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Oct 22, 2019 10:32:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
FACT: We've never had a president disrespect the U.S. Constitution more than Donald Trump.

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Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.' But it's part of the US Constitution.



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Oct 22, 2019 10:45:07   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
FACT: We've never had a president disrespect the U.S. Constitution more than Donald Trump.

Tell Congress to impeach this criminal president here

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Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.' But it's part of the US Constitution.


FACT: you're wrong.

I understood that Trump said that the way the emolument clause was used against him was phony. My observation was that immediately upon suggesting his resort Progressives, like Barney Fife, pulled their single bullet out of their shirt pocket and started screaming "CITIZEN'S ARREST, CITIZEN'S ARREST."

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Oct 22, 2019 10:46:15   #
Kevyn
 
permafrost wrote:
FACT: We've never had a president disrespect the U.S. Constitution more than Donald Trump.

Tell Congress to impeach this criminal president here

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Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.' But it's part of the US Constitution.



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Oct 22, 2019 10:51:23   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
permafrost wrote:
FACT: We've never had a president disrespect the U.S. Constitution more than Donald Trump.

Tell Congress to impeach this criminal president here

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Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.' But it's part of the US Constitution.


For many, their problem is WITH the Constitution, since it has a habit of not saying what they want it to say, so someone willing to disregard it is fine with them.

Then - there are those who basically don't give a damn, and just want to see some s**t burn.

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Oct 22, 2019 11:19:47   #
Radiance3
 
permafrost wrote:
FACT: We've never had a president disrespect the U.S. Constitution more than Donald Trump.

Tell Congress to impeach this criminal president here

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Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.' But it's part of the US Constitution.

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You have nothing else to attack on him. What emolument clause are you talking about. That won't happen. The G7 summit will be at Camp David. He does not own that.

Even if held at the Miami resort to save hundreds of millions of dollars, you still would not like that. You prefer to spending billions of dollars like Obama whose 10-day vacation cost US taxpayers $2 billion in 2010. No one among you complained. Because no one among you pay taxes. But me and the rest of the Republicans do.

In appearance you want to pretend you pay taxes. It is my money and the rest of the Republicans. Not yours socialist-dem handouts.

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Oct 22, 2019 11:47:28   #
bahmer
 
padremike wrote:
FACT: you're wrong.

I understood that Trump said that the way the emolument clause was used against him was phony. My observation was that immediately upon suggesting his resort Progressives, like Barney Fife, pulled their single bullet out of their shirt pocket and started screaming "CITIZEN'S ARREST, CITIZEN'S ARREST."


Amen and Amen good one there Padre that sounds about right.

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Oct 22, 2019 11:51:17   #
Pariahjf
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You have nothing else to attack on him. What emolument clause are you talking about. That won't happen. The G7 summit will be at Camp David. He does not own that.

Even if held at the Miami resort to save hundreds of millions of dollars, you still would not like that. You prefer to spending billions of dollars like Obama whose 10-day vacation cost US taxpayers $2 billion in 2010. No one among you complained. Because no one among you pay taxes. But me and the rest of the Republicans do.

In appearance you want to pretend you pay taxes. It is my money and the rest of the Republicans. Not yours socialist-dem handouts.
================== br You have nothing else to att... (show quote)


Afraid I have to disagree with your taxes comment. As an Independent, I pay my share of taxes, and I am sure that there are plenty of Democrats that pay taxes as well.

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Oct 22, 2019 12:08:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
FACT: you're wrong.

I understood that Trump said that the way the emolument clause was used against him was phony. My observation was that immediately upon suggesting his resort Progressives, like Barney Fife, pulled their single bullet out of their shirt pocket and started screaming "CITIZEN'S ARREST, CITIZEN'S ARREST."



Padre, if this were a simple matter of the law as applied to all the rest of society, the orange one would have been locked up for many crimes long ago..

The founders put the emolument clause in for a reason..
It is not at all a joke or to be ignored... By anyone.. no matter how much money daddy left him..



