Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

Interesting article in the local Newspaper highlighted the problems that we are facing in dealing with the homeless.

Before, when a homeless camp became too troublesome, the local authorities would break up the encampment. That policy has changed since;

"Authorities are now required to offer a shelter bed to each homeless person and storage for personal belongings before clearing a camp within city limits.

That legal curb stems from a closely watched September 2018 federal appeals court ruling, which deemed Boise, Idaho’s anti-camping rule in violation of the Eighth Amendment’s protection against cruel and unusual punishment. Boise has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to weigh in, and a final decision from the nation’s high court could redefine the legal landscape of homeless camping across the nation.

In the meantime, Santa Rosa and Sonoma County have agreed to abide by a key part of the Boise ruling: Homeless people within city limits can’t be rousted by city police officers or county park rangers for camping illegally unless they’re first offered a bed and storage for their personal belongings."

Wow, no more rousting the squatters and cleaning up after them.

Here's is a video taken by a young family that use to use this bike trail to ride the seven miles to the next little town to visit their favorite Ice Cream Parlor. A biking trip the children use to really enjoy on a nice Saturday afternoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVajMlYPCmw&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2t2dSwur8DW5_-PUqT6pT_49p7DI8vVp3_zxqtPFYAhqpfJVd4xTYiaY4

The problems we see in the large city are the same problems that small towns and cities are experiencing all over our Country since the "September 2018 federal appeals court ruling, which deemed Boise, Idaho’s anti-camping rule in violation of the Eighth Amendment’s protection against cruel and unusual punishment."

rumitoid

What do you suggest to do about the homeless? Make sure they don't get in the way of well-to-do families getting ice cream?

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

No, keep letting them live in filth, and crime while the Dims seem to put C*****e-C****e above the Homeless well being.

Rather than free tuition for i******s, why not try and start funding housing for the homeless. In California, Reagan as Governor closed all the State Hospitals that use to house people that couldn't make it on their own. In times of emergencies, FEMA houses hundreds of thousands of displaced people. Dealing with the homeless , I guess it just isn't high enough on politicians mind.

Your dig about Well-to-do families shows your ignorance. We all have used that Bike trail, young and old, rich and poor. This Homeless problem effects everyone and all you do is complain without offering any helpful thought... I think your Rumitoid (sic) has caused swelling, pain, stiffness, and loss of function in your brain.

rumitoid

You are right. My dig was unfair. It is an issue that needs dedicated attention by lawmakers of every persuasion and some solutions. It is dire.

I ran an Emergency Homeless Shelter for a few years; it was funded by the Lutheran Church. We provided one night's food and shelter, and in the morning ten dollars in gas. (This was 2000.) But all had to be cleared at the local police station to stay. No i*****l i*******ts or criminals. Maybe a third that showed up at the door of the Samaritan House for help left without help seemingly because of the need to register with law enforcement. Another third was simply down on their luck and looking to get somewhere to start over. And the final third, though it may be less than that, were people who liked the lifestyle. Many saw it as freedom. I had more than a few tell me that I was in bondage to the system.

We can't cure homelessness. But we can make an effort to identify and aid struggling families and individuals that simply need a leg up and not a life of assistance. All programs need a definite expiration date. They also need a flexible work/training program. Mental Health workers need to meet with all applicants. Life Planners to help them see problems, solutions, and opportunities, helping them get wh**ever paperwork they need, such as birth certificates and licenses and SSI, to function on their own.

Smedley_buzkill

But Democrats are too busy pandering to wetbacks.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Well said...

But I second Smedley

rumitoid

Wetbacks? Really? You agree with that derogatory term?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I have no problem with it...

But I have never taken issue with derogatory terms as long as they are aptly applied...

It might surprise you, but the term Canuck was originally considered derogatory...

Seth

No, you're right. Some cross the border by truck -- these are "Dry Backs."

Seth

I third him.

Seth

The Democrats never, ever solve problems, they use them as campaign fodder, like they've been doing to their black constituency for just over a half century, while in reality they could care less about the suffering of those whom they "champion."

As in the case of Marxists, the common man and woman are simply meat to be used as needed.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Don't forget "gravel bellies"

Seth

Them, too.

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

The problem is not I*****l A***ns (Which is now an illegal slur) but radical Judges legislating from their Bench.

It is now illegal to break-up Homeless Encampments unless the Municipality can offer them beds and secure places to keep their belongings.

Rumitoid (sic) is correct when he identifies s Classes of Homeless.

1st is those that have fallen on hard times and need a leg-up to get their live together. Those are the ones volunteering at the shelters, taking classes, working jobs and soon are able to enter back into the working Society.

2nd are those that are unable to manage their lives and require a place that can take care of them. Reagan as Governor in California in 1967signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act, which ended the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. . The Communities were suppose to take care of these Mental Patients, now in their streets. These people need help.

3rd, is we have those that are troubled by drug addiction, alcoholism, and/or no restraints on their lifestyle. These are the ones that need supervision the most.

The longer encampments exist is one area, the worse they get with. Human garbage, Excrement, and a magnet to grow bigger and bigger. That is the problem that Las Angeles and other big cities are experiencing. This is the problem that are communities are having now.

Maybe it's time for the Federal Government to get involved with Legislation that allows them to clean up these messes and provide Clean, Safe, Settlements for these people in need. Separate these three kinds of Homeless and give them the necessary distinct kind of help they need?

Yes, that means that some of them might be held against their will for the safety of them and others.

Time we put the needs of our citizens in front of all the i*****l a***ns flooding into our country and using our Humanitarian and Social Funding.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Seconded