. At one time he was my congressman. Also a good man that L*****ts, plying their standard evil tactics, sought to destroy.

Other, non L*****ts experts, say they gained valuable information thru waterboarding. Depending on the severity of the torture everyone, with few exceptions, either breaks or dies.
Were Islamic terrorist signatories to the Geneva C... (show quote)

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Oct 25, 2019 10:56:56   #
Lonewolf
 
padremike wrote:
Were Islamic terrorist signatories to the Geneva Convention? No! Yet you want to extend to them protection they refuse to give to anyone else. This is L*****t logic - k**l 62 million unborn babies as a woman's right and shed tears for tortured Islamic terrorists because "we're better than than they are.". Really?

I can't imagine Dick Cheney admitting to being a war criminal except as snide, half humorous, response given to some foreign court who, with the assistance of L*****ts, charged and convicted in him absentia. At one time he was my congressman. Also a good man that L*****ts, plying their standard evil tactics, sought to destroy.

Other, non L*****ts experts, say they gained valuable information thru waterboarding. Depending on the severity of the torture everyone, with few exceptions, either breaks or dies.
Were Islamic terrorist signatories to the Geneva C... (show quote)


It was dick and bush who lied to congress to get us in Iraq in the first place then two k**led more Americans than all the terrorists combined! You might think theses were good men I certainly don't!

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Oct 25, 2019 11:28:13   #
zillaorange
 
Lonewolf wrote:
You spent 3 years and 25 million investigating Hillary and found nothing!!


Her time will come ! Check the LIST of clinton associates who've committed suicide, then come cack & talk to me ! She doesn't have the brains to know when to SHUT UP ! Seems she'll have another run for pres. Then the spot lights will be trained on her !!!

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Oct 25, 2019 16:05:26   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
padremike wrote:
Did you ever think they might not be guilty? What You "think" may not always be the T***h. On the other hand, if we could have found one terrorist that knew the plans for 9/11 and we could have stopped it by torturing him would you have approved? You L*****t believed waterboarding was horrible. Do you know about the Japanese water torture used on Americans during WWII? Our version of waterboarding, comparatively, is pretty tame. American military have been waterboarded as part of our training. Would you approve torturing a terror to saved one of our troops life or is it better to take what you believe is a higher cause? And why in the world would progressives concern themselves over torturing terrorists yet advocate the k*****g of 62 million unborn children?
Did you ever think they might not be guilty? What... (show quote)


Bush was warned about 9/11, not exactly what it was by daddy's cia and he ignored it. And yeah the "Patriot Act." You kind of wonder whose welfare he was looking out for.

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Oct 25, 2019 16:40:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Bush was warned about 9/11, not exactly what it was by daddy's cia and he ignored it. And yeah the "Patriot Act." You kind of wonder whose welfare he was looking out for.


I'm more disappointed with Bush because he never uttered an unkind word about Obama while Obama was president because he believed it improper to do so. Yet he joins with Romney, McCain and others to criticize Trump. Our military genuinely loved Bush and he them. That's on his plus side. That same military didn't have much good to say about Obama.

I don't remember specifics on how Bush was warned about 9/11. I do recall that Clinton could have taken Osama out but chickened out.

The Patriot Act was/is a necessary tool in this age of Islamic terrorism but it became ripe for government abuse.

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Oct 25, 2019 17:11:15   #
zillaorange
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Bush was warned about 9/11, not exactly what it was by daddy's cia and he ignored it. And yeah the "Patriot Act." You kind of wonder whose welfare he was looking out for.


Somebody, finally, is thinking along the same lines. The patriot act violates the Constitution in too many ways !

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Oct 25, 2019 17:46:23   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
zillaorange wrote:
Somebody, finally, is thinking along the same lines. The patriot act violates the Constitution in too many ways !


My limited understanding of the Patriot Act, as the Congress passed it, was that it was not written to spy on American citizens and unquestionably not to take down a President.

The official title of the USA PATRIOT Act is "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism." I had to Google this information because I sure didn't know; never had even heard the full name. If it severely violates our Constitution my question is why it hasn't been brought before SCOTUS?

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Oct 25, 2019 18:30:49   #
Tug484
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It all comes out public in mid November. Then the fun begins.

But hey, how bout that Talyor guy and his Burisma connections?? LOLOL!


Taylor had forth hand information and they made it look like he heard the whole conversation.

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Oct 25, 2019 20:53:17   #
elledee
 
once again simple t***h escapes you, with all due respect dear hammer head.....the innocent need no defending

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Oct 25, 2019 21:38:40   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Lonewolf wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/republicans-are-running-out-ways-defend-trump-n1071206


Dear LoneLemming, you draw our attention to this NBC news site:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/republicans-are-running-out-ways-defend-trump-n1071206

"But since then, the transcription memo, released text messages, and subsequent witnesses in the impeachment inquiry have largely corroborated the whistleblower’s original complaint."