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Oct 22, 2019 12:21:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You have nothing else to attack on him. What emolument clause are you talking about. That won't happen. The G7 summit will be at Camp David. He does not own that.

Even if held at the Miami resort to save hundreds of millions of dollars, you still would not like that. You prefer to spending billions of dollars like Obama whose 10-day vacation cost US taxpayers $2 billion in 2010. No one among you complained. Because no one among you pay taxes. But me and the rest of the Republicans do.

In appearance you want to pretend you pay taxes. It is my money and the rest of the Republicans. Not yours socialist-dem handouts.
================== br You have nothing else to att... (show quote)



deb, the emolument clause is real... it was put in by the founders to fight corruption..

see the Meme above your entry.. it is a good one..

Yes, trump gave it up and I agree with you that the G7 will be at camp david.

2 billions for that 10 day vacation?? that is another right wing lie that you will never let go of. it is not true..

Taxes???!!! I have and continue to pay a ton of taxes.. i do not like taxes, but I see it a duty which every patriotic american does to pay for the services our government provides.

Of course none of us benefits by every service provided, but they are part and parcel of what make our nation the great nation we live in..

None of us gets to pick and choose the services we want and none others we all pay for all services..

No other process would work for the nation.

And to point out again, trump was not trying to save money for the country, he was trying to put more of the taxpayers money into his own pocket.. the only value he sees in being president is to make more money.



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Oct 22, 2019 12:54:14   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
deb, the emolument clause is real... it was put in by the founders to fight corruption..

see the Meme above your entry.. it is a good one..

Yes, trump gave it up and I agree with you that the G7 will be at camp david.

2 billions for that 10 day vacation?? that is another right wing lie that you will never let go of. it is not true..

Taxes???!!! I have and continue to pay a ton of taxes.. i do not like taxes, but I see it a duty which every patriotic american does to pay for the services our government provides.

Of course none of us benefits by every service provided, but they are part and parcel of what make our nation the great nation we live in..

None of us gets to pick and choose the services we want and none others we all pay for all services..

No other process would work for the nation.

And to point out again, trump was not trying to save money for the country, he was trying to put more of the taxpayers money into his own pocket.. the only value he sees in being president is to make more money.
deb, the emolument clause is real... it was put in... (show quote)


You're so quick to condemn Trump based on opinions that your mob creates almost daily. For example, "the only value he sees in being President is to make more money." What a cheap shot! We've heard that before from your talking heads. What does he need more money for? FYI Trump has brought in over $300 million for his 2020 campaign. That's more than any President ever and twice as much as Obama did running for his second term. Obviously there are a lot of Americans who reject the Progressive agenda and philosophy.

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Oct 22, 2019 13:11:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
You're so quick to condemn Trump based on opinions that your mob creates almost daily. For example, "the only value he sees in being President is to make more money." What a cheap shot! We've heard that before from your talking heads. What does he need more money for? FYI Trump has brought in over $300 million for his 2020 campaign. That's more than any President ever and twice as much as Obama did running for his second term. Obviously there are a lot of Americans who reject the Progressive agenda and philosophy.
You're so quick to condemn Trump based on opinions... (show quote)


It is not "need" it is "greed"....

that 300 million or what ever it is comes from the likes of the Koch family and the other super rich who have gotten the gift most wanted... a mountain of money.,,,, our money.. we will be paying for generations. or maybe the nation will simply collapse.. to nothing..


I have seen men destroyed by the “Me too” movement, yet we have a man who is openly a misogynist. Who brags about grabbing women with impunity, and has amassed over 25 sexual harassment allegations, and nothing is done. A man who has insinuated that he would like to date his own daughter.

Every one of his cabinet appointments has gone to individuals who stand to profit by their mismanagement of the Department they were selected to operate. He has pulled this country out of the Paris Accord that was attempting to make some progress over the deterioration of our climate. He ended the Iranian Nuclear Agreement. An agreement that was working. He has abandoned our Middle East allies, the Kurds, to wh**ever fate the Turks decide is appropriate.