Here is the full transcript of the Zellensky/Trump phone call declassified by the President September 24, 2019

The Democrats are using this phony impeachment s**m against President Trump to rid themselves of their leading candidate, Quid-Pro-Quo-Joe Biden and his son, H****r on the take of bribes from both Ukraine ($50 K monthly) and China ($1.5 Billion lump sum).

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(C) Telephone Conversation with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine Pre·sident Zelenskyy of . Ukraine Notetakers: The White House Situation·Room July 25, 2019, 9:03 - 9:33 a.m. EDT Residence
(S/NF) The President: Congratulations on a great victory. We all watched from the United States and you did a terrific.job. The way.you came from behind, -somebody who wasn't given much of a chan�e, and you ended up winning ea�ily. It'� a fantastic achievement. Congratulations. (:J;'UP' President Zelenskyy: You· are absolutely right Mr. Presideht.• We did win big and we worked hard for _this. We worked a lot but I would like to confe$s to you that I had �n opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your sk**ls· and knowledge and were able to use .it as an example tor· our ele.ctions -and.yes it is-true that these were unique e******ns. We were in a·unique situation· that we· were able to CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the reco�d, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear. Classified By: 2354726 Derived.From: NSC SCG Declassify On: 20441231 -lJNCLASSIFIED
SECRf3Cf';','ORCOt VJ ,Of ORi, 2 UNC AS IFIED achieve a unique success. I'm able to tell you the following; the first time,\ you· called me to · congratulate .me .when I won my presid�ntial e******n, and the second time you are now calling me when my party won the parliamentary e******n. I think I should run more often so you can call me more often and we can talk over the phone more often. (�;'!��) The Pre�:ddent: [laughter] That's a very good idea. T · think your c·ount,ry is very happy about that. (S/iQl',. President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the t***h, we are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to have a new format and a new type of government .. You are a great teacher for us and in that. (3/H!i, The President: Well it1s·very nice of you .to say that. I will say that we do ·a lot for Ukraine. We spend a l.ot of effort and a lot.of time. Much more than the European countries are ·'doing and they should be helping.you more than.they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should ·really ask them about. When I.was· ·speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn't do· anything. A lot of the European countries are the. same way· so I think it's.something you want to look at but the United States has been very·very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very.good to Ukraine. (3/MF) President Zelenskyy: Yes you are·absolutely right. �ot .only 100%, but actually 1000% arid I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela �erkel and I did meet.with her. I also met and talked with.Macron and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing·on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as .they should work for Ukraine� It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest· partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than.the European Union and- I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a· lot for Ukraine. Much more than the E"�ropean Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russia,n Federation. r·· would also·li�e to thank you·for.your great support iri the area of defe.nse. We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we ar·e almost. ready to buy more Javelins from ·_ the United· States for defense purposes ..
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•t:�;'HP) The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole si�uation with Ukraine, they s_ay Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your weal thy people... The server, they say Ukraine has.it� There-are a lot. of things that went on, the· :whole situation .. I think you1 re _surrounding yourse·lf with some of the same people. I .would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you t� ·get to the bottom of it�. As you sa� yest�rday, that whole nonsetise ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mue�le_r, an incompetent performance-, _but they. say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Wh**ever you can do, ·it's very important that· you. do it if that's possible. (l!l-,'HP) President Zelenskyy: Yes it is. very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President,-· it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to· open a new page on �ooperation in . relations between the United· States and Ukraine.· For that· purpose, I just recalled our.ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who wtll work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting clciser. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and y9ur .confidence and _have persona·1 relations·with you so we c�n cooperate even �ore so. I· wili. personally tell you that one· of my assistants· spoke with Mr. Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. G1uliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and.we will meet once ·he co�es to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again_that you _have nobody but friends around-us. I w.ill make sure -that-I surro�nd myself with the best and most experienced people._ I also· wanted to·tell you that we are friends. We are great· friends and you Mr. President have. friends -in our country so we can continue our strategic·�artn�rship. I also plan to surround · myself with great people ·and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations.will be done_openly and candidly .. That I can assure you .. (:9/MF� The Pre·sident: Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor who· was very·good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. _·A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your �ery good prosecutor down and you had some �ery bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_ mayor bf New York Ci:ty, a great mayor, and I would like him to UN CLJ�s�]]F1fIE:1U> �l!Ctffl'fHO!tCOM;'HOPO!ttf
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4 call you. I will ask him to call yoti along with the Attorney·_ ··General.· :Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could _speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United $tates,· the woman., was bad news �nd th� people she was dealing with in.the Ukraine.were bad news so I jtist wan� to_let you know that� The ot�er thing, There's a lot 6f.talk about Biden's son,. that Eiden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so wh**ever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me. (S;'ti!F) President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell ·you about the prosecutor� First df �11 I understand arid I'm kn6wledgeable .abotit the situation. Sine� we ha�e �on· the ab�olute majority in our Parliament; the next prosecutor .general will be 100%_ my person, my c'andidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and will start. a_s a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look. into the situation, specifically to the company that you -mentioned in :this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is �ctually the issui of �aking sure to res�o�e the honesty so we will take care of.that and wi11·wo:tk on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide ·to µs, it would_ be very helpful · for the investigation t·o make· sur.e that we administer justice i':r1 our country with regc:ird: to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovicli. It was great that you were the first one. who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree·with you 100%. Her attitude to.wards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his· side. She would not accept �e as a new President· well enough. . . . . (3/MF) The President: Well, ·she' s going tO go through some things. I will.have Mr. Giuliani.give you a call and I _am. also going to have.Attorney General Barr call and we will get to· the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it o�t. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fa�r prosecuto_r so good luck with everything. Your. economy is going-· to get better and bett.er I pre .diet. You have a lot· of a,ssets. It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible ·people. (B/MF�- President Z�lenskyy: I would like to tell you that I also have.quite a few·Ukrain1an friends that live iri the United· States. ·Actually last time I traveled to the Unit'ed States, I stayed in New York n�ar Central Park and I stayed at the Trump_ UN�� ,J �����.m, �-----... --..�µ._;,.....;._.!...,_..:_ --��/ 51:!C:Rt! I II ORCON/MOPOlffl
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Tower. I will t ·alk to thetn and I hope to see t_hem· again in the future. I also wa·nted to _.thank you .for your invitation to visit the United States, specifically Washington DC. On ,the other hand, I also wartt td ensur� ·you that we will. be ��ry serious about.the case and will work on the investigation. As to.the economy, there is much potential for our two countries and o_ne of · the ·issues. that is ve:;ry important for Ukraine is· energy independence. I believe we can b� very succ�ssful. and cooperating on energy independence witp United States. We -are already working on cooperation. We are buying Americ�n oil but I am very hopeful for-·a future meeting. We will have more time and more opportunitie� to discuss these opportunities· and get to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your s-v.pport (8/Ui?� · The President: Good. Well,. thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to.· call. Thank you. Whenever you would like -to come to the White House,. feel ·fr�e to call. ·Give us a date and we'll work that. out. I ·1ook forward to seeing you. (:9/Nil?) · President ·zelens�yy: Thank ·you very much. I would be very happy to come and would be happy to meet with you per�onally and I . . . get to know. you better. ::r: am l.ooking forward to our meeting arid I .also would like ·-to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the city bf Kyiv which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful country Which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that on Septernber_l we will be in Poland and we can meet in Poland hopefully. After that,· it might be a very good idea for you to.travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably mucl� better than mine. (�/MF) 'The President: Okay,. ·we can work that ·out. I look forwar·a to seeing you in Washington and maybe in· Poland beca·use I think we are going to be there at that tlme . . {�/MF) · President · Zelenskyy: Thank you very much Mr. President. (El/HF� The President:· Congratulations on· a fantastic job you've done-. The whole world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much of an upset but congratulations. (B/HF' President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye ..