He has taken credit for an economy that had low unemployment and steady growth in its financial markets. It was not his policies that initiated that growth. He is a master at usurping credit from those who actually deserve it. He attempted to coerce the leader of Japan to nominate him for the Nobel Peace prize, and he even inquired about whether or not he could award himself the Congressional Medal of Honor. (I know some say he was joking, but as a former Marine officer, that is not something we joke about.)

He has emboldened white nationalists sentiments in this country. He has insulted almost every institution this country has to maintain peace and order both domestically and internationally. He has questioned the veracity of the FBI. He has accepted foreign assessments over U.S. Intelligence agencies. He has alienated our historic allies in NATO. He has negotiated in private with what many consider to be our most dangerous adversaries. He has openly personally profited from his position as President and allowed his family members to do likewise.

He has stripped over 13 million Americans of their health insurance. He has imprisoned prekindergarten children in cages more suitable for animals. He has openly ordered his supporters to commit contempt of Congress violations by ordering them to defy legal subpoenas.

He is the only President to refuse to make public his tax returns. His vocabulary and speech patterns are horrendous. His constant insults directed towards anyone he views as an adversary is reminiscent of a schoolyard taunt at an elementary school. His constant attacks on the media are beyond tiresome. It is simply amazing that the idea of “f**e news” never gained traction under any other politician. They must all have been waiting for Donald Trump. Even Fox is not immune from his ire.

He brags about his acumen as a businessman, but any indepth examination of his financial dealings leads to serious questions about his actual wealth. There is a reason why no U.S. banks will do business with any Trump enterprise. Trump has admitted to filing bankruptcy 5 times and declaring over a billion dollar loss on his taxes.

I am so tired of constantly turning on the TV to learn about what new indiscretion that this man has managed to commit. I am totally bewildered as to how or why he has a base that willingly stands behind him and defends his t***sgressions. His Trump University, his sale of steaks on the internet, his failure to pay hardworking subcontractors, his scheme to sell Trump ties (made in China), are all attempts to rip off uninformed consumers of their hard earned money.

I have now watched a litany of retired military officers begin to sound the alarm about this charlatan. They are a bipartisan group. They include Gen. Mattis, Gen. Kelly, Adm. McRaven, and Gen. Colin Powell. You would think that even the most entrenched conservatives would pay attention to these decorated heroes, but you would be wrong.

I do not know what it is going to take for Americans to realize that we have a Manchurian candidate occupying the White House. I get it that many disliked the fact that Mr. Obama was a black man occupying the White House, and that your lily white sentiments were offended. But to endorse unquestionably a person who very likely might be colluding with Russian oligarchs and the Saudi Royal family is bordering on insanity.

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Oct 22, 2019 13:14:03   #
Pariahjf
 
permafrost wrote:
It is not "need" it is "greed"....

that 300 million or what ever it is comes from the likes of the Koch family and the other super rich who have gotten the gift most wanted... a mountain of money.,,,, our money.. we will be paying for generations. or maybe the nation will simply collapse.. to nothing..


I have seen men destroyed by the “Me too” movement, yet we have a man who is openly a misogynist. Who brags about grabbing women with impunity, and has amassed over 25 sexual harassment allegations, and nothing is done. A man who has insinuated that he would like to date his own daughter.

Every one of his cabinet appointments has gone to individuals who stand to profit by their mismanagement of the Department they were selected to operate. He has pulled this country out of the Paris Accord that was attempting to make some progress over the deterioration of our climate. He ended the Iranian Nuclear Agreement. An agreement that was working. He has abandoned our Middle East allies, the Kurds, to wh**ever fate the Turks decide is appropriate.