Case closed.

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Oct 25, 2019 22:07:19   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Anyone on OPP can subscribe to the 1600Daily on the https://www.whitehouse.gov/ website and get the news straight from the White House.

Keep in mind that President Obama was engaged in o*******wing many foreign e******ns and governments: Mycenae, Albania, Syria, Israel, Columbia, Guatemala, and sparking the civil war in the Ukraine aided by point-man VP Biden, by our CIA and George Soros funding Swedish neo-n**is, the Stephano Bandara Gang, the Russian Mafia, and socialist - c*******t activists in the press:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkoOGQnj_aE
Ukraine on Fire The Real Story Full Documentary by Oliver Stone Original English version

INTERPOL is chasing these thugs all over the planet, some now taking residence in Sanctuary City San Francisco, as we speak.

Perhaps Adam Schiff should FOIA INTERPOL for the list of American treasonists

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Oct 25, 2019 22:17:35   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Tug484 wrote:
Taylor had forth hand information and they made it look like he heard the whole conversation.


Who could have the authority to bug the President's personal phone conversations and inform CIA whistleblowers to shake down the White House?

We have a problem with the CIA. Is it obsolete?

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Oct 26, 2019 00:11:38   #
Tug484
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Who could have the authority to bug the President's personal phone conversations and inform CIA whistleblowers to shake down the White House?

We have a problem with the CIA. Is it obsolete?


I've thought so for years.
It's not exactly what it is supposed to be.

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