He has taken credit for an economy that had low unemployment and steady growth in its financial markets. It was not his policies that initiated that growth. He is a master at usurping credit from those who actually deserve it. He attempted to coerce the leader of Japan to nominate him for the Nobel Peace prize, and he even inquired about whether or not he could award himself the Congressional Medal of Honor. (I know some say he was joking, but as a former Marine officer, that is not something we joke about.)

He has emboldened white nationalists sentiments in this country. He has insulted almost every institution this country has to maintain peace and order both domestically and internationally. He has questioned the veracity of the FBI. He has accepted foreign assessments over U.S. Intelligence agencies. He has alienated our historic allies in NATO. He has negotiated in private with what many consider to be our most dangerous adversaries. He has openly personally profited from his position as President and allowed his family members to do likewise.

He has stripped over 13 million Americans of their health insurance. He has imprisoned prekindergarten children in cages more suitable for animals. He has openly ordered his supporters to commit contempt of Congress violations by ordering them to defy legal subpoenas.

He is the only President to refuse to make public his tax returns. His vocabulary and speech patterns are horrendous. His constant insults directed towards anyone he views as an adversary is reminiscent of a schoolyard taunt at an elementary school. His constant attacks on the media are beyond tiresome. It is simply amazing that the idea of “f**e news” never gained traction under any other politician. They must all have been waiting for Donald Trump. Even Fox is not immune from his ire.

He brags about his acumen as a businessman, but any indepth examination of his financial dealings leads to serious questions about his actual wealth. There is a reason why no U.S. banks will do business with any Trump enterprise. Trump has admitted to filing bankruptcy 5 times and declaring over a billion dollar loss on his taxes.

I am so tired of constantly turning on the TV to learn about what new indiscretion that this man has managed to commit. I am totally bewildered as to how or why he has a base that willingly stands behind him and defends his t***sgressions. His Trump University, his sale of steaks on the internet, his failure to pay hardworking subcontractors, his scheme to sell Trump ties (made in China), are all attempts to rip off uninformed consumers of their hard earned money.

I have now watched a litany of retired military officers begin to sound the alarm about this charlatan. They are a bipartisan group. They include Gen. Mattis, Gen. Kelly, Adm. McRaven, and Gen. Colin Powell. You would think that even the most entrenched conservatives would pay attention to these decorated heroes, but you would be wrong.

I do not know what it is going to take for Americans to realize that we have a Manchurian candidate occupying the White House. I get it that many disliked the fact that Mr. Obama was a black man occupying the White House, and that your lily white sentiments were offended. But to endorse unquestionably a person who very likely might be colluding with Russian oligarchs and the Saudi Royal family is bordering on insanity.
It is not "need" it is "greed"... (show quote)


Well said....

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Oct 22, 2019 13:52:47   #
Radiance3
 
Pariahjf wrote:
Afraid I have to disagree with your taxes comment. As an Independent, I pay my share of taxes, and I am sure that there are plenty of Democrats that pay taxes as well.

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80% of democrats socialists are handouts.
Check their rallies. Mostly A****AS, I*****L A***NS, B*M, MSGANG13. Not one among these groups pay taxes. They are hoodlums, and criminals.

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Oct 22, 2019 14:13:31   #
Pariahjf
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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80% of democrats socialists are handouts.
Check their rallies. Mostly A****AS, I*****L A***NS, B*M, MSGANG13. Not one among these groups pay taxes. They are hoodlums, and criminals.


Give us the breakdowns on the groups then.

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Oct 22, 2019 14:21:21   #
Kevyn
 
padremike wrote:
You're so quick to condemn Trump based on opinions that your mob creates almost daily. For example, "the only value he sees in being President is to make more money." What a cheap shot! We've heard that before from your talking heads. What does he need more money for? FYI Trump has brought in over $300 million for his 2020 campaign. That's more than any President ever and twice as much as Obama did running for his second term. Obviously there are a lot of Americans who reject the Progressive agenda and philosophy.
You're so quick to condemn Trump based on opinions... (show quote)


He needs more money for the same reason a junkie needs more dope and a drunk needs more booze. His disease is pure greed.

